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    Has anyone any experience comparing helicon focus with
    Zerene Stacker as to which is easier to use, creates less
    halos and other artifacts, etc.?

    Thanks!

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    Wonderful shot Gareth.
    Beautiful images Serge.
    Thanks for your comment Nathan.
    Lovely shot Paolo.
    Very cool Bill.
    Amazing work Quentin.

    Here is my last aerialist post.
    H4d-40 and 28mm HCD.

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    Wow, wow and wow, Quentin! You've motivated me to get back to stacking!

    And thank you Jeffery: IL is a day's+ drive away but I'll make the trip!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Smoking Camera View Post

    Here is my last aerialist post.
    H4d-40 and 28mm HCD.
    Fantastic shot! That red silk really works... Love this series.

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    Great work everyone, I find this thread inspirational :-)

    One last "stacked" image. This from a small village called Clovelly in Devon, England. I wanted to keep the whole image pin sharp, from the ropes in the foregound to the far path, which was impossible without stacking. This took just 3 shots a F/11, with the 28mm on the H4D-50. The file was later converted to monochrome and tinted.

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    Re: Fun with MF images

    Quentin,

    Ah Clovelly ... you make me feel somewhat homesick!

    Btw, nice shot and excellent B&W rendition.
    Ylem ...

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    Bonjour tous,
    Awsome pic.Quentin. Please could you explain "stacking" and " 3 shots at F.11. Thanks from a dummy new to MF. Cheers .

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    a shot that convinced me about Helicon stacking three shots, as I recall, blad 16mp back
    first shot focused on barrel, then a shot on intermediate wheels, then far wheels


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Smoking Camera View Post

    Here is my last aerialist post.
    H4d-40 and 28mm HCD.
    Of all posted ones in the series - i like it the best - nice shot. Only thing that is throwing me off here are leftovers of blue cloth on the right edge.

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    Not too shabby considering handheld and breezy.




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    Quote Originally Posted by The Smoking Camera View Post
    Here is my last aerialist post.
    H4d-40 and 28mm HCD.
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    I'm compelled to do more than "Like" your aerialist (red scarf) series...

    The location, color and artistry all scream out to me. Work like this makes me almost want to do more than simple landscape.

    Great job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andreleon View Post
    Bonjour tous,
    Awsome pic.Quentin. Please could you explain "stacking" and " 3 shots at F.11. Thanks from a dummy new to MF. Cheers .
    I'm not Quentin however allow me to help.

    Stacking refers to shooting the same image several times using the same setting for each except changing the focal point ever so slightly. I've taken up to 11 images when processed together show a finish image where everything is in sharp focus. The technique is sometimes called stacking. Stacking can be done with any camera that allows the photographer to manually manipulate the focusing ring of the lens. Likewise you can mount the camera on a focusing rail and move the entire camera.

    Hope this helps.

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    SergieR

    I've been meaning to take the time to actually respond instead of just "liking".

    Your recent black & white images are stunning. Setting aside, it reminds me of the 50's movies and maybe Casablanca. Stunning work.

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    Thanks again Nathan, Sergei and thank you Don for the kind words. Yes, Sergei, I need to fix that. Well I certainly wish I could shoot stunning landscapes like you, Don. I once read if you included a ballerina in any location it would take your image to a new level. I now feel the same about an aerialist. When a client first approached me about a non-paying fun shoot I was skeptical. But when she showed me the location and the performer I reconsidered. The combination of urban, nature, acrobatics, color, etc etc was too intriguing to pass up. Fortunately, it came together well.

    OK, one more photo just for fun.
    H4d-40 28mm HCD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Smoking Camera View Post
    When a client first approached me about a non-paying fun shoot I was skeptical. But when she showed me the location and the performer I reconsidered.
    And I for one am very glad you did...
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    Another portrait with the H4D-40 and the 50-110 wide open at 110mm iso 800, Arri fresnel lights... no retouch here apart from the mono conversion in silver efex pro
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    My first picture to this forum.Hope I get it right!

    I regulary visit Hainan Island for a project to photograph and document the change that is happening there. I go to the same small villages, meet same people. Try to go 2-3 times a year. Done this for almost 5 years. Next trip after a week.

    Here is a young mother, had dinner at their home a year earlier. Visited last november and was suprised to see she had a baby! Will give her this picture on my next trip.

    Taken by DF + IQ180 with 80 LS. Hand held 1/125 f 3.2

    My best shot from novemebr trip. Love to make this print bigger.

    Enjoy, Kirmo
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    Thanks Don , sure this will help . Regards.

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    Excellent photo and project, Kirmo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Landscapelover View Post

    Cancun, Mexico

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    ISO 100, f/8, 60 sec

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    Quote Originally Posted by etrump View Post
    Nice! Love this look.
    Thanks very much Ed! You make my day.

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    Auvergne Sancy

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    A photo trip in Auvergne, famous for Volcanos and Cheeses. Le Massif du Sancy, National Park and as usual for me "nice weather" !

    H4d50 Hc 50mm2


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    Quote Originally Posted by jerome View Post
    Hi !

    A photo trip in Auvergne, famous for Volcanos and Cheeses. Le Massif du Sancy, National Park and as usual for me "nice weather" !
    Hi Jerome, first off very lovely images.

    I do have a thought - have you tried these with just a wee bit of additional contrast? I'm thinking it might bring down the overall brightness while adding to the color. Just a thought...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Libby View Post
    Hi Jerome, first off very lovely images.

    I do have a thought - have you tried these with just a wee bit of additional contrast? I'm thinking it might bring down the overall brightness while adding to the color. Just a thought...

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    Thanks Don !

    I've just tried a bit more contrast. But there is a real gap between the web images (too greenish and saturated) and the original photos on CS5, I wonder if it will change anything. (I've change the second photo in fact ...).

    But it's a little better

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerome View Post
    Thanks Don !

    I've just tried a bit more contrast. But there is a real gap between the web images (too greenish and saturated) and the original photos on CS5, I wonder if it will change anything. (I've change the second photo in fact ...).

    But it's a little better
    The second image looks better. As for the first I guess I'd like to see a little more depth or punch in the green moss. Overall both are still very pleasing and it's just my thoughts. And yes it's very difficult to judge an image based solely on a web jpeg and that's why I mostly don't say much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Libby View Post
    The second image looks better. As for the first I guess I'd like to see a little more depth or punch in the green moss. Overall both are still very pleasing and it's just my thoughts. And yes it's very difficult to judge an image based solely on a web jpeg and that's why I mostly don't say much.

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    I think I need also to recalibrate my screen, the print also needs a bit more punch and usually, differences are not huge. I'll do this tomorrow and thanks again for your useful comments !

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerome View Post
    I think I need also to recalibrate my screen, the print also needs a bit more punch and usually, differences are not huge. I'll do this tomorrow and thanks again for your useful comments !
    Jerome, you are very welcome and thank you for taking my thoughts for what they were - comments.

    Regarding calibration. I have my main screen set to for a reminder every 30 days to check the calibration. I keep to this schedule unless I begin a new work process and then I'll recheck the calibration even if it had already been check a couple days ago. The dictionary has my photo when explaining being anal with my processing.

    Bonne nuit et merci encore une fois.

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    A Staten Island landscape for a change


    Clove Lakes Park by mikedotephoto, on Flickr

    Please bear with- I don't have a wide lens and I am not normally shooting landscape scenes with my leaf back

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    Done this weekend with the Leica S2.
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    Chatfield State Park, CO
    Hasselblad H4D-40 with HCD 35-90mm at 90mm
    ISO 100, f/13, 32 sec

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    Done this weekend with the Leica S2.
    Garrapata State Park south of Point Lobos? Lovely image. One of my favorite locations. Was luck to fly over this location on a Zeppelin ride over California. I will post images when I get back from Patagonia next month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by craigrudlin View Post
    Has anyone any experience comparing helicon focus with
    Zerene Stacker as to which is easier to use, creates less
    halos and other artifacts, etc.?

    Thanks!
    I used both and none of them is able to deliver the picture you would like to have without retouching.

    The results differ but I couldn't tell you which one is better as both has some flaws. But this is because the task is quite complex.

    What I do know is that retouching with Zerene is getting slower and slower after some time while Helicon Focus performance while retouching keeps stable.

    The following picture is made with Helicon and a lot of retouching. Still away from being perfect.

    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Tansey View Post
    Garrapata State Park south of Point Lobos? Lovely image. One of my favorite locations. Was luck to fly over this location on a Zeppelin ride over California. I will post images when I get back from Patagonia next month.

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    Yep, thats right. Thats the sea arch at Soberanes Point. Can't wait to see your images from a Zeppelin, that would have been awesome!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petster View Post
    I used both and none of them is able to deliver the picture you would like to have without retouching.

    The results differ but I couldn't tell you which one is better as both has some flaws. But this is because the task is quite complex.

    What I do know is that retouching with Zerene is getting slower and slower after some time while Helicon Focus performance while retouching keeps stable.

    The following picture is made with Helicon and a lot of retouching. Still away from being perfect.

    Cheers,
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    Looks pretty good to me. Perfection is unattainable in this life, but with some work I find even with complex macro subjects you can get a very good result, as you ably demonstrate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Libby View Post
    I'm not Quentin however allow me to help.

    Stacking refers to shooting the same image several times using the same setting for each except changing the focal point ever so slightly. I've taken up to 11 images when processed together show a finish image where everything is in sharp focus. The technique is sometimes called stacking. Stacking can be done with any camera that allows the photographer to manually manipulate the focusing ring of the lens. Likewise you can mount the camera on a focusing rail and move the entire camera.

    Hope this helps.

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    Excellent explanation!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Landscapelover View Post
    Thanks very much Ed! You make my day.
    I agree with Ed
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    Thanks very much Quentin! I am so excited to hear kind words from you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Libby View Post
    Jerome, you are very welcome and thank you for taking my thoughts for what they were - comments.


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    So here with a little more contrast

    Advice always very welcomed !


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    Quote Originally Posted by jerome View Post
    So here with a little more contrast

    Advice always very welcomed !

    Pop in contrast gives a more natural look imo.

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    Sandy brought me this flower as I was finishing up in the studio this afternoon; she found it laying on the ground in our neighbors yard. Image is the result of 3-stacked images processed in C1Pro and CS5. DF/P65+ Mamiya 120 mm f/11 1/125 ISO100 and my new Metz flash by way of Ken and Guy.



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    Quote Originally Posted by etrump View Post
    Pop in contrast gives a more natural look imo.
    Totally agree...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Libby View Post
    Totally agree...
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    Lovely image.

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    Lovely image.
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    Sheikh Zayed Road, Dubai

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    Stacking refers to shooting the same image several times using the same setting for each except changing the focal point ever so slightly. I've taken up to 11 images when processed together show a finish image where everything is in sharp focus. The technique is sometimes called stacking. Stacking can be done with any camera that allows the photographer to manually manipulate the focusing ring of the lens. Likewise you can mount the camera on a focusing rail and move the entire camera.
    You can also re-focus by moving the subject or the rear standard of a view camera, e.g. with a stackshot powered rail... or use a decent versatile professional camera with depth-of-field stacking ability built in, when one comes on the market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dick View Post
    You can also re-focus by moving the subject or the rear standard of a view camera, e.g. with a stackshot powered rail... or use a decent versatile professional camera with depth-of-field stacking ability built in, when one comes on the market.
    Or using a focusing rail like I did for the red flower above. Actually used 3-methods, lens focus, moving the subject itself and the rail. The first 2 were used to get close with the rail used for the final 3-shots.

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    Inspired by Don's recent postings and the fact that I too also have recently added the rather excellent Phase 120mm MF Macro to my lens collection I thought I'd post this shot taken today following an April shower.

    No fancy focus stacking sorry!

    Phase One P65+, DF, 120mm MF Macro

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    Quote Originally Posted by gerald.d View Post
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    Great shot Gerald, looks like a model town! Was this shot with the 50mm shift?

    Considering it's a night shot, I would have just nudged up the blacks levels as they are looking a bit grey.

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