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    Just before leaving to a new project tomorrow, I wanted to share two images from last year. I can't wait to see the new icehotel, but it will be hard to be even better. Last year was amazing.

    Icebar 2011 - Rm3di - 32mm - P65

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    Icehotel 2011 - Rm3di - 32mm - 2 image stitch - P65

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    Icehotel 2011 - Rm3di - 32mm -3 image stitch - P65

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    After seeing all the great Death Valley stuff I had to go through my images from last April. I reworked this one and like how it turned out.


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    Wayne, that's a beautiful DV image. I really like the subtle tones and 'glow' of the dunes.
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    very nice. DV with clouds can be magic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrahamWelland View Post
    Wayne, that's a beautiful DV image. I really like the subtle tones and 'glow' of the dunes.
    Plus one from here.

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    Wayne, excellent as usual -- magic light in the sky and dunes makes it!
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    Pass the Sauce

    You know when you trek miles to the stores to buy all the right ingredients, slave for hours over preparing the meal, and then after just one taste you know it's doomed and you have to say 'pass the sauce'....

    Happened to me yesterday. Long trek to Kingley Vale, the finest Yew forest in Europe. Cambo, SK35XL, IQ180, Gitzo Carbon, Cube, a 2000 year old tree.... the equivalent of the finest ingredients. Three LCC'd exposures for an HDR merge. Not terrible technique... a reasonably experienced chef... take it all out of the oven and... pass the sauce. Quite a lot of sauce, as you can see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tashley View Post
    Cambo, SK35XL, IQ180, Gitzo Carbon, Cube, a 2000 year old tree.... the equivalent of the finest ingredients. Three LCC'd exposures for an HDR merge.
    A cautionary tale! This is a place to share our failures too...
    Some people's best shots are not that good.

    Some people have not dared to post any pictures.

    ¿Were you thinking tooo much about the kit and the trek, and not enough about composition and lighting?

    ¿Perhaps using five shots would have given you more scope to tame the highlights and shadows?

    I have a nice large beech tree that I have to prune back to prevent it banging on my bedroom roof and window...

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    It takes considerable courage to post the failures and self-confidence as well; poor shots are only apparent when you can recognize the good ones. I like the food metaphor but would warn you that Mark Dubovoy got roasted in the forums at Luminous Landscape for comparing photography and fine wine.

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    @Dick, I did actually shoot several 5 shot HDRs but HDR Pro chokes on more than three 16bit tiffs from the 180! But the shot was doomed by the composition more than anything. I took a few other views in the forest but it's a hard place to find a spare, minimalist view because there's always a lot going on in the background. I googled for images of it today and they are pretty much all confusingly composed.. Next time I'll take a short tele and use DOF to eliminate the clutter.

    @tsjanik... roasting Mark would be a waste of a very fine photographer and essayist. But maybe if served with a fine wine the sacrifice would be worth it?
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    Just before leaving to a new project tomorrow, I wanted to share two images from last year. I can't wait to see the new icehotel, but it will be hard to be even better. Last year was amazing.
    Such a photogenic subject. This is in the north of Sweden, isn't it?

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    @Dick, I did actually shoot several 5 shot HDRs but HDR Pro chokes on more than three 16bit tiffs from the 180! But the shot was doomed by the composition more than anything. I took a few other views in the forest but it's a hard place to find a spare, minimalist view because there's always a lot going on in the background. I googled for images of it today and they are pretty much all confusingly composed.. Next time I'll take a short tele and use DOF to eliminate the clutter.
    ¿Would a bigger computer help you handle 5 shot HDR?

    You have good separation between branches due to light and shade, but it still looks a bit 2D: Blurring out the backgrounds might help.

    Using tilt, you can blur the background behind the main subject, but have it sharp elsewhere, but this might be difficult to put into practice in this type of shot.

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    The composition is quite fine, in my view. What kills the images is the impossible contrast of bright sunshine. A drizzly day would be a different story!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graham Mitchell View Post
    Such a photogenic subject. This is in the north of Sweden, isn't it?
    Yes it is in the North near Kiruna and while there are more around the world (Canada for example) the one in Sweden is based on the orginal idea and has been around for a very long time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robblakers View Post
    The composition is quite fine, in my view. What kills the images is the impossible contrast of bright sunshine. A drizzly day would be a different story!
    There is no easy solution... "flat" lighting tends to make things look ...flat, bright light gives you contrast, and, usually, depth.

    Wide angles tend to give a better rendering of depth than longer lenses.

    Ideal lighting is often bright or partially obscured sun with lots of fill-in reflectors (clouds).

    5 shot HDR might have tamed the contrast, MF post-production can enhance contrast if required.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robblakers View Post
    The composition is quite fine, in my view. What kills the images is the impossible contrast of bright sunshine. A drizzly day would be a different story!
    To be honest, much of that is down to the JPEG compression for upload: on the tiff there are very very few, small patches of pure black and the shadows all have detail. But I do agree that a bright day with some thin cloud cover would have made it smoother.

    @Dick, its a Mac Pro tower with a gazillion cores and 8gig of ram. Maybe some more RAM would help but I have found some of the current generation of NIK software rather glitchy so it might just be that. Color Effex Pro 4 sometimes saves an entire image I've been working on for ages as a black frame - but given how amateurish that Fun With Filters look is, that might be no bad thing!

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    All the great images from Death Valley prompted me to look at some of my old film shots from that area; tashely's post prompted me to post this one from 2005 (67 film camera). It was taken from Whitney Portal looking down at the Owens Valley. When I saw the sun hitting the small hill in the foreground and the tree silhouette, I thought for sure I had a winner, and yet somehow something is lacking. No real point of interest? No pleasing graphic quality? Nowhere for the eyes to go?

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    Perhaps a crop with the tree shadow in the lower right and just the bottoms of the clouds at the top? The sunlight in the foreground is beautiful!

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    I LOVE the image!!! If there had been a bit of light in the lower right hand corner (to the right of the tree) your eyes would flow around the image. I find that sometimes there is something in an image that stops that flow, in this case it is the dark matter to the right of the tree. If you were able to burn some light in there that image would really suck you in. As it is, the greenness in the valley really holds you for a minute, and the clouds push your eyes back into the mountains and eventually the tree.

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    Thanks for the comments fellows. The sunlight in the foreground was spectacular in person, although it lasted only a moment. The photo falls far short of the reality, hence my disappointment - sort of turning a silk purse into a sow's ear.

    Matt, the crop does help.

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    You know, the more I try to come up with a pleasing crop, the more I like the original. How does a print look?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher View Post
    Just before leaving to a new project tomorrow, I wanted to share two images from last year. I can't wait to see the new icehotel, but it will be hard to be even better. Last year was amazing.

    Icebar 2011 - Rm3di - 32mm - P65

    Design by Jens Thoms Ivarsson, Mats Nilsson and Jon Nilsson




    Icehotel 2011 - Rm3di - 32mm - 2 image stitch - P65

    Design by Anna Sofia Mååg




    Icehotel 2011 - Rm3di - 32mm -3 image stitch - P65

    Design by Ben Rousseau & Ian Douglas-Jones
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    Quote Originally Posted by tsjanik View Post
    All the great images from Death Valley prompted me to look at some of my old film shots from that area; tashely's post prompted me to post this one from 2005 (67 film camera). It was taken from Whitney Portal looking down at the Owens Valley. When I saw the sun hitting the small hill in the foreground and the tree silhouette, I thought for sure I had a winner, and yet somehow something is lacking. No real point of interest? No pleasing graphic quality? Nowhere for the eyes to go?

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    I too have played with crops on this and can't find anything but (to me) very marginal improvements. The scene is gorgeous, the light dynamic, the technique appears faultless. And yet, I agree with you: it doesn't fulfil its own promise. It doesn't 'not work' but it isn't 'sticky'.

    Partly I think that this is because some scenes are best looked at and remembered rather than photographed: just because it is beautiful and dramatic, doesn't guarantee a shot of lasting interest. As I know to my own cost!

    For me, a scene needs to have the above qualities and also to in some way evoke emotion or mood. It needs to say something about, for example, the nature of mountains, sky and light in general rather than just be a shot of this mountain under that sky lit by that light. If it would look great on the lid of a box of chocolates, it is a failure IMHO as wall art! I have a library full of such images :-(

    But I would add that following the 'usual rules' of foreground interest, lead-in lines, 'properly' (i.e. GND) exposed skies and tilt-acquired DOF wedges to encompass the above can so easily lead to a formulaic look that is no better.

    There's gold in them thar hills. Just try finding it though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsjanik View Post
    All the great images from Death Valley prompted me to look at some of my old film shots from that area; tashely's post prompted me to post this one from 2005 (67 film camera). It was taken from Whitney Portal looking down at the Owens Valley. When I saw the sun hitting the small hill in the foreground and the tree silhouette, I thought for sure I had a winner, and yet somehow something is lacking. No real point of interest? No pleasing graphic quality? Nowhere for the eyes to go?

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    Truly remarkable Tom! I like this version a little better.

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    I prefer the original...

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    Thanks all. It prints very well Matt, the mushy distant mountains in the on-screen jpeg have beautiful sharp detail in the print; I think Tim summed up the dilemma "It doesn't 'not work' but it isn't 'sticky' ". It's a nice image, but not one to hang on the wall. As I recall I just missed a better shot. The entire near hill was illuminated by the setting sun, but the shadow moved rapidly from the right; a moment later and the light was gone.

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    I was in Chico today, shooting flowering Almonds. I found this and could not pass it by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsjanik View Post
    I think Tim summed up the dilemma "It doesn't 'not work' but it isn't 'sticky' ". It's a nice image, but not one to hang on the wall.
    This describes about 90% of my shots.

    Some I even try hanging on the wall and if I'm sick of them in a couple of days they hit the trash and the trash icon.

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    Would love to see these in some better light.

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    The future is now. Pentax 645D and A 35mm--mine, not his.

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    Just playing with Photoshop. Pentax 645D and A 120mm Macro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vincent Goetz View Post
    I was in Chico today, shooting flowering Almonds. I found this and could not pass it by.

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    There's got to be a story with that shoe!
    Any idea what the "wood fume" on the metal label refers to - smoked almonds?

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    It was a power pole. I assumed the tags indicated that it was treated wood, and when it was last inspected. Any linemen on here?

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    A few from sunset this evening at my regular stomping grounds...

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    very nice shelby as usual :-)
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    Tunnel View, Yosemite Valley
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    Thought I'd share. DF, P65+ 150mm (100% crop)
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    I usually don't do many cityscapes or nighttime shots, but the colors in the sunset from a couple of night's ago were hard to resist. S2 and Zeiss 110/2.

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    Here's one that's more of the type of environmental/documentary style that I shoot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KurtKamka View Post
    I usually don't do many cityscapes or nighttime shots, but the colors in the sunset from a couple of night's ago were hard to resist. S2 and Zeiss 110/2.

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    Really nice.
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    Really nice.
    Plus one from me Kurt. Like the second shot very much as well.
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    Hi everyone! First images here. City experimental, natural light, as simple as it gets


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