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    Re: Fun with MF images

    It may be my monitor, but I am seeing lots of sharpening artifacts in the high-frequency areas that B&W xpixel, like it is WAYYYYY over-sharpenend with a detail routine. You may want to take a look at your sharpening workflow.
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    Agreed. We all have different tastes and aesthetics, but that is clearly at the far upper end of sharpening.

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    Re: Fun with MF images

    But it's a spectacular shot...please post again when you've decided what to do sharpening-wise!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nik View Post
    This is my first time post in this thread. Phase One DF + Leaf Aptus II 10 + 300mm F4.5. No color editing. Sunset in Alaska.
    So you can see Russia from Alaska after all (you know what I mean if you are familiar with US politics).

    Nice image Nik.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Caulfeild-Browne View Post
    But it's a spectacular shot...please post again when you've decided what to do sharpening-wise!
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    Thanks Bill. It looks ok on my 27" iMac. I will post a less sharpened version later today for other monitor viewers...

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    Quote Originally Posted by xpixel View Post
    Thanks Bill. It looks ok on my 27" iMac. I will post a less sharpened version later today for other monitor viewers...
    Maybe you have to lower the default sharpening for those Leica lenses ...

    Looks way over sharpened on my 30" Mac monitors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fotografz View Post
    Maybe you have to lower the default sharpening for those Leica lenses ...
    Maybe possible with the next firmware update...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flesher View Post
    Thomas, very nice series, glacier #2 is my favorite --- really nice!
    Thank you Jack. Here are at last 3 images. First and second are from Norway with Contax 645, P25 and Vario-Sonnar 45-90. The third image is from Tullamore in Ireland with Contax 645, Fuji Velvia 100, Sonnar 210 and scanned with Imacon Flextight 646.

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    One of my favourite views of London. Looking South-East from Alexandra Palace:

    Aptus-II 12, 645DF with 80mm LS, the buildings in the crop are 12 kilometres away...




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    Impressive Yair!
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    Thomas, I have to admit that your scan of Velvia is looking better than I remember it being for me
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    Quote Originally Posted by xpixel View Post
    Thanks Bill. It looks ok on my 27" iMac. I will post a less sharpened version later today for other monitor viewers...
    FWIW, it still looks significantly oversharpened to me on my 15" MBP monitor too, so I do not think it is just a monitor issue. It is more likely a difference in our sharpening aesthetics...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flesher View Post
    Thomas, I have to admit that your scan of Velvia is looking better than I remember it being for me
    Jack, I'm also very impressed about the scanning results. The image is scanned with 360 dpi. The 646 is the best scanner I've ever used but it is a lot of work to scan (use gloves, remove dust before scan). Now I love the work with the Phase one backs. This evening I get a refurbished P45+ for my P25. I hope I can post some images soon.

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    Re: Fun with MF images

    A few more Yosemite photographs...this one of Stonebridge



    More at: http://peter-chong.blogspot.com/2010...-yosemite.html

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    Here two shots from today, nothing special except the lens ;-)

    P65 Single Image



    1:1



    P65 Two Images stitched in landscape oriantation.



    1:1 right bottom corner ( 15mm shift )



    All 1:1 are sharpened at 35/0,4.

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    Jack - how is that b&w conversion process going? ))))) (wink wink - nudge nudge)..

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    Let's just say something in the wind or on a wing if you prefer. LOL
    Photography is all about experimentation and without it you will never learn art.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher View Post
    nothing special except the lens ;-)
    which one? :-)

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    Here is the less sharpend version...


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    Quote Originally Posted by xpixel View Post
    Here is the less sharpend version...

    Gorgeous.

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    This version is certainly beautiful, but I also liked something in the unrealistic look of the (over)sharpened image. It made the branches appear harder and vaguely threatening, almost crystalline.

    I must read too much sci-fi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xpixel View Post
    Here is the less sharpend version...

    This is so much better. Honestly your over sharpening has been killing your images and you have some great shots too. This is so much better. In MF you need very very little sharpening if any. I put a very small base on my P40+ files and even when i print very large i don't add anymore. What you really are after is a look or smoothness in a image. The over sharpening just looks more like a point and shoot and you Leica glass really does need any.

    Seriously if you really want to see how good your files are and that goes for any MF files get a wide gamut monitor. A world of difference between these NEC, Eizo VS the Mac monitors .
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    Quote Originally Posted by thomas View Post
    which one? :-)
    What do you think ? ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher View Post
    What do you think ? ;-)
    43XL?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    This is so much better. Honestly your over sharpening has been killing your images and you have some great shots too. This is so much better. In MF you need very very little sharpening if any. I put a very small base on my P40+ files and even when i print very large i don't add anymore. What you really are after is a look or smoothness in a image. The over sharpening just looks more like a point and shoot and you Leica glass really does need any.

    Seriously if you really want to see how good your files are and that goes for any MF files get a wide gamut monitor. A world of difference between these NEC, Eizo VS the Mac monitors .

    Thanks for your advice, i appreciate it.

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    To be fair to xpixel, I woke up to a similar snowy scene this morning, and guess what, suddenly the world does look too contrasty and very over-sharpened!

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    Taken same spot as pic on the other page but slightly earlier, Storm clouds rolling in H4D-40 and 35-90mm

    Last edited by Will Ophuis; 29th November 2010 at 23:53.
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    Hassy H4D-40.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will Ophuis View Post
    Taken same spot as pic on the other page but slightly early, Storm clouds rolling in H4D-40 and 35-90mm

    Will, this is a very impressive image. I would be grateful to hear about the aperture and the shutter speed.

    Thank you, Thomas.

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    Thank you Thomas, settings were 35mm iso 100 F/16 sh 1/4 sec, used a GND and Polarizer too.


    Cheers
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    Hassy H4D-40.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will Ophuis View Post
    Thank you Thomas, settings were 35mm iso 100 F/16 sh 1/4 sec, used a GND and Polarizer too.


    Cheers
    Will.
    Thank you.

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    Rodenstock HR-W 32mm :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher View Post
    Rodenstock HR-W 32mm :-)
    impressive!
    are you just testing or did you buy it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomas View Post
    impressive!
    are you just testing or did you buy it?
    bought it. Arca had one, which was available right away, the Schneider would have taken till Feb/March.

    I don't know how well the Schneider 28 holds up when shifted, but I'm really happy with the 32. (It has it's price ......)

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    Quote Originally Posted by xpixel View Post
    Here is the less sharpend version...

    This one is SIGNIFICANTLY better, but honestly my own preference would be to dial it back a little more still -- the fine detail in the bushes across the river still appear gritty instead of smooth. Anyway, it is MUCH better, and as long as you like it, that's what counts!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Will Ophuis View Post
    Taken same spot as pic on the other page but slightly earlier, Storm clouds rolling in H4D-40 and 35-90mm
    Very nice Will!
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    Adriatic sea - M645AFDIII.,Has.4/40 CFE IF

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    Quote Originally Posted by xpixel View Post
    Here is the less sharpend version...
    Perhaps a less sharpened (i.e. original from the camera) would be even better.

    The sharpened images look too phony and theatrical.

    Nice shot, but the rendering leaves much to be desired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher View Post
    bought it. Arca had one, which was available right away, the Schneider would have taken till Feb/March.
    cool!
    May I ask how much the light falloff is at f11?
    And what do you think about handling the lens regarding its weight. Cambo told me you should pack the lens wrapped and and stored in a separate box (holding the lens on four sides) as otherwise the shutter may break due to vibration during transport.

    Have fun! Looking forward to your "review"

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    at f11 it is around 0,8-1 stop on the edges and 1,2-1,5 in the very corners. As soon as I have more time I will write more about the lens.

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    Ushuaia, Argentina killing time waiting to sail for Antarctica tomorrow.

    P65, 645DF, 55-110mm, f/8




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    Have an awesome trip Ed!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Caulfeild-Browne View Post
    So don't hold us in suspense, Jack - what new B&W technique? Educate us!

    It is certainly most effective!

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    Here you go, we can finally share: http://forum.getdpi.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21544

    Note that "Split-Toning" is a traditional B&W printing process that toned highlights and shadows differently; some chemicals reacted more heavily on the paper stock while others toned more heavily on the activated silver parts. So by combining the base paper color with various chemical baths during the rinse cycles, you would get enhanced tones across the "monochromatic" image, giving it an added impression of depth.
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    Jack, guys, thank you all for the kind words! Here's another one taken in the Alaskan wilderness with Phase One DF + Leaf Aptus II 10 with Mamiya 300 4.5. I named it "Life is good!" :-))))


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nik View Post
    Jack, guys, thank you all for the kind words! Here's another one taken in the Alaskan wilderness with Phase One DF + Leaf Aptus II 10 with Mamiya 300 4.5. I named it "Life is good!" :-))))
    NICE....

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    Very nice!! Especially considering you were pretty close to those bears with a 300 on MF...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flesher View Post
    Very nice!! Especially considering you were pretty close to those bears with a 300 on MF...
    Yep, I can get very close even to the mother with the cubs ... They know I come from Russia - so they never touch me

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    Bears : wow.

    Playing with the new BW tool in CaptureOne 6.
    Still shooting with my P25+, and I don't to uprgrade in anything : the more I use it , the more I like it.






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    P1 DF + P40+ + P1 28mm D


    The horizons of lake berryessa III by M.ALKHAMIS, on Flickr


    The horizons of lake berryessa IV by M.ALKHAMIS, on Flickr
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    A picture of a bald eagle getting ready to take off.

    Phase One DF+ Leaf Aptus II 10 + Mamiya 300 mm f 4.5 :

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