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    Re: Fun with MF images, part 2: What are you shooting with that MF back?

    Wow Justin, gorgeous sunset!
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    Re: Fun with MF images, part 2: What are you shooting with that MF back?

    looks apocalyptic. good luck trying to use a neutral gray card for WB

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    Re: Fun with MF images, part 2: What are you shooting with that MF back?

    Quote Originally Posted by jmvdigital View Post
    Tim-

    Unless I missed it in the C1 vs. LR thread, I'm curious why you converted in C1 and then did pp in LR. I'm assuming you worked on a regularly processed TIF in LR (not the raw), but why? C1 will do 99% of what LR can do first, and then bring it into Photoshop to really finish it off. I wouldn't consider LR to be the ideal finishing PP workflow; it's a primary batch processor, just like C1. I would think that even after doing more tweaks in the C1>LR, that you'd need to pull it into PS to fine tune noise reduction, sharpening, and specialized local color adjustments.

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    Hiya,

    All my files end up in LR anyways, since it is my central filing system and at the heart of my backup system too. So I 'convert' P45+ files in C1, process them to 16bit TIFF and then import them into LR where I can make further adjustments in a non=destructive way that also keeps file size down. Specifically that photo of the sea with rainbow has a ND grad filter applied to the sky, and local area adjustments of saturation and contrast applied selectively elsewhere in a way that could have been done in Photoshop but would have taken longer, been less immediately easy to undo or adjust and created a larger file size!

    There are many people - and I am clearly one of them - that believe that LR can be a one stop shop for most images. Try Michael Reichman's video tutorials. They're excellent.

    Prior to LR2 I used to round-trip to PS for dodge, burn, a sharpen/upres/output sharpen routine and various other stuff. Now I do it all in LR2 and it is generally excellent at it.

    Give it a go - it's really very good. It just doesn't know how to read Phase One's native TIFFs properly!


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    Re: Fun with MF images, part 2: What are you shooting with that MF back?

    Hi,

    First image posts here.

    Hassy 500 c/m , 80mm , Trix @ 800.



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    second one...

    HB 500 c/m , 80mm, Ilford HP5.



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    Re: Fun with MF images, part 2: What are you shooting with that MF back?

    [QUOTE=tashley;60086]Hiya,

    All my files end up in LR anyways, since it is my central filing system and at the heart of my backup system too. So I 'convert' P45+ files in C1, process them to 16bit TIFF and then import them into LR where I can make further adjustments in a non=destructive way that also keeps file size down. Specifically that photo of the sea with rainbow has a ND grad filter applied to the sky, and local area adjustments of saturation and contrast applied selectively elsewhere in a way that could have been done in Photoshop but would have taken longer, been less immediately easy to undo or adjust and created a larger file size!

    There are many people - and I am clearly one of them - that believe that LR can be a one stop shop for most images. Try Michael Reichman's video tutorials. They're excellent.


    I'm with you Tim, - I love LR2 for everything EXCEPT raw conversion, where C1 does a vastly better job with Phase files. "Punch", grad filter, local adjustments, all shine in LR and can't be done in C1.

    So I too produce the best 16 bit TIFF that I can in C1 then open it in LR for the local adjustments and, often, printing.

    What we need is either LR with C1 raw conversion or C1 with LR2 local adjustments...

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    I made this portrait last week: Phase One, P45+, 120 mm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitchell View Post
    My first posting of images here. From yesterday with my new Hy6. Great Camera!
    I'm glad it all worked out. Nice image too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by emmawest72 View Post
    second one...

    HB 500 c/m , 80mm, Ilford HP5.



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    Hey Emma, those are both really really nice!

    Which back did you use?

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    Re: Fun with MF images, part 2: What are you shooting with that MF back?

    The Mamiya 150mm F3.5 AF @ F3.5. Some more here. The 150 looks be a nice lens, especially considering their bargain price on Ebay, etc.


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    Thanks John,

    Nice shots indeed and a very well conceived torture test. Thanks also for the tip about the lens - it might make a good portrait lens, don't you think?

    T

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    I assume it would, but the Mrs. adopted a new policy in regards to lens testing earlier this year...



    History has shown that this policy applies to other areas too... Fortunately we have dogs - and they love cameras, literally, and readily show their affection by licking the front element... LOL

    Seriously though, the only challenge a foresee with the Mamiya 150mm F3.5 is having enough light for sufficient DOF. F3.5 at portrait distances (say 10 to 15 feet) would most likely be too thin. F5.6 would be right (IMO) and here wasn't anywhere near that much light yesterday (at ISO 50).

    This weekend I have time to use the lens some more. It'll probably be awhile before there's a true portrait image; I need to pick up a Metz flash for some fill.

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    Re: Fun with MF images, part 2: What are you shooting with that MF back?

    The 150 3.5 is a nice lens John but at 5.6 is where it starts and reason I spent the bucks for the 150 2.8 is to get going long before 5.6 but I need the speed for other things as well.

    BTW great policy by your wife . I can't even point the camera near mine without major consequences. LOL
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    Re: Fun with MF images, part 2: What are you shooting with that MF back?

    Quote Originally Posted by John Black View Post
    I assume it would, but the Mrs. adopted a new policy in regards to lens testing earlier this year...



    History has shown that this policy applies to other areas too... Fortunately we have dogs - and they love cameras, literally, and readily show their affection by licking the front element... LOL

    Seriously though, the only challenge a foresee with the Mamiya 150mm F3.5 is having enough light for sufficient DOF. F3.5 at portrait distances (say 10 to 15 feet) would most likely be too thin. F5.6 would be right (IMO) and here wasn't anywhere near that much light yesterday (at ISO 50).

    This weekend I have time to use the lens some more. It'll probably be awhile before there's a true portrait image; I need to pick up a Metz flash for some fill.
    Cool shot and glad to see that the lens can resolve one finger at 15 feet, always a key benchmark!

    THe bokeh looks kind of aggressive though?

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    Re: Fun with MF images, part 2: What are you shooting with that MF back?

    I recognize that expression...
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    Quote Originally Posted by tashley View Post
    Cool shot and glad to see that the lens can resolve one finger at 15 feet, always a key benchmark!

    THe bokeh looks kind of aggressive though?

    t
    Part of the aggressive look you're noticing is the chromatic aberration characteristic of the 150mm f/3.5. This CA draws red and green around the fence and trees which gives the entire image a slightly more sinister look. The 150mm f/2.8 eliminates almost all of that aberration and IMO has overall a more medium-format feel to the fall-off.

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    Actually Doug, that lens was a Canon 50L F1.0 on a 5D with the image taken at F1. I have not shot a portrait-type picture with the 150mm yet. The 50L image was just a joke to show my wife's enthusiasm for lens testing. I have lots of #1 shots... which might have nothing to do with lens testing... hmmm... LOL

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    Re: Fun with MF images, part 2: What are you shooting with that MF back?

    misread your comments first time through

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    Re: Fun with MF images, part 2: What are you shooting with that MF back?

    This should probably be called "The Thin Girl"
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    Re: Fun with MF images, part 2: What are you shooting with that MF back?

    Bob try putting a shadow under her feet slightly . Looks like she is floating.
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    Re: Fun with MF images, part 2: What are you shooting with that MF back?

    OK, who is to say she was not floating?

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    OK, who is to say she was not floating?

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    Isaac Newton?

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    I like the second better for sure --- the first is an obvious chop
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    Re: Fun with MF images, part 2: What are you shooting with that MF back?

    Oh, yeah, What was I thinking (phhiit)
    I was so enamored (and tired) with the skin work that I slopped the background substitution.
    just delete it
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    Re: Fun with MF images, part 2: What are you shooting with that MF back?

    A couple with the Mamiya 80mm F2.8 on the ZD -




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    A bunch of lawyers from a local firm wanted a group shot with a difference


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flesher View Post
    And CS has a nifty little filter, "render clouds." Here is a 30 second application, and I am not proficient with it as I never use it. I suspect if one spent a few minutes they could do far better, but at least it's an idea:
    I just hate masking trees... But Little Fluffy Clouds can be interesting...

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    foto-z: I like it !

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    What's 1000 lawyers at the bottom of the sea?
    A good start.

    Graham,

    Nice shot with your great humor! Nice to see they enjoy their work, and you yours.

    Best,

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    Re: Fun with MF images, part 2: What are you shooting with that MF back?

    Well this was work but I always have fun when I shoot. Phase P25 Plus with 150mm 2.8 D . Trying to get these out quickly to client, so airbrushing will come later
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    Dang, those look good Guy --- really nice lighting!

    How fast do they go?
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    Re: Fun with MF images, part 2: What are you shooting with that MF back?

    The Turkey Sessions

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    Aptus 75s, Mamiya 645 & Zeiss 110/2









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    airbrushing will come later
    Guy,

    Apart from the 3rd photo having smudges on the windscreen, and light reflections on the wet wheels, what else would you be looking to airbrush? These look pretty good to me.

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    Jim,
    these are fun. Great!
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    Jim, WOW!!!

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    Guy,

    Apart from the 3rd photo having smudges on the windscreen, and light reflections on the wet wheels, what else would you be looking to airbrush? These look pretty good to me.
    Mostly just the tires with green grass. I used my Ranger with a Mola Demi Beauty dish in all of them for fill. BTW the ranger is great in situations like this . I put the pack right on the wet grass every time, can't say that about my feet though. jack they fly like 55mph for the gas ones. They are street legal and you need a golf cart license. Mostly used in retirement communities which Arizona is a big senior citizen state, have to be nice to those folks , I'm almost there.
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    Jim great series. Love grandma


    Just a couple more of the golf shots before i head out for a couple days to meet up with Jack to test the new Phase P65. Just wanted to add how much i really enjoy shooting MF now. Clients just love it and for me it gets me back to my roots . Spent many years shooting Hassy V with film
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    Jim, *LOVE* the informal family shots! The first group and the grandma are phenomenal!
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    I allways wondered why one would not use the own feet to move on a golf course. Nice images though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimCollum View Post
    The Turkey Sessions

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    Shot these the other night, but can't decide which composition I like better. They both have their merits I suppose. Same building in each, just a minutes apart, but the sky color changed.

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    Justine,

    I think the second is much simpler, and stronger. I find the out of focus foreground, and the trees partly out of the frame distracting in the first, whereas the second is at rest which seems like the mood of the scene. Thanks for showing.

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    Re: Fun with MF images, part 2: What are you shooting with that MF back?

    First try with the Hy6 and 54LV.


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    Too cute -- enjoy those years, they grow up fast
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    Gorgeous shot, Tom. Nice skin tones. Did you do anything special? So, how are you enjoying the system? What will you do with the Mamiya ZD?
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    Quote Originally Posted by carstenw View Post
    Gorgeous shot, Tom. Nice skin tones. Did you do anything special? So, how are you enjoying the system? What will you do with the Mamiya ZD?
    Hi Carsten,
    it took me a little time to understand the concept of the Hy6 and even a little more time to get the exposure-software doing what I wanted it to do (I use PC and the software for PC is just being released these days).
    However I feel confident that this system fits me. I like the feel of the camera, the viewfinder is really nice and I like the rotating back. I also like the more mechincal user interace of the camera. Everything (body+lenses) feels solid and for a meccnical engineer (thats what I am) its a joy.

    Frankly I think I will keep the ZD for some time. Its very different from the Hy6 system and for some occasions it might be the better system (because of its smaller size, weight and because one would draw less attention with it).
    However if after some months I feel I would not use it any more I will sell it.
    I am also interested in some side by side comparions with the Sinar back and Rollei lenses. I got it for a price where I think I will not loose much money if I hold it for some time.

    Now I wait for some good light to get the Hy6 and my 3 lenses running.
    Cheers, Tom

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    Re: Fun with MF images, part 2: What are you shooting with that MF back?

    Nothing better than a first post with a new system of a cute kid. Enjoy both of them. LOL
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    Re: Fun with MF images, part 2: What are you shooting with that MF back?

    Thanks.
    By the way: which other kid in the age of 10 month knows the difference of the shutter sound between a M8 and a M8.2 and a Nikon and a Hy6. Poor little victim. Maybe we should get a cat to protect Anna from me.
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    Re: Fun with MF images, part 2: What are you shooting with that MF back?

    So, I guess she prefers the M8.2? I will find out sometime what my daughter prefers (right now she is just 11 weeks old, and knows the sound of the M8), but the 54LV is still some time away for me. Maybe once I am moved (looking for a new apartment), it will be time to look at it again.
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    Re: Fun with MF images, part 2: What are you shooting with that MF back?

    Just playing around with some P25 images and trying a few things in C1.
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