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    Quote Originally Posted by bensonga View Post
    I had to go back to May 2013 to find this thread.

    With the latest improvements in technology, perhaps "Fat Pixels" aren't so special anymore?

    I certainly don't shoot with the CFV-16II much now...not that I ever did.

    To my eyes, on my grungy laptop screen, your pic here has a fantastic impression of texture in the painted concrete...dare I say it...2 point something dimensional
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    Quote Originally Posted by fotografz View Post
    You guys need to grow a pair.

    Get in there and display your work on the fun with MFD ... it barks with all the big dogs, and then some.

    IMO, there is NO lowly MFD ... it is all good. Big is good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jotloob View Post
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    I feel very much the same here . And I work with a CFV-39 and CFV-50 (only) . I feel a "kind of ignorance" for some brands here in this forum resulting in a somewhat low esteem , although absolutely undeserved .
    I noticed that also in other threads , for example in the µFT threads .
    It makes me kind of sad and I am sure it won't change , as it has been like that already for a long time .
    If it makes you feel better - I even post images from a "crop" Leica S with "just" 36MP in the MF thread.

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    Here's one from my DM22 in 2012.
    Cambo WRS, SK35XL. Four images stitched and cropped a bit.

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    Max,

    I definitely think that the graphical arrangement and colour/texture contrast of the earlier version is a much stronger image. The very bold lines of the background with the blending of the dress combined with the pop of the face / lips / blouse against the striped background work very well.

    Btw, try it with a crop vertically where the white background diagonal meets the right side too and see what you think.
    Hi Graham,

    haven't seen your reply till now. I'm glad you and others like that image. Though I admit, if I were shooting it today, I'd probably do it differently.


    Is this what you meant?

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    let's get this thread restarted. dust off your old digital backs and give them a go!

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    I am in a similar boat. Do you ever worry about that one day these older backs will mal function and there would be no way to fix them and all the residual value would be gone?

    I don't shoot with it much often now, but still love it. yet I don't want it to go dead on me...


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    Hi Jurgen. Good to hear from you. I hope all is well and that it is not too cold and snowy there in Germany this winter.

    I nearly sold my CFV to a close friend last year, but fortunately for me, he didn't have the funds readily available and I came to my senses pretty quickly. He has since moved on to higher resolution DSLRs and a Leica M9.

    Although I don't use the CFV much (the last time was in 2011), I've always hated the thought of parting with it. It's probably not worth much now anyways, so I might as well hold on to it.

    On the few times I have sold some of my camera gear, I've often regretted it later. In fact, the only photo gear I've sold that I didn't regret was my micro 4/3rds equipment.

    Do you still have the CFV-39....or was it a CFV-50?

    Happy holidays to you!

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    Re: fat pixel digital backs

    Quote Originally Posted by MaxKißler View Post
    Hi Graham,

    haven't seen your reply till now. I'm glad you and others like that image. Though I admit, if I were shooting it today, I'd probably do it differently.


    Is this what you meant?

    Attachment 79421


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    Could be cliche with the crop but it is what I would have done The uncropped version works too.
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    2 full samples of my Mamiya ZD
    A old big fat MF DSLR, with large butt pixeis sensor and skinny LCD !!!

    FULL SAMPLES:

    http://imageshack.us/a/img401/1156/w731.jpg

    http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/9572/12sx.jpg

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    Re: fat pixel digital backs

    Quote Originally Posted by mmbma View Post
    I am in a similar boat. Do you ever worry about that one day these older backs will mal function and there would be no way to fix them and all the residual value would be gone?

    I don't shoot with it much often now, but still love it. yet I don't want it to go dead on me...
    Yes, I do worry a little about getting it fixed if something were to go wrong, especially with the direction Hasselblad has been taking lately. Nothing much I can do about it I guess, since I don't want to sell it. I'm not too concerned about losing it's residual value. I feel that all of my gear is a "sunk cost" and will just continue depreciating with time, so at this point, if the CFV-16II was completely inoperable, I'd only be out $3-$4k.

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    Planar 3.5/100mm (V), P25, iso400 handheld in museum, no flash
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    Re: fat pixel digital backs

    Mamiya 645AFD, 150mm AF and P25 back.




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    Hasselblad 500C/M Anniversary + 80mm CF + CFV16
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    Re: fat pixel digital backs

    I wish i could get a Good used CFV-16 because I regret that I gave mine away .
    Your image shows two stores of interest .
    Cameras and modeltrains .
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    Jürgen,
    It is interesting that you brought up the two stores of interest to you. Let me further elaborate on this tale of two stores:
    The original owner of Allied Model Train actually was the builder of the current Samy's Camera store. In fact he still owns the building. He gets double rental incomes, one from Samy's Camera and the other one for the cell tower. Allied Model Train was originally located in the building where the camera store is currently now. The Allied Model Train store you see in the photo is the new current location but it is no longer own by the original owner but is now belong to his former employee.

    As for the CFV16 digital backs, I actually like the skin tone on the CFV16 more than my P25+. I have 4 CFV16 and 2 P25+ digital backs. I guess I do like the fat pixel backs. I also once own the Sinar eMotion 54LV. The image below was taken with this back and the Hasselblad Superachromat 300mm F2.8 at F5.6.

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    Re: fat pixel digital backs

    Wonderful image!

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    Gary,
    I am glad you have one of the CFV16 digital back in fact your is the second version. Just don't forget to use it sometimes among all of your great photographic gears, which you have quite a collection.

    Thanks for the complement. This image has even more meaning when you use your very best gears along with all of your best photographic techniques to capture your most beloved figure, in this case it was my father.
    Best Regards,
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    here is a panorama I did today with my p25 mounted on a bronica p25, compressed abit for web


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    Studio work, using a mix of natural light and strobes. Phase One 645AF, P21+, Mamiya 80 mm D, f/4.5, ISO 100....

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    I love my H25...still!



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    My CFV16 + 503CWD + 80mm CFE

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    Aaron and Son --- two outstanding B&W images! I really like them both.

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    Thank you Gary! Again same setup.

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    Re: fat pixel digital backs

    Well, i just don't think much about MF anymore, i know i can post photos from my DMF on here and another main one, but i feel here it is more about posting photos than talking about how great is new technology and designs and high mp of those new Phase One MF, so here i may get more attention to my photos than there, having older technology gear will not make bad photographer than someone who has latest newest many gear, it is at the end issue of budget, sure one day if i will have that kind of money then i will go with latest high quality mp gear as well, but for now i feel more appreciated and same boat level here than there with guys having 2-4 DBS and tech cams and dunno how many glasses.

    I will dig my MF photos and hope i can post something here to share and have fun talking here, i prefer to discuss photos from old gear than posting photos then talking how great this feature or that design or this new sensor....etc.
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    First try my beloved Hassy T* Biogon 38mm/4.5 , with Phaseone P25+
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    you guys are getting me all worked up again. here is an oldie from the rollei 6008 with phase p20:
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    another:
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    Ironically, I happen to be looking for a Rollei db20p for my 6008 I2 !! If anyone still has one they want to sell contact me.
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    another, with gcc blade, bandon OR
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    I wanted to put it in the b&w-thread; for my luck I had seen the "only monochrom/Archromatic"-hint in time.

    So now here.




    And no fear: the grain comes not from the P20 - it's a tribute to my kind of working on the file. This is nearly the original:

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    Although I'm always happy with the P20 on the Hasselblad V I have inclination to try a H. The H3D39 is very affordable now but what will I gain?
    Best tip for a P20 in a V - buy a Hartblei finder makes the crop a full frame view and a real pleasure to use. (No commercial connection) HARTBLEI HASSELBLAD MAGNIFYING HOOD FINDER 52 x 52 - Magnifying Hoods - Hartblei



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    I just can't get enough of my H25.

    Maybe ill pick up a P25 one of these days.


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    Toyo 45G + 90 SW f8 + P25+
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    Seaweed tires....

    My beloved SWCM with P25+


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    here is my brother's favorite Hasselblad 903SWC and the Phase One P25+ combo. The Phase One digital back work really well on the 903SWC camera since it does not require the L bracket for the battery which is required with the CFV digital backs. The image itself was taken with the Phase One P25+ on the Mamiya 645 AFD and the 55-110mm lens.
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    One relaxing Easter holiday with friends in Lamma Island :-)




    Classic Hassy 38/4.5 T* Biogon with P25+
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    Pittsburgh nighttime panorama, taken on a cold February evening. P21+, Mamiya 150 mm lens, around 15 second exposure @ f/6.3, 100 ISO, 4 image stitch.

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    stunning. i'm buying a fat back pixel back to help keep this thread alive

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    Does the Aptus 22 count as a fat pixel back? I know it is the same pixel pitch as the Kodak-based 9 micron sensors, but I've found comments elsewhere that the Dalsa-based 9 micron backs lack the "fat pixel magic" that the Kodak ones have. I realize that the "magic" is subjective, but has anyone else had experience with both Kodak and Dalsa 22MP backs?

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    First tests of the 503CXi & CFV-16. Loving the subtle colours from this back out of camera via Phocus and even ACR.

    Hasselblad CFV-16, 503CXi, 150 CFi (cropped)
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    Wonderful subtle colors Graham, Columbia River Gorge - thanks again for alerting me to this great location.

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    Re: fat pixel digital backs

    Quote Originally Posted by med View Post
    Does the Aptus 22 count as a fat pixel back? I know it is the same pixel pitch as the Kodak-based 9 micron sensors, but I've found comments elsewhere that the Dalsa-based 9 micron backs lack the "fat pixel magic" that the Kodak ones have. I realize that the "magic" is subjective, but has anyone else had experience with both Kodak and Dalsa 22MP backs?
    Pretty sure that it counts. I'd say 7u and above pretty much define fat pixels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrahamWelland View Post
    Pretty sure that it counts. I'd say 7u and above pretty much define fat pixels.
    I have no experience with Kodak sensor backs, but the files from the Aptus 22 are pretty awesome. I can't wait to get my hands on the back and start contributing to this thread!

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    with the prices of the older backs plummeting, it's never been a better time to get in!

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    Not great art but I'm still impressed with the colour from Hasselblad CFV-16 straight from the camera via ACR. This is default from back with just levels adjustment. No colour adjustments at all.

    503 CXi, CFV-16, 40/4C 4 image focus stack
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrahamWelland View Post
    Not great art but I'm still impressed with the colour from Hasselblad CFV-16 straight from the camera via ACR. This is default from back with just levels adjustment. No colour adjustments at all.

    503 CWD, CFV-16, 40/4C 4 image focus stack
    Very nice image Graham. I was at the Vista House on Saturday. We drove both the east and west sections of Highway 30. The Columbia River Gorge is one of my favorite places. One of these days, I'll have to get serious and spend more time there with a camera.

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    I just myself a P25+ and loving every second of it. Fat pixels FTW.

    P25+ on a Hasselblad 50mm CFi handheld on f/4.
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    Re: fat pixel digital backs

    I love this thread. I don't like to see it going down on my screen. So here is my contribution with my still shooting P25+ :



    A big swell striked on Reunion Island.
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