I bet Ken or Don have one before Guy
I bet Ken or Don have one before Guy
What is the built-in accelerometer for?
"What is the built-in accelerometer for?"
It activates the airbag when it detects sudden deceleration.
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Just put in my order for the 280. I know that 260 will be hot in demand but the trade in deal makes Iq280 a better deal if you already own a P65+, a lot better
Thanks for both the humorous and the serious response regarding the accelerometer. A small automatically deployed airbag may not be a bad idea to protect the back from tripod accidents - see recent video posted here a week ago.
Image Quality : 16 bit-Opticolor, 12.5 f-stops, Lens+ technology
Lens+ technology ?
WOW. That was quick. It seemed like yesterday when we were saying you were dead and had no more advances to the backs.
to satisfy a tech curiosity, what is the strategy behind boosting the base iso from 50 to 140 as part of exposing longer than 2 min? you get a 1-1/2 stop more from the iso change and can use the extra time, another 6 or seven stops, gaining about 8-9 stops EV just from using long exposure mode
Doug, any chance the tech in the 260 sensor can/may/will be extended to the 280 or Achro backs? If you need to kill me if you tell me, I can wait (kids are still young)
Frankly the 260 is the back. I would look no further myself
So, lets see. A color 60MP back costs $30,000. So the monochrome back only costs $10,000 because it is missing two of the colors! Where do I sign up?
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Wow - Two questions.
One-- the Wifi am I correct in thinking that you could be on the beach with just your tech camera, and an iPad and get live view and review directly on the ipad. That would make focusing so great, instead of just always figuring shooting at infinity. I like wide angle close up shots. You would now have a great view finder
Two any word on ISO improvement or live view along with increase in DR?
Couldn't the iPhone be mounted on your tech camera as well?
The word is "worthy."
If my assumption is correct and validated by the experts - I would think you could, but I bet ya - they come out with a mini ipad holder you can put in the hot shoe - similar to to iphone holder - maybe don't even need the wide angle lens for the holder like the iphone.
We know lots of guys have been hanging on to their P45+ backs waiting for a no-crop long-exposure back for a while, and I think subtle tonal differences between the IQ180 and 160 will be equalized or bettered by the 260...
...but, a bayer-less full-frame MFDB!!!! Yes, I wish they based it on the new 60MP sensor with the long exposure times (the IQ260 Achromat sounds like it is the same sensor as the P65+/IQ160), but surely there is nothing like it except the P45+ based Achromat+ which cost quite a penny as well.
I think my order is going in tomorrow although the wait may be long.
After I got out of Leica upon deciding that I'd rather give gobs of money to a company like Phase that at least are appreciative of receiving it vs. L that believe it is their god given right to take it from you, I was afraid every time I saw images out of the MM that I may have to swallow my pride and buy one and a couple of lenses, but hallelujah!! Here comes P1 to the rescue.
I cannot wait to try the new Rodies and Shneiders on this back. I suspect the resolution will be close to my 180 without the filter. BTW, I have never shot the Leica S, but even the best M glass that costs as much as the best tech lenses, and you wait months for, don't come close to what the newer Rodie and SK lenses offer, not by a long shot. I also much prefer the neutral, accurate and sharp images I get from them vs the super saturated, contrasty images that most called the "Leica look" -- sure to get challenged on this one, but heck, I had to get into a second bottle of Malbec to decide on the new purchase
I did not realize this announcement would come so soon, so I have a coastal optics 60mm along with a full-spectrum D800 coming in later this week. While this will be good for IR (B&W and false colour), I think the Achro back will be in a different league.
Not sure upgrading the IQ180 to the IQ280 would be a worthwhile for my work, the marginal DR would be nice, but WIFI and carrying around and iPad is not worth the coin.
Also, looking at how aggressively they have priced upgraded from the pre IQ series, someone has done some market analysis. It is unlikely that a current IQ user is going to switch, while someone sitting on a 4-6 year back, certainly needs some incentive. A used P65+ may have sold for 15K on a private sale, add 17.5 and for just over 32K you're back in with the best back in the business! This is certainly great play for Phase, and hats off to Phase for doing it!
I am exactly in this boat. It was almost a no brainer for me to upgrade the P65+ to the IQ280. Like you said the all in would be only 32k. If I didn't like the back I could sell it at above 32k for sure. The hard decision was whether to go for 260 or 280. My gut feeling tells me that the 260 will be much more in demand than the 280 but for 3.5k difference (and without the need for long expo), I opted for the elepant gun.
I am surprised that nobody feels cautious regarding implementation of wifi.
USB tethering is still not working after 2 years.
Even life view took a while to implement.
I wait and see if its actually working before an upgrade is in order .
I would also like to understand how they actually transfer such a large file to an iPad or will it be more like the Canon transmitters that keep the RAW on the card and transmit just a jpegs that's residing next to the jpeg.
That seems more doable in terms of transfer speeds.
Does anybody know how this is going to work.
One other issue for the 260 with long exposures will certainly be battery life especially if you have to shoot the black frame.
Will batteries last that long?
But certainly a welcome upgrade .
It would be pretty cool if the wifi could stream the image to an iPad in "chunks" the way pano viewers work. When you want to zoom in to the image, the back just updates the image on your device by sending a smaller crop out of the captured image, thus getting around the iDevice 14mp image size limit and letting you zoom to 100% or maybe even more.
If I knew that I could get live view quickly onto a mini iPad with 100% zoom I would be real interested in upgrading. But I sure would want to see it in action first!
I think it is exactly something along those lines...
Introducing the IQ2 series digital backs | Phase One - YouTube
I stand corrected.
If they're doing that live and on the fly (i.e. without a pre-generated image pyramid), that's extremely impressive.
(Having watched that video a little more carefully, they don't appear to be actually showing zooming in and out of the image there, just scrolling, so no pyramid of images being demonstrated, but that's not to say they haven't done it of course.)
It is a very exciting news.
I have few questions which somewhat duplicate the previous posts.
1. I am very interested in using this IQ2 back with the tech cam.
However, the 60-80mp-RAW files are quite big. Will there be any problems of file transfer in which can disrupt the workflow?
How long does it take to shoot one picture by a tech cam with the IQ280 or 260?
3. How can I supply 2 hours of battery (including black frame) to the DB for 1-hour exposure?
4. Is there a path of up (down) grading from IQ180 to IQ260?
I was going to sell my Ipad for the new USB 3 Window 8 tablet
I have IQ180 and will not be interested to upgrade, except when there is better improvement in PQ.
New multimedia features will not cut it and my client prefers to sit in front of 27" monitor to see the image.
No cables into the digital back required.
Of course if you're in studio and you don't mind the cable for tethering I'd still suggest tethering. I only mention it because I've tech'd for some photographers that absolutely HATED having a tethering cable coming out of the camera.
3. That's a good question! I'll ask regarding how long they've seen the batteries last when doing very long exposures.
4. We can help you with that. Just shoot me an email.
You can zoom in and out in near real time. It only takes 2-3 seconds to redraw the screen when making big changes to zoom/panning.
Hmm, maybe I should just pay for a night / extreme exposure / light painting photography workshop for one of the phase engineers/product managers so that can understand why this is such a big deal to some of us.
Tonight I was shooting the Racetrack in Death Valley using light painting on the rocks & tracks and another set up shooting star trails. I'd love to be using my MF gear but I can only do this effectively with my loathesome Nikons. (Actually they're not really loathesome, it's just that I'd rather be shooting 4x5 ratio with my DF or Alpa vs using a different system just for this). Make LENR an option - heck make it a three finger convoluted key sequence to enable/disable you want, but I'd trade off post process NR with a dedicated dark frame (like LCC really) vs having to wait between shots.
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A few additional considerations though:
- They had working WiFi units in Dubai and we (Digital Transitions) will have a working prototype unit in our office next Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday (reserve a time slot to see it).
- USB is very very nearly ready on the IQ1. In fact if you have need/desire for it now you can join the final stages of testing by speaking with your dealer.
- USB3 was very new on the market when they started development; the specification was still in flux. Wifi's N 5Ghz spec has been out there for several years and is established, mature technology.
- Phase One already has a lot of code/experience for Capture Pilot. You can already (and many people do already) use Capture Pilot with a computer in between the camera and iPad. It's not easy to remove the computer from the equation, but it's also not as hard as starting from scratch.
As stated elsewhere above, the raw file isn't transfered. All the storage and heavy lifting is done in the IQ back where there is a custom-design four-core processor and several auxiliary processors handling such tasks.
For clarity, at launch they will have live preview working, and wifi working, but not the ability to do live preview over wifi. That will come later (as a free update).
And the quality of live preview will be the same as in the IQ1. So on a sunny beach mid-day you'll need ND filters to get a good live preview.
However, we do not expect any huge improvements in higher ISO performance. Though, if you haven't seen an ISO1600 sensor+ file in Capture One v7 it really is a very good file (I use it a lot at weddings and when shooting actor/actress headshots).