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    ceh - love this b&w.

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    A few more with the ZD .....






    All studio lighting, AB800s, strip softbox, I think both were with the 150mm ( could be wrong though )

    As usual, C&C welcome ....

    and if you want to look at the set, drop a mail to djonesii at yahoo dot com

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    So.. normal people when they cant sleep - they drink milk, or whisky and falling back.. Me - fat chance. I figured i may as well try to play with idea for lighting shot that i had for a week now.

    Leaf 54s + RZ67 IID + 140 Macro


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    Quote Originally Posted by SergeiR View Post
    So.. normal people when they cant sleep - they drink milk, or whisky and falling back.. Me - fat chance. I figured i may as well try to play with idea for lighting shot that i had for a week now.

    Leaf 54s + RZ67 IID + 140 Macro

    Been thinking lately of getting an old RB and a 140mm to use with my Aptus 22 — looks very compatible. No weird fringing?

    Had a 140mm many years ago; great lens.

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    Been thinking lately of getting an old RB and a 140mm to use with my Aptus 22 — looks very compatible. No weird fringing?
    Nothing that i would notice, but then i use RZ glass, so i am not sure how RB one will hold.

    But then i am not good at pixel peeping as long as it looks ok full-screen on 24 inch monitor - its good for me - i.e i know that print of same size will look ok. So unless there is need to print rather large poster/plaque - i never even bother to check closely - too lazy, plus i believe this is what publisher/designer should do anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by SergeiR View Post
    i never even bother to check closely - too lazy, plus i believe this is what publisher/designer should do anyway
    Unfortunately, I get to be the designer with most of my photographs!

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    Unfortunately, I get to be the designer with most of my photographs!
    Thats what Capture One is for But seriously though - i did some shots with contra-light, like bright gray sky and branches - cant really say i seen much of aberrations. Biggest problem is - whole MF design isnt great to handle light when it goes under weird angle towards camera axis - so you may (and will) get some side-shadows if you go for it. But it is common dSLR issue I seen it on Nikon, i seen it on Canon.. i seen it on Aptus with 645 body and with RZ body. So its nothing new. For everything else - its great, very sharp, very detailed combo. As long as you not forgetting to blow off dust ))

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    Quote Originally Posted by SergeiR View Post
    Thats what Capture One is for
    Amen!

    Quote Originally Posted by SergeiR View Post
    As long as you not forgetting to blow off dust ))
    I'm finding that is one of the biggest hurdles that I have to overcome. I'm used to going for a couple of weeks to a month before I need to clean my DSLRs. This every time I pull the back out routine is not there yet.

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    Re: Fun with MF images

    A few stock studo shots taken recently with the H4D-50 and 120 Macro





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    Quote Originally Posted by djonesii View Post
    A few more with the ZD .....






    All studio lighting, AB800s, strip softbox, I think both were with the 150mm ( could be wrong though )

    As usual, C&C welcome ....

    and if you want to look at the set, drop a mail to djonesii at yahoo dot com

    Dave
    Super shots. The Zd is capable of great work - in the right hands

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    Quentin, you've made me thirsty!

    That first one has great impact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SergeiR View Post
    i did some shots with contra-light, like bright gray sky and branches - cant really say i seen much of aberrations. Biggest problem is - whole MF design isnt great to handle light when it goes under weird angle towards camera axis - so you may (and will) get some side-shadows if you go for it. But it is common dSLR issue I seen it on Nikon, i seen it on Canon.. i seen it on Aptus with 645 body and with RZ body. So its nothing new. For everything else - its great, very sharp, very detailed combo. As long as you not forgetting to blow off dust ))
    Do you mean that it is an SLR issue, due to the crappy retro-focus lenses they are forced to make when the focal length of the lens is not much more than the depth of the mirror-box?

    The simple solution is to use a "proper" mirror-free professional camera (AKA technical or view camera) with "normal" rather than retro-focus lenses - try some Schneider Apo-Digitars (the non-retro-focus ones).

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    Do you mean that it is an SLR issue, due to the crappy retro-focus lenses they are forced to make when the focal length of the lens is not much more than the depth of the mirror-box?

    The simple solution is to use a "proper" mirror-free professional camera (AKA technical or view camera) with "normal" rather than retro-focus lenses - try some Schneider Apo-Digitars (the non-retro-focus ones).

    Nope - has nothing to do with mirror in or out, actually. This is effect of light coming into chamber and rebouncing off the surface of sensor's filter (even thin one). Never used to happen with film b/c of matte surface.

    Result is funny horizontal or vertical semi-shadowed section (about 1/10 width of overall frame direction) on overwise clear and nice shot. First time you freak out that this is something wrong with shutter, and then you realizing its not.

    All SLRs prone to it - no matter what format - 4/3 or dMF. Never tried it on mirorrless camera, but then i rarely want to really reproduce it )

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvirtue View Post
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    I'm finding that is one of the biggest hurdles that I have to overcome. I'm used to going for a couple of weeks to a month before I need to clean my DSLRs. This every time I pull the back out routine is not there yet.
    Hah.. i didnt have to do that in YEARS with Olympus gear. Even after shooting on dusty backroads of Colorado. This is one of things i greatly miss about E- system - dust cleaning that really works (unlike all the others, i am sorry - my D700 is nowhere to come close to that).

    However this is entirely different topic.

    And on MFdb great part of detachable back - you can easily clean buggers. Unfortunately they gather dust equally well if you switching lenses often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Caulfeild-Browne View Post
    Quentin, you've made me thirsty!

    That first one has great impact.
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    Hi Bill, thanks, it was quite fun to shoot. The H4D-50 files are great to work with too. Quentin
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    Damn be BBC America and iTunes - can we have Dr Who episodes updated more often? Oh and can we have David Tennant back? I miss him.



    On a bit more serious note, seeing that we going into portrait zone now..



    Aptus 54s + RZ67 IID
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    Quote Originally Posted by SergeiR View Post
    Damn be BBC America and iTunes - can we have Dr Who episodes updated more often? Oh and can we have David Tennant back? I miss him.
    Not been a fan since William Hartnell (shows how old I am) but Tennant was more appealing than the new chap.

    Quote Originally Posted by SergeiR View Post

    On a bit more serious note, seeing that we going into portrait zone now..


    140 again?
    Last edited by mediumcool; 16th January 2011 at 18:14. Reason: Pulled my comment out of quote

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    Last week at Bridalveil Falls. P45 210mm Nikkor-W

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimban View Post
    Last week at Bridalveil Falls. P45 210mm Nikkor-W
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    Mamiya RZ67 IID w/ 140mm Macro ISO100:1/400th:F16

    Playing with glass in the studio


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob View Post
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    140 again?
    Nope. 110/2.8 that one. Smallest and brightest of them all. Closed down to f8.

    Wish there would be 180/2.8 for RZ, just for the heck of it, but oh well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SergeiR View Post
    Nope. 110/2.8 that one. Smallest and brightest of them all. Closed down to f8.
    Wonder if it’s the same optical design as the 110mm F2.8 for the 645—that was a good, bright lens.

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    I spent this past weekend on a workshop at the Gladding McBean Ceramics factory in Lincoln, CA. The factory was originally opened in 1875 and is still in operation today. They make everything from ceramic bathroom tiles to 42" diameter clay sewer pipe. The total plant covers around 400 ares and they have 20 of those under one interconnected roof!

    These images were all made with my P65+/DF, mostly with the 80LS or the 110LS and mostly shot wide-open. I chose sepia because I think it better portrays the overall feel of the place when you're in it; it is like stepping back in time in many parts. Also, the lighting is very dim, so most of these are fairly long exposures -- I went through 4 back batteries in a day of maybe 200 image captures. Also, the lighting is a mixture of Mercury vapor, Sodium vapor, Fluorescent, Tungsten, Daylight through cruddy windows and the gas-jets on the kilns themselves, so color is "interesting" to say the very least! Jim Collum was on this workshop as well, and shot his M9 most of the time, so you'll find some of his images in the Leica image thread.

    I processed all of these images in C1 using a custom split-sepiatone style I built in the new B&W tool in ver 6. The only work done in Photoshop was putting the C1 images in the frames.

    Here's a sample, C&C welcome:





















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    Jack: They are all great. I especially like Corridor and Pipes 'n Palms. Congratulations for such superb work!
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    Sorry, I went through the series again. WOW!!!!
    What do you call this? Inspiration? serendipity?, expertise?, luck?, gear? talent? All of these?

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    +1. And except for the few indicators of modernity most of this series could have been taken a hundred years ago. I especially like the 'Managers Office'. The light is superb (the desk lamp is pretty cool too) and IMHO it would make a beautiful print.

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    Jack, you're the Man!
    That's a great style you cooked up.
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    my kind of place...prints must be gorgeous!

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    Jack, All fantastic but the Mgr's office is my favorite. Very cool indeed!

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    Splendid work all around, Jack!

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    Been so caught up with the M9 I haven't posted here recently...so here goes again!



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    A foggy day on the St. Lawrence. P65+, 80 mm.


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    agreed Nice series, Jack. Still - would be kinda interesting to see it in colour, actually.. mixed sources might be something to add to image

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    Nice Jack. Sorry folks I was in LA all week shooting and just got home . Was on the forum very little in that time frame but some nice images here.
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    Jack,
    Just love "The Manager's Office"!

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    Thank you for the kind words everybody! It is what we refer to as a "target rich environment!" Guy is flying out next week and we are going to discuss possibly adding this as a side-excursion to one of our GetDPI workshops.

    Sergei, I will try to process out a few in "color" and post them tomorrow.

    For now, here is one more that Jim Collum gets credit for pointing out to me:





    And a couple that hopefully bring a smile:





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    Bill, I love the foggy day shot!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flesher View Post
    Thank you for the kind words everybody! It is what we refer to as a "target rich environment!" Guy is flying out next week and we are going to discuss possibly adding this as a side-excursion to one of our GetDPI workshops.

    Sergei, I will try to process out a few in "color" and post them tomorrow.

    For now, here is one more that Jim Collum gets credit for pointing out to me:





    And a couple that hopefully bring a smile:





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    Jack, love Pipes 'n Palms.

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    Excellent Jack! Sublime lighting. Well seen.

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    Love them all, Jack, great use of tone and lighting. Sepia suits the subject matter, gives the images a haunting quality.

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    Bill Caulfeild-Browne - A foggy day on the St. Lawrence. P65+, 80 mm....

    Nice image, Bill.

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    Wow, impressive shots Mr. Flesher!

    I really like the "Corridor" and the "Wrench".

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    The tonality of the work is incredible Jack, managers office, hmmm, wanna do another print swap? A small but well printed copy of that would be incredible...
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    Jack, very nice B+W series......the sepia split tone is perfect for these...I like the visual geometry of the "Pipes'n Palms" .....Tom.

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    Sergei,

    Here are two mixed lighting examples that I think best illustrate the issues with shooting color there. (Both of these were shot 4 years ago with a Canon, but they made better examples of the color mixes than anything I took this past weekend with the Phase --- and this time I specifically searched for compositions destined for monochrome output.)

    This first one is "interesting" as a discussion image, it does not make for very good print work IMHO. I set the WB to basic daylight. What you have here is daylight coming through a door from distant camera left. You have a large Mercury vapor light directly to camera right. Finally you have a large Sodium vapor lamp providing overhead key lighting on background elements. To put this into perspective, that is raw, un-cooked clay pipe in front of me, basically a gray-tan color, almost the same color as wet concrete. Once fired, it turns brick-red. If you look to the left, you can see tips of them lit by the outdoor light and their "normal" color:


    Next we have an image that I think works better for print, though honestly it would still be better as a split-sepia. I did choose what I felt was the most attractive WB, which was a bit cooler than BDL. This one has daylight from holes in the roof overhead, a Mercury vapor light in the distance tinging the background, bright orange from a few of the kiln's gas jets, and there is a weak fluorescent overhead right as well:

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    To the rest of the comments, again thank you for the kind words. While the natural light at GMB is wonderful, adding the split sepia treatment does improve "depth" in the images. If you have not tried the new C1's advanced B&W split-tone tool, I suggest you DL the trial and give it a whirl!

    PS: Based on the positive comments, I have decided to offer up a limited run of 12 sets containing six of the above images. Details here: http://forum.getdpi.com/forum/showth...631#post281631
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    A truly wonderful series Jack. You really got the feel of this piece of history.

    The B&W conversion is very sensitive and conveys the mood well. I've not investigated it's possibilities yet. Is it possible to give some ball-park figures and indication of which are the key controls please?

    Many thanks

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    wonderful pictures Jack, I love them so much in the sepia! rem

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