Paul Spinnler
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Hassy ist just an epic fail now.
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The same is true for the HCD 28mm lens. That lens now works on the Hasselblad H4X with third party backs, but with a crop factor if the back is full frame. I would assume the same will be true for the 24mm lens. The HCD 28mm and 35mm-90mm zoom were released before full frame digital backs came out. I would have thought that Hasselblad would stop designing new lenses that are not full frame.Has anyone seen the specs on the new Hasselblad 24mm?
I just had a look at the spec sheet and it says that it still does not cover full format and is designed for digital format only which is 37x49mm. Also only works on H2D,H3D,H4D cameras only.
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I have no disagreement with most of which you say ... However, unlike many other's way of thinking ... I've been on record that Hasselblad need not have done a new ground-up platform ... just make the one they have better ... not somewhat better like the H5D, a lot better!Now that the dust has settled, it really saddens me to see Hasselblad reach a new low. The Lunar camera(s) really look horrendous! I caught a bunch of crap in this and another thread about how I anticipated Hasselblad didn't have the money, time or knowledge to create a new camera system from scratch, and it looks like I was correct with my statements about how I thought they would have to partner up to bring something 'new' to market. Well, a NEX-7 that has been overstylized with leather, carbon fiber and gaudy looking wood is certainly more than I was anticipating. YUCK. Super YUCK. I guess the Russians and Chinese will enjoy the products, because I don't know of a single person who would buy such ugly and overpriced equipment.
You're just taking that attitude because you haven't seen the Stainless Ferrari version yet.Now that the dust has settled, it really saddens me to see Hasselblad reach a new low. The Lunar camera(s) really look horrendous! I caught a bunch of crap in this and another thread about how I anticipated Hasselblad didn't have the money, time or knowledge to create a new camera system from scratch, and it looks like I was correct with my statements about how I thought they would have to partner up to bring something 'new' to market. Well, a NEX-7 that has been overstylized with leather, carbon fiber and gaudy looking wood is certainly more than I was anticipating. YUCK. Super YUCK. I guess the Russians and Chinese will enjoy the products, because I don't know of a single person who would buy such ugly and overpriced equipment.
Hi Marc,now I know what that looks like because I use that HC100/2.2 lens, and others, on my dual shutter Leica S2. :thumbs:
Joris,Hi Marc,
How is that working out for you so far, using the H lenses on the S2?
Thanks, Joris.
That is because your criticism is NOT exactly true.I would feel better if Hasselblad announced digital XPAN instead of alien NEX7. I wonder do they know where their customers are?
I hoped that the new Hasselblad management could do better than Shriro, but I think they are no better. I not against Hasselblad by posting in this forum, instead, I am so sad to see once my favorite camera producer vanishing.
Some people think that my previous criticism is not true, and Hasselblad do provide support for V lens users by providing converter to let user mounting their lens on H camera. However, for the price they charge, I really not expect that I need to operate my camera this way, it is no difference than I mount my V lens in a Canon. Besides, I have no idea why they require to change the magazine mount. I have a CFV39 and I can only mount it on V camera, I need to buy another back and camera if I really need to use auto camera. Are they try to force customer to pay more for something that nearly unnecessary. Hasselblad 200 series is so genius and let us use both V/F lens in their native mode, they have the capability to produce another modern camera function like 200 series. For uncountable number of customers still keep their beloved V lens, they are begging Hasselblad to answer their call. I do not understand why Hasselblad neglecting them that and exploring very hard for new customers.
If they do not know how to manage their business, they can look at others, see what Leica or Nikon do. ( Lieca do answer R customers' call by providing DMR on M8/M9, and the new Leica M should answer the call of R users)
You obviously do not have contact with the buying public, especially the stupidly rich, the newly rich and bling cultural iconsAndy,
Don't get me wrong. My response to you was not meant to be an attack. I simply felt that NO one would find the Lunar attractive.
Greg
I was being facetious Greg.Marc,
As always, I respect your opinion. However, one can point to stupidity in any form. Hasselblad needs to sell these cameras in some sort of volume, and I do not think there are enough tasteless people to make this a "volume" item. Maybe they needed to price the Lunar at a million euros.
Greg
Marc, I'm not so sure your calculations would hold up especially considering their major partner in all this is Sony. As the camera is fundamentally a Sony using bog standard Zeiss (not HB branded) glass which is then re-packaged in a very expensive (materials wise) alluminium housing and using other exotic materials (unusual woods, carbon fibre, Dodo feet etc) 30% return seem way off IMO.However, if they sell a mere 5000 of these @ $6,500 not counting accessories, that generates $32,500,000 in revenue ... and I'd guess the profit margin to be obscene ... but even @ only 30% that would stuff $10 million into their bank account.
Well, you could very well be right. However, it is not unusual for "Luxury" items to have an outrageous mark-up, so 30% isn't much.Marc, I'm not so sure your calculations would hold up especially considering their major partner in all this is Sony. As the camera is fundamentally a Sony using bog standard Zeiss (not HB branded) glass which is then re-packaged in a very expensive (materials wise) alluminium housing and using other exotic materials (unusual woods, carbon fibre, Dodo feet etc) 30% return seem way off IMO.
Once Sony has taken its Lions share of the profit, Zeiss for the purchase of their lenses, the exotic endangered animals slayer from some developing country for the materials and they have paid all the R&D people for the special firmware that's being developed for the camera I imaging that 30% is much, much less. If you add to that the cost (as stated by HB and Sony) of developing a bigger range of cameras like this in the future HB need to sell way more than 5000 units to make any money for the future development of the beloved H series.
I can comment on it as a Russian/Australian living in Asia. It's not about taste. It's about totally different culture and traditions. What is just a lack of taste for Western people, for Chinese it is something meaningful. They admire different colors and different forms. Same for Russia which was isolated from Western Civilization in the past long ago as well as in the recent past, during USSR time. And don't forget that huge part of Russia lays in the AsiaAndy,
What makes you think the Chinese and Russians lack taste?
Greg