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    Re: Fun with MF images, part 2: What are you shooting with that MF back?

    Tough shot. No tripod, no monopod ISO 200 1/160 at 4.5 and no freaking light with new 150mm 2.8 mamiya lens, which maybe my favorite in the bag. Still working on color balance. Just got home from trip and gig. Man it is hot here. Left San Diego this morning at a cool 74 degree's. Now that is living.

    Yes they are getting married and I am shooting it, lucky me. LOL
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    Re: Fun with MF images, part 2: What are you shooting with that MF back?

    Another I just hit on. Have to go through these better but I really like this lens.
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    Re: Fun with MF images, part 2: What are you shooting with that MF back?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flesher View Post
    Woody:

    Can you post crops of say the head and antlers of the statue and the swirly thing in its upper left hand?
    O.K jack

    Here you go . Looking forward to your analysis.

    Woody

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    Re: Fun with MF images, part 2: What are you shooting with that MF back?

    First one would think this is movement but it actually maybe mirror slap. The real answer I am afraid is the statue moved from the wind because the building did not. Tricky stuff

    Either that or you kicked the tripod the last few seconds
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    Re: Fun with MF images, part 2: What are you shooting with that MF back?

    Hi Woody:

    Your problem is probably camera motion, and probably at the beginning of the exposure (mirror slap?) and slowed down after 2 or 3 seconds of the 13 second exposure, thus creating the subtle ghosting along the statue edges. OR it is possibly statue motion due to wind, though it's hard to tell exactly which without looking at a sharpest part of the building which isn't likely to be moving due to wind. Either will cause the statue to be blurry as it shows in your crop, and explains why your image doesn't look sharp to you, even down-rezzed.

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    Re: Fun with MF images, part 2: What are you shooting with that MF back?

    And Guy and I post at the same time. Again...
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    Re: Fun with MF images, part 2: What are you shooting with that MF back?

    Scary part is we said the same thing. LOL
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    Re: Fun with MF images, part 2: What are you shooting with that MF back?

    Real issue is that both of you see the same problem. So I need to find a way, even with a tripod in the equation, to assure the camera is not moving during the exposure.

    Thanks Jack and Guy and all the others who post to show what is wrong with the images posted here.

    God Bless

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    Re: Fun with MF images, part 2: What are you shooting with that MF back?

    So why do I come here for help? Are you kidding...Thanks to Guy and Jack and I can't wait for the next (lighting) workshop to get to some of the issues that still bug me.

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    Re: Fun with MF images, part 2: What are you shooting with that MF back?

    Quote Originally Posted by woodyspedden View Post
    Real issue is that both of you see the same problem. So I need to find a way, even with a tripod in the equation, to assure the camera is not moving during the exposure.

    Thanks Jack and Guy and all the others who post to show what is wrong with the images posted here.

    God Bless

    Woody
    Woody, if you post a 100% crop of one of the rocks in the same plane as the statue, we can tell you if it was wind on the statue or camera movement. The distinction is important because the former is a natural condition that is difficult to control, while the latter is an execution issue that can be avoided/corrected with proper technique.

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    Re: Fun with MF images, part 2: What are you shooting with that MF back?

    Quote Originally Posted by woodyspedden View Post
    O.K jack

    Here you go . Looking forward to your analysis.

    Woody
    Looking at the sun like thing to the left, there is very little evidence of motion, On the other hand the spiral thingie shows motion but only in the vertical plane.
    My conclusion: subject motion mostly at least on the spiral thingy.
    Otherwise, for an exposure that long, mirror slap doesn't seem plausible since that would have died down within milliseconds.
    Some other factor, such as the tripod footing, if it was grass or soil, then a slight movement throughout the exposure is possible in addition to the subject motion on the spiral thingy.
    -bob

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    Re: Fun with MF images, part 2: What are you shooting with that MF back?

    Woodie

    I took the liberty of saving your crop and opening it to CS3 to see it better. As far as I could tell it appears that the only movement is from the statue as I failed to see any “ghosting” in the roof lines. I just looked at the original image you posted and saw a shadow in the upper left under the roof line. Take a look there and see if you have the same movements; if so I’d lay even money on the wind.



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    Re: Fun with MF images, part 2: What are you shooting with that MF back?

    Thanks to both Don and Bob

    I am trying really hard to understand how best to shoot the MFDB and I continue to say it is not a trivial exercise.

    I will relook at the image for the things you have described and try very hard to get better

    Thanks pros and Bob, look forward to seeing you again in fort lauderdale

    Woody

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    "I am trying really hard to understand how best to shoot the MFDB and I continue to say it is not a trivial exercise."

    No truer words were spoken. As a hobbyist with an entry level MFDB (CFV); focus, tripod, mirror slap, etc., seem to be magnified with less than optimal technique.

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    Re: Fun with MF images, part 2: What are you shooting with that MF back?

    David - I want one of those lenses -

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    Re: Fun with MF images, part 2: What are you shooting with that MF back?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob View Post
    Looking at the sun like thing to the left, there is very little evidence of motion, On the other hand the spiral thingie shows motion but only in the vertical plane.
    My conclusion: subject motion mostly at least on the spiral thingy.
    Otherwise, for an exposure that long, mirror slap doesn't seem plausible since that would have died down within milliseconds.
    Some other factor, such as the tripod footing, if it was grass or soil, then a slight movement throughout the exposure is possible in addition to the subject motion on the spiral thingy.
    -bob
    Woody,
    I was mistaken,
    It looks like vertical plane motion on the whole statue thing, but the building background is too oof to tell.
    an enlarged portion of something in-focus and stationary as Jack suggests is what is needed to differentiate subject vs camera movement.
    sorry about my first post, I must have been blind.
    -bob

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    Re: Fun with MF images, part 2: What are you shooting with that MF back?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob View Post
    Woody,
    I was mistaken,
    It looks like vertical plane motion on the whole statue thing, but the building background is too oof to tell.
    an enlarged portion of something in-focus and stationary as Jack suggests is what is needed to differentiate subject vs camera movement.
    sorry about my first post, I must have been blind.
    -bob
    No worries Bob. Apparently I have been blind for years! LOL

    Woody

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    Re: Fun with MF images, part 2: What are you shooting with that MF back?

    Mamiya 645, ZD, 35mm lens, handheld.


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    Re: Fun with MF images, part 2: What are you shooting with that MF back?

    Jan:

    A duck dragging his feet?

    Looks like you're getting along very well with that new system

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    Re: Fun with MF images, part 2: What are you shooting with that MF back?

    Just wanted to share ...



    This was taken near Anchor Point Alaska.

    Mamiya AFD II/P30+ and the 28mm lens.

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    Re: Fun with MF images, part 2: What are you shooting with that MF back?

    Hi Don,

    You are doing nice work with that 28mm.

    Kurt

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    Re: Fun with MF images, part 2: What are you shooting with that MF back?

    Quote Originally Posted by KurtKamka View Post
    Hi Don,

    You are doing nice work with that 28mm.

    Kurt
    Thank you Kurt. I've found that the Mamiya is wearing the 28mm way more than 80% of the time. I understand that this lens might be causing problems with others (for the most part P45) however I've not encountered any problems other than the occasional user error.

    don

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    Jack, I was kind of wondering about the drag marks myself. But it's on both feet, so must be normal. It's something smaller than a duck though, probably a gull and we all know how they like to put on their act when they see a camera. This one was probably moonwalking!

    Don, very nice one!

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    Re: Fun with MF images, part 2: What are you shooting with that MF back?

    No Jan I admit that is my feet in the morning before 2 cups of espresso. Just dragging my web feet around. LOL

    Nice shot Don. I want the 28mm but I think I maybe better served with the Schnieder 24mm for some interiors with my Alpa. Like flipping a coin, just never know what i will do next. LOL
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    Re: Fun with MF images, part 2: What are you shooting with that MF back?

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Creek View Post
    Just wanted to share ...



    This was taken near Anchor Point Alaska.

    Mamiya AFD II/P30+ and the 28mm lens.

    don
    Beautiful image Don. Looks like you had a great trip. I haven't been down to the Anchor Point area for many years.....makes me realize I should get out of Anchorage more often!

    Just got my 503CWD-II and 40mm IF lens back from Hasselblad USA service today, so I'm hoping to get out this weekend.

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    Don, I love the colours and mood of that shot.

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    I definitely agree, the colors are beautiful!

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    I join my voice to this nice image.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carbonmetrictree View Post
    I definitely agree, the colors are beautiful!

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    Don,

    Just jumping on the bandwagon....very lovely shot as are many that you've posted both here and on LL. Always look forward to seeing your work.

    Also want to welcome Andrew. I enjoyed looking through your site....very impressive stuff! And I like the way you navigate through it.

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    Re: Fun with MF images, part 2: What are you shooting with that MF back?

    Yes - Andrew welcome to the forum and I am diggin some of your work - especially the personal stuff through derelict car views - cool.

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    Thanks Lance, I'm really excited to see how far I can push the equipment. You've been such a great help in finding the stuff I need! (actually want, but I'll stick with denial)

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    Re: Fun with MF images, part 2: What are you shooting with that MF back?

    Here's one from yesterday ...

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    Re: Fun with MF images, part 2: What are you shooting with that MF back?

    that's what i am shooting with my mf digital back
    c645, p25, bowens

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    Re: Fun with MF images, part 2: What are you shooting with that MF back?

    what does the sticker on the pot plant say Irakly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterA View Post
    what does the sticker on the pot plant say Irakly?
    it says "баковский завод пластмасс" (bakovsky factory of plastic goods) and has an adorable horsy on it

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    - is good.

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    мне больше интересуются женшины чем заводов
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuart Richardson View Post
    мне больше интересуются женшины чем заводов
    is there anything that i can do to help?

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    Re: Fun with MF images, part 2: What are you shooting with that MF back?

    just keep shooting and focus on the women, not the potted plants
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    me kanetai na gelao - axafna kai me toribo megalo - kaka paidia!

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    Re: Fun with MF images, part 2: What are you shooting with that MF back?

    Well the weather is hot, it's a bad time of year for photography here and the light sucked, but Bob F and I went out and shot a little today anyway. Here is one from late this morning, P45+, Mamiya 55mm AF at f11. I know boring light, but hey, I warned you!:



    Here's another -- the B&W version is a little better in this light than the color IMO. Mamiya 55m again, but at f16:

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    Re: Fun with MF images, part 2: What are you shooting with that MF back?

    playing around with ambient light.. going to go back this weekend with strobes and play some more...

    oh.. Aptus 75, Horseman SWD-II, rodenstock 35mm (f16, fully shifted in all directions.... so whatever that ends up being the equivalent of focal length wise)





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    Re: Fun with MF images, part 2: What are you shooting with that MF back?

    That is the end result I want. So what focal length math folks
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    Re: Fun with MF images, part 2: What are you shooting with that MF back?

    Jim a great examle of a nice stich- I hope Guy is looking given he is interested in an 'architectral interior' lens. I think the 35 is a perfect focal length for these systems. I am wondering how sharp the stereo/tv? is on the left hand side wall...

    Jack - what you say is ordinary light is what I am looking forward to in teh coming months - it is a long grey winter down here and full of 'ordinary if not downright non-existant light -

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    Peter,

    I think that many of us (photographers) here in California are looking forward to some grey weather, some clouds, anything other than summer. I'm glad to see Jack (and Bob) out in what he labeled "ordinary light". I often can't even drag myself out during these mid-summer months.



    Oh, and I think you made good use of the light for this season, Jack. Cheers.

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    Re: Fun with MF images, part 2: What are you shooting with that MF back?

    Out with Jack in "ordinary" California light


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    Re: Fun with MF images, part 2: What are you shooting with that MF back?

    And a few more

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    Re: Fun with MF images, part 2: What are you shooting with that MF back?

    Nice photos all. I spent 4 years in Santa Barbara, but it is true, too much of anything is problematic. The tyranny of a sunny day...I much preferred winter when it was still in the 60s, but you got nice puffy clouds, occasional rain, and much crisper skies.
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    Re: Fun with MF images, part 2: What are you shooting with that MF back?

    if you shift the horseman/35 about 10 mm each way, you basically overcome the crop. it takes my 40 x 40 mm sensor back to a 60 x 60 image. that would be about the same as a 21mm lens on a 35 mm camera

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