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    RZIID + Aptus54s + 140 macro


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    (ps: i know about flare edge thing on the right border, but i like it.. imho it adds to "feel").

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    Now some different to the skylines. It was shot in Singapore this June.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher View Post
    Now some different to the skylines. It was shot in Singapore this June.

    IQ180+, 150D, 3 image stitch.

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    Got one i kind of like from yesterday testing my SK 60mm XL lens.

    Photography is all about experimentation and without it you will never learn art.

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    Hello !

    A postcard from my last trip to Syracusa Sicilia.

    Nice weather

    H4d50 HC 28

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Got one i kind of like from yesterday testing my SK 60mm XL lens.

    Nice capture. Lots of cool stuff to look at. Great tonality too.
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    A lot of great stuff being posted. Been in Hawaii the last week but have not gotten many good looks this trip. Here is one of the better ones shot on the North Shore of O'ahu. We were hoping for some big waves but things calmed down a few days before we arrived.

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    Hello !

    A postcard from my last trip to Syracusa Sicilia.

    Nice weather

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    Are you thinking about getting the TS adaptor?

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    Good point Dick, I was about to ask the same question....

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    Are you thinking about getting the TS adaptor?
    Yes, I do ! I even tested it and I will buy it eventually.

    In the same time here, all those distorsions are giving the exact feeling of what it was that moment ! The wind was so strong, I was sick !


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    Quote Originally Posted by Swissblad View Post
    Good point Dick, I was about to ask the same question....
    This is almost the same photo (the previous one in fact), but with the camera correctly held, so there a far less distorsions ...

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    Much better Jerome.... now we don't fell sick anymore

    Lovely photo - you capture that stormy feeling very well.

    I really need to save up for the HC 28mm!

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    Just returning from SIHH (one of 2 large watch shows in Switzerland), playing with this image of the back of one of the watches shown...



    For my impressions on the S2 with the 120 macro, please visit here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerome View Post


    This is almost the same photo (the previous one in fact), but with the camera correctly held, so there a far less distorsions ...
    Timing can be important for architectural photography if there are cars or pedestrians in the shot, but here you have caught the wave better.

    The waves would make it difficult to stitch... unless all the water was in one shot - 2-shot vertical?

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    Quote Originally Posted by P. Chong View Post
    Just returning from SIHH (one of 2 large watch shows in Switzerland), playing with this image of the back of one of the watches shown...

    For my impressions on the S2 with the 120 macro, please visit here.
    If the lens does not do 1:1, it is not a macro lens.

    Most lenses described as "macro" are optimised for 1:1 to infinity, so they are good for close up.

    I have been thinking of using my micro-Nikkor 200 for live insect macro on my GH2, but I have a full set of Zeiss Luminar lenses for up to 40:1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swissblad View Post
    Much better Jerome.... now we don't fell sick anymore

    Lovely photo - you capture that stormy feeling very well.

    I really need to save up for the HC 28mm!
    Thanks

    I love the HC 28 and this is the one I use the most with the HC 50 mm2. For landscape, I feel always compelled to use it, as we have a wide vision. And of course, you have to be very carefull not to tilt it because of distorsion

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    Quote Originally Posted by dick View Post
    Timing can be important for architectural photography if there are cars or pedestrians in the shot, but here you have caught the wave better.

    The waves would make it difficult to stitch... unless all the water was in one shot - 2-shot vertical?
    Thanks !

    The wind was blowing very very strongly and it was rather difficult to stand on my feet. So it's a hand held shot, no possibility here to stich anything under such conditions.

    That was the photo I first choose and then I picked up the other one which was closer to the "sick feeling" I had at that time.

    I should have kept my sickness for myself

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    Hi Dick

    I'm puzzled by your 1:1 comment and macro lenses.

    Many macro lenses don't focus to 1:1, including the Hasselblad Zeiss 120mm macro, as well as a whole generation of Nikkor micro lenses (55mm and 105mm), as well as the old superb Minolta macro lenses etc.

    It was common for most of these to have a 1:2 reproduction ratio unless dedicated close-up rings were used.

    I think the most important characteristic is that a macro behave in a "planar" fashion akin to a repro lens, having a "flat-focus" field and corner to corner sharpness without distortion. This separates it from many "macro-zooms".

    The Zeiss luminar lenses were wonderful, but it is almost easier to use a stereo microscope with cold-light source for such photos.

    Just my 2c, S

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    Quote Originally Posted by P. Chong View Post
    Just returning from SIHH (one of 2 large watch shows in Switzerland), playing with this image of the back of one of the watches shown...



    For my impressions on the S2 with the 120 macro, please visit here.
    Lovely image - incredibly sharp - and I guess you didn't have a tripod at your disposal.
    I'm surprised they allowed you to take such photos - many manufacturers are wary of 2nd rate replicas made via such photos....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swissblad View Post
    Hi Dick

    I'm puzzled by your 1:1 comment and macro lenses.

    Many macro lenses don't focus to 1:1, including the Hasselblad Zeiss 120mm macro, as well as a whole generation of Nikkor micro lenses (55mm and 105mm), as well as the old superb Minolta macro lenses etc.

    It was common for most of these to have a 1:2 reproduction ratio unless dedicated close-up rings were used.

    I think the most important characteristic is that a macro behave in a "planar" fashion akin to a repro lens, having a "flat-focus" field and corner to corner sharpness without distortion. This separates it from many "macro-zooms".

    The Zeiss luminar lenses were wonderful, but it is almost easier to use a stereo microscope with cold-light source for such photos.

    Just my 2c, S
    Either they are not correctly described as "macro". or they are optimised to work at 1:1, but only with extension tubes.

    I have the Hasselblad/Zeiss macro 120, and the micro-nikkor 200IF, but I have not used them for a while, but I think they both need extension tube to go 1:1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swissblad View Post
    Lovely image - incredibly sharp - and I guess you didn't have a tripod at your disposal.
    I'm surprised they allowed you to take such photos - many manufacturers are wary of 2nd rate replicas made via such photos....
    I do watch photography for a living...so have strong relationships with the manufacturers.

    Quote Originally Posted by dick View Post
    Either they are not correctly described as "macro". or they are optimised to work at 1:1, but only with extension tubes.

    I have the Hasselblad/Zeiss macro 120, and the micro-nikkor 200IF, but I have not used them for a while, but I think they both need extension tube to go 1:1.
    I agree with Dick. To qualify as Macro, I think the lens must focus to procide 1:1. The HC120 macro does. And I regularly use it with 78mm extension to yield near 2:1 magnification images.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swissblad View Post
    I'm surprised they allowed you to take such photos - many manufacturers are wary of 2nd rate replicas made via such photos....
    Then why do the manufacturers show photos like these?

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    Quote Originally Posted by etrump View Post
    A lot of great stuff being posted. Been in Hawaii the last week but have not gotten many good looks this trip. Here is one of the better ones shot on the North Shore of O'ahu. We were hoping for some big waves but things calmed down a few days before we arrived.

    Cambo RS, IQ180, SK72L:

    nice image ... I love the contrast of cool to warm the composition you've put together with the palm tree.

    I'm headed to maui tomorrow. Just in time, winter seems to have finally arrived in Utah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dick View Post
    Are you thinking about getting the TS adaptor?
    The distorted image works best here, in my view. It gives it the dynamism, energy, accentuates the wave and the line of the houses. The corrected image is, well, correct, but boring. So, I'd keep the distorted image here and leave the TS adapter in the bag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dick View Post
    Are you thinking about getting the TS adaptor?
    Quote Originally Posted by baudolino View Post
    The distorted image works best here, in my view. It gives it the dynamism, energy, accentuates the wave and the line of the houses. The corrected image is, well, correct, but boring. So, I'd keep the distorted image here and leave the TS adapter in the bag.
    We are all entitled to an opinion... as art is what anyone appreciates... and, if what causes most of us nausea is what you appreciate...

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    Jerome, I really like the pictures without distortion much more!
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    Peter, you took the picture in Geneva? What is your setup under such conditions, especially the light? For me it looks great! Greetings from Bern, rem

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    Peter, you took the picture in Geneva? What is your setup under such conditions, especially the light? For me it looks great! Greetings from Bern, rem
    Rem, no. I shot this in a shop in Singapore. But, Pretty much show conditions. Portable studio - one Profoto Compact 600 with an umbrella, a couple of reflectors and flags. Camera on tripod. I travel to the SIHH and Bselworld with a similar setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baudolino View Post
    The distorted image works best here, in my view. It gives it the dynamism, energy, accentuates the wave and the line of the houses. The corrected image is, well, correct, but boring. So, I'd keep the distorted image here and leave the TS adapter in the bag.
    So I keep both of them

    Thanks, I couldn't choose, maybe I was right ! Sometime a "not so good technical photo" can be a better image !

    But, it's a very personnal choice

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    Jerome, I really like the pictures without distortion much more!
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    Thanks !

    I'm haapy you enjoy it, because I did take that much photos during this trip, because the weather was so bad !

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    One from last year, France, Touraine

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    point the camera up and you will get this effect. I think it works in this photo, if nothing else, disinguishing it from so many like it.
    sort of a surreal touch. not sure if that was your intention, but I would fight off any requests to straighten it up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne Fox View Post
    nice image ... I love the contrast of cool to warm the composition you've put together with the palm tree.

    I'm headed to maui tomorrow. Just in time, winter seems to have finally arrived in Utah.
    I would love to spend a couple weeks on the Keane peninsula. That huge bamboo forest just west of there looks pretty interesting from the road. There is always a couple dozen cars parked on the road.

    That whole corner of Maui from there to Hana is a photographers dream!

    Enjoy the trip.

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    Thank you Paul! I have to try once with one of my watches (was a collecting a while), but I wear the most, so I will not have one without some scratches... And of course, a Tourbillon I have not. But was playing last week with a Double Tourbillon at Beyer in Zurich;-)

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    like this picture with the trees Jerome. Nice light (and of course not so windy how in Syracusa;-)
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    One from last year, France, Touraine

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    Love this Jerome. Great color and ambiance. Would be nice to use t/s to avoid the wide angle distortion - sorry jlm ;

    This type of image is almost a genre of it's own.
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    Thank you Paul! I have to try once with one of my watches (was a collecting a while), but I wear the most, so I will not have one without some scratches... And of course, a Tourbillon I have not. But was playing last week with a Double Tourbillon at Beyer in Zurich;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by etrump View Post
    Love this Jerome. Great color and ambiance. Would be nice to use t/s to avoid the wide angle distortion - sorry jlm ;

    This type of image is almost a genre of it's own.
    Thanks !

    I've dhoot some without the distortion but without the foreground too ! Eventually, the foreground makes the photo, so that's the one I kept.

    Once again, holding the camera horizontally is the key and I didn't do it clearly at this time, as I was leaving, frustated that no good photos was there. And as I was leaving the location, looking from the road again, I saw that what I needed was a this nice foregreground. I don't really know if I could have done better with the distortion, by being more focused or if that was it.

    So I have no alternative to show

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    Quote Originally Posted by rem View Post
    like this picture with the trees Jerome. Nice light (and of course not so windy how in Syracusa;-)
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    Thanks !

    I've dhoot some without the distortion but without the foreground too ! Eventually, the foreground makes the photo, so that's the one I kept.

    Once again, holding the camera horizontally is the key and I didn't do it clearly at this time, as I was leaving, frustated that no good photos was there. And as I was leaving the location, looking from the road again, I saw that what I needed was a this nice foregreground. I don't really know if I could have done better with the distortion, by being more focused or if that was it.

    So I have no alternative to show
    If you do want to avoid the distortion, one option is to use the camera in portrait orientation, with the back vertical, and crop... in this instance a viewpoint farther to the right might have helped the background, but not the foreground, where the wave on the rocks was a major element in the picture.

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    Oh, sorry, off course Peter and thanks for the link!
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    Another photo ! An older one, from my H3d31.

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    The tiny point in the wave is a surfer, the HC 28 is so good !

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    love the colors...but have to say, either make the horizon level or don't; then you are making another kind of statement. So far your shots have all been off level a bit, but I'm getting the feeling that was an accident, not an intention

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlm View Post
    love the colors...but have to say, either make the horizon level or don't; then you are making another kind of statement. So far your shots have all been off level a bit, but I'm getting the feeling that was an accident, not an intention
    You're right, and it should have been rectified here

    My images often are tilt : an eye problem that is corrected with my glasses, but as I shoot without my glasses, I tend to lean the head ... I don't know if I'm clear, but I discovered the problem by having a huge number of photos leaning on the same side ... and complaining about my neck ! By correcting the vision, my head is now straight but I'm not comfortable shooting with glasses. When I use a tripod, this not a problem, but without a tripod ...

    Question to the people having glasses : do you remove your glasses when you shoot ?

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    Hello Peter,
    I must begin by telling you that I admire your work greatly, it is truly beautiful. Recently, I have been shooting with Leicas' excellent 120 Summarit and share your frustration with this lenses native magnification limitations. To remedy this, I have tried adding the 500D Diopter lens that is offered by Canon. It appears to impart very little image degradation while providing the opportunity to work at significantly higher magnification.
    Just a thought that you may find helpful.

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    H1 + 80mm @ 2.8 + Portra 160



    For comparison / reference: Canon 1Ds3 - 85L @ 2.8 + ISO 100


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    Beautiful! And a very nice portrait too.

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    Beautiful! And a very nice portrait too.
    Thanks, it's interesting to compare digital to MF film.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Giles View Post
    H1 + 80mm @ 2.8 + Portra 160



    For comparison / reference: Canon 1Ds3 - 85L @ 2.8 + ISO 100

    ¿So how can "professionals" get away with using Canons?

    ¿Do they think that this blurring effect is flattering, or minimised post-production?

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