Guy Mancuso
Administrator, Instructor
Victor as my base sharpening with my P25 plus in C1 is 200 amount .3 for radius and 1 for threshold. Try it to see how you like it. But evaluate it in Cs3
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gogopix
Subscriber
Guy
Thx for response
I am sure this old dog needs to open his eyes a bit more
Anyway, looks like the processing defaults make a fine improvement in image, but some of the workflow details are bizzare
Why the hell are there so may files sprinkled around? With 3.x i had a develops file
now I have crap (sorry) FILES with Capture One, Cache, this, and that ALL OVER!
the user shouldnt have to worry or wonder where his filesw are and these others just get in the way. What are they for, Lance??
Anyway, from a workfloew point of view, one wants to select changes, and the select for batch processing. In 3.x a DEVELOPS file was set up if you said to put with the source image
now you have to create or C1 creates something I dont want or it buries it in thenDOc&SETTINg>Programfiles>PhaseOne>CaptureONe>Image>Cache> credit...borring..secret...
Sorry got carried away again LOL but you get the point
CAN WE SIMPLIFY THE STORAGE OF PROCESSED FILES
and Yes I am yelling, because they are in Europe and won't hear unless I yell
:angel:
regards
Victor
Thx for response
I am sure this old dog needs to open his eyes a bit more
Anyway, looks like the processing defaults make a fine improvement in image, but some of the workflow details are bizzare
Why the hell are there so may files sprinkled around? With 3.x i had a develops file
now I have crap (sorry) FILES with Capture One, Cache, this, and that ALL OVER!
the user shouldnt have to worry or wonder where his filesw are and these others just get in the way. What are they for, Lance??
Anyway, from a workfloew point of view, one wants to select changes, and the select for batch processing. In 3.x a DEVELOPS file was set up if you said to put with the source image
now you have to create or C1 creates something I dont want or it buries it in thenDOc&SETTINg>Programfiles>PhaseOne>CaptureONe>Image>Cache> credit...borring..secret...
Sorry got carried away again LOL but you get the point
CAN WE SIMPLIFY THE STORAGE OF PROCESSED FILES
and Yes I am yelling, because they are in Europe and won't hear unless I yell
:angel:
regards
Victor
Guy Mancuso
Administrator, Instructor
Tethered works too
Phase P25 plus and Phase body works fine with a 3 second from shot to preview. A little faster than before. Just a quick test but it seems to work with no issues at all. I am on 10.5 Leopard
Make that 2.5 seconds
Victor when Doug comes on he can explain that one
Phase P25 plus and Phase body works fine with a 3 second from shot to preview. A little faster than before. Just a quick test but it seems to work with no issues at all. I am on 10.5 Leopard
Make that 2.5 seconds
Victor when Doug comes on he can explain that one
I use 98, .04, and 2.
Uh, how much simpler do you want it??? All you need to do is select the output folder -- or any other location on your computer you want -- and can even have multiple versions of a single file and different output locations for those different versions of a single image by using "recipes".
,dougpeterson
Workshop Member
Whether it is possible or not... I recommend you completely trash/remove 4.1.2 prior to installing 4.5.
Doug Peterson, Head of Technical Services
Capture Integration, Phase One Dealer
Personal Portfolio
dougpeterson
Workshop Member
Victor,
Normally you start a session and it creates a folder for raws (default name of "Capture") and a folder for processed images (default name of "Output"). When you select a raw and push process it gets processed to the "Output" folder. If you want to BATCH process select more than one image and hold shift when you push "process".
You could manually create a subfolder in your captures folder for your output (then right click and "Set as Output Folder") but the way it organizes by default makes a lot of workflow sense to me. I don't like deep-nesting of folders.
I have a feeling you maybe are not using the process feature the way it is normally used. Why don't you give me a call if you're still confused and we'll figure it out together.
Doug Peterson, Head of Technical Services
Capture Integration, Phase One Dealer
Personal Portfolio
Normally you start a session and it creates a folder for raws (default name of "Capture") and a folder for processed images (default name of "Output"). When you select a raw and push process it gets processed to the "Output" folder. If you want to BATCH process select more than one image and hold shift when you push "process".
You could manually create a subfolder in your captures folder for your output (then right click and "Set as Output Folder") but the way it organizes by default makes a lot of workflow sense to me. I don't like deep-nesting of folders.
I have a feeling you maybe are not using the process feature the way it is normally used. Why don't you give me a call if you're still confused and we'll figure it out together.
Doug Peterson, Head of Technical Services
Capture Integration, Phase One Dealer
Personal Portfolio
Guy Mancuso
Administrator, Instructor
Thanks Doug . Care to explain the skin tones control also. Lot's of questions today
dougpeterson
Workshop Member
Easiest way to explain quickly is to correct the naming: it is not a "Skin Tone Corrector" it is a "Particular Color Identifier". It adjusts WB and Tint so that the thing you click becomes the color you want. It is identical to the WB tool except that instead of it assuming you want the thing you click to be pure gray you can tell it what you want the color to be of the thing you click.
The default suggestion is to use it to identify skin tones, but may be best used to keep consistency on a product or item of clothing. So if you're selling jeans then you can shoot the jeans in a controlled studio strobe with a gray card and save that color. Then go anywhere in any lighting situation with that pair of jeans, and just tell C1 (using the "skin tone tool") what is jean-blue and it will balance the image to make it right.
Much much more to come in the days ahead. Please post any and all questions, just have a little bit of patience as we try to get to everyone.
Doug Peterson, Head of Technical Services
Capture Integration, Phase One Dealer
Personal Portfolio
The default suggestion is to use it to identify skin tones, but may be best used to keep consistency on a product or item of clothing. So if you're selling jeans then you can shoot the jeans in a controlled studio strobe with a gray card and save that color. Then go anywhere in any lighting situation with that pair of jeans, and just tell C1 (using the "skin tone tool") what is jean-blue and it will balance the image to make it right.
Much much more to come in the days ahead. Please post any and all questions, just have a little bit of patience as we try to get to everyone.
Doug Peterson, Head of Technical Services
Capture Integration, Phase One Dealer
Personal Portfolio
woodyspedden
New member
The first two definitely look oversharpened to me. V4.5 to my eyes is by far the best. Since I am a Hassy shooter I don't use C1 for raw conversion (although I love it for M8 images). However the main reason for me to use Phocus is to get the Digital Adjustment Corrections (DAC). Beyond that the two converters both appear to do a good job. Phocus is feature shy compared to C4.5 Pro but I expect most of those features will be added in version 1.1. We'll see.
Woody
Woody
gogopix
Subscriber
How much simpler?Uh, how much simpler do you want it??? All you need to do is select the output folder -- or any other location on your computer you want -- and can even have multiple versions of a single file and different output locations for those different versions of a single image by using "recipes".
What is in 3.x.
You check a box that says; "process to same folder as source"
C1 then creates a foldeer called 'Develops" in the folder with the raw. Keeps everything together
nothing new needs be created
now we will have to go out, find the folder (that may be 5 levels deep in a master storage disk, as I use), create a folder, then go back mout and select it.
for every raw folder you will need to do this. Remember, files of 45+ ate 250MB. I break into 100 image folders, otherwise there are big cache and handling issues everytime you opens eg PS Bridge.
It should be simple enough to bring back
I've been doing this for years, since before Phase even HAD a portable back.
Victor
gogopix
Subscriber
Thanks doug I may take you p on it.
BTW, I almost NEVER use capture; I use portable so I have CF's with folders that I put into shoot folder to archive.
I then prune in C1, as well as develop. (why develop trashed files, though I actual archive all)
the culled folder is then my folder of record. I process using the setting that creates a "DEVELOPS" folder in the raw; all nicely together.
If I make jpgs, then I can sort on type and take from develops into a folder by subject.
When improved (exp/WB etc), I have all my raw, in the state I want, and I just hit the first icon in the process window;
all the selected files are then processed, I can see them in a list, I can see 100% completion , and I DO NOT have to do a damn thing more 3.7.x creates the DEVELOPS folder and even watches for duplicates, creating a version. It even default names for me so it is easy to search (though I use Bridge keywords and ACDSEE to view)
I am sure many people have many workflows, but why this convenient feature was removed eludes me.
(and please don't say I have to create some damn 'recipe' or something)
Victor
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Shelby Lewis
Guest
For wedding shooters, this tool might be the best thing since sliced bread. In some mixed lighting shots,when ALL you dream about is for the skin tones to be natural, this could be VERY handy. Pick a skin tone from a "good" lighting situation and apply it in the mixed lighting shot. I've been dreaming about a similar tool in ps for a while.
Too bad Pro runs so SLOW on my dual g5.
Bummer.
Basically have to work in sessions now, even if it is the default one. - Doug gave me a tip on creating a smart folder, putting it on the desktop, and then using the spotlight tool in the smart folder to create a search for ".col45" files, which are all your sessions. That way you are not looking constantly for your sessions or resorting to the limited "open recents".
I passed on to Doug today, my first big complaint on something that I was waiting for in this release but is not here yet. I really want the old ability for 3.7.9 to set a default profile to use based on my camera. I get tired of changing Leica M8 to the UV/IR profile and the P30+ from flash to outdoor. It was promised, so hopefully it will be coming soon.
Ray
I passed on to Doug today, my first big complaint on something that I was waiting for in this release but is not here yet. I really want the old ability for 3.7.9 to set a default profile to use based on my camera. I get tired of changing Leica M8 to the UV/IR profile and the P30+ from flash to outdoor. It was promised, so hopefully it will be coming soon.
Ray
One Problem
I have 4.5 installed
Windows XP, Service Pack 2 (I know it requires Service Pack 3)
All works fine EXCEPT there is no Histogram. I have the Histogram Window/Tab but there is no data/graphic.
I uninstalled previous version of 4 before installing 4.5.
Any Suggestions?
I have 4.5 installed
Windows XP, Service Pack 2 (I know it requires Service Pack 3)
All works fine EXCEPT there is no Histogram. I have the Histogram Window/Tab but there is no data/graphic.
I uninstalled previous version of 4 before installing 4.5.
Any Suggestions?
C
carbonmetrictree
Guest
The selective color adjustments are pretty important in my workflow, I'm very impressed with the smoothness slider for each color. I'm glad they included this as well, I will never use the skin tone adjustments since I do not photograph people.
Dale Allyn
New member
Hi Ray,
Are you saying that we still must change the default profile to Daylight (or a custom profile) from Flash? Ugh. I was of the understanding that that was to be available in 4.5. How about default color temp? Can one set a default to 5500 K, for example?
Sorry for the simple questions, but I'm presently overseas and likely will not download the app until I return. And I must decide if I'll upgrade my Mac at this time to better accommodate 4.5. (Maybe the processing "recipes" Jack mentioned will solve these setting issues.) For me, the workflow for processing just a couple of hundred image files shot in different settings (landscape type stuff) has been brutal with v4.1 compared with using Bridge/ACR for my small format work – let alone the number of files that come from a week-long (or longer) trip. Hopefully v4.5 has useful control over presets available.
Cheers,
Dale
Guy Mancuso
Administrator, Instructor
Okay watch this test. This is with my Mamiya 35mm lens with lens corrections on for the full image. CA, Purple fringing, CORNER SHARPNESS
1st image image bottom right corner Corner sharpness off
2nd image Corner sharpness ON. This is at default and i can go a little more if i want but it does sharpen my corners on the 35mm lens
3rd Image Full Frame corrections on
1st image image bottom right corner Corner sharpness off
2nd image Corner sharpness ON. This is at default and i can go a little more if i want but it does sharpen my corners on the 35mm lens
3rd Image Full Frame corrections on