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    Ray, the AstroTrac is really nice, I (theguywitha645d) used one. I have since side-graded and have a Vixen Polarie--I am just a sucker for small tracking mounts. I have not done much with the Polarie as of yet; the weather has not been on my side. But I am hoping to get some star time this summer. Nice to see you posting here.
    Thanks! I knew that you had an AstroTrac - such a thing stands out in a forum like this. Yeah, I weighed up the Polarie and a few others (such as the Fornax unit) before going for the AstroTrac. It was mainly the higher payload rating over the Polarie that swung it...and the compact dedicated latitude wedge option.

    I've used full-blown telescope equatorial mounts before, from a medium Vixen Super Polaris to a back-breaking Skywatcher EQ6, so the AstroTrac is feather-light and compact in comparison.

    I really, really wanted to get away from the German-equatorial style with lopsided camera positioning, counterweight bars, big battery packs, controller handsets, and cables hanging everywhere. I wanted to recover the sense of mobility, quick set up and convenience that comes with fixed-tripod astrophotography...Several of my happiest memories from the past 25 years are of hiking a short distance at night with a tripod over one shoulder and a camera bag over the other one, to get a better vantage point or darker sky for photographing a comet or a conjunction. At such times, I have experienced the purest expression of freedom and the deepest appreciation of nature.

    Anyway, before I burst into tears at the recollection of it all , I'll just say that the AstroTrac is now starting to recreate that vibe for me...with of course the new dimension of superb sky tracking.

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    When you consider this is a 20mp back (if I'm correct)it show's great tonality and detail,displaying the benefits of the Big sensor of medium format..
    Actually it is 16mb back

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    Beautiful tones in your images. Very well done. Looks like there would be lots of possibilities at this location.
    Thank you

    Yes, it is a beautiful place. I`ll get back there later with my 4x5 and 8x10 view camera.

    I only shot digital there now to get a feeling of the place before I went back there.

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    What sorcery is this?! You somehow got different clouds to move at 90 degrees to each other. Well however that came about, it looks amazing.


    BTW did you notice the Pleiades star cluster (aka the Seven Sisters) on the left hand side of your photo? Just at the junction between a clear gap and a cloud bank. Since they are tilting upwards, I can tell that the camera was facing east-south-east when you took this.

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    What sorcery is this?! You somehow got different clouds to move at 90 degrees to each other. Well however that came about, it looks amazing.


    BTW did you notice the Pleiades star cluster (aka the Seven Sisters) on the left hand side of your photo? Just at the junction between a clear gap and a cloud bank. Since they are tilting upwards, I can tell that the camera was facing east-south-east when you took this.

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    Thanks very much Ray! It's only 60-sec exposure. I agree the clouds were crazy!
    Thanks for pointing out the stars. I thought it was artifacts and am glad I didn't delete them.
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    I posted this image once before in a different incarnation (4:3). Someone wants this in a panoramic version. I like this better than the original; however, to produce this version I had to use content-aware-scale. It works very well on this image, but somehow makes me uncomfortable, so I'm curious if it would trouble others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Landscapelover View Post

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    Living where I do, I have seen clouds at different elevations moving in different directions, but this image really captures the confusion of such weather. It might illustrate why it causes uneasiness too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsjanik View Post
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    Living where I do, I have seen clouds at different elevations moving in different directions, but this image really captures the confusion of such weather. It might illustrate why it causes uneasiness too!

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    Thanks Tom for your explanation. Pramote

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    I posted this image once before in a different incarnation (4:3). Someone wants this in a panoramic version. I like this better than the original; however, to produce this version I had to use content-aware-scale. It works very well on this image, but somehow makes me uncomfortable, so I'm curious if it would trouble others.
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    We'd never know that it had been 'augmented' unless you'd said so. I think that it's perfectly acceptable to use content aware scale, image reversal or the warp tool to make an image interesting. It's art, not documentary, so I'd say that if it looks good, why the heck not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrahamWelland View Post
    We'd never know that it had been 'augmented' unless you'd said so. I think that it's perfectly acceptable to use content aware scale, image reversal or the warp tool to make an image interesting. It's art, not documentary, so I'd say that if it looks good, why the heck not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrahamWelland View Post
    We'd never know that it had been 'augmented' unless you'd said so. I think that it's perfectly acceptable to use content aware scale, image reversal or the warp tool to make an image interesting. It's art, not documentary, so I'd say that if it looks good, why the heck not.
    OK, works for me.

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    I posted this image once before in a different incarnation (4:3). Someone wants this in a panoramic version. I like this better than the original; however, to produce this version I had to use content-aware-scale. It works very well on this image, but somehow makes me uncomfortable, so I'm curious if it would trouble others.
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    Photography is a game of illusions. Part of that game are the rules each photographer sets for himself. Personally, I would not manipulate an image that way--I find the magic is in what is there, not what I can make (naturally, there is a whole bunch of changes I will do to color and contrast, but hypocrisy is really the oldest philosophy). But also, I don't really care what other photographers limit themselves to and enjoy whatever they want to do. You only have yourself to please.
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    Thanks very much Ray! It's only 60-sec exposure. I agree the clouds were crazy!
    Thanks for pointing out the stars. I thought it was artifacts and am glad I didn't delete them.
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    great image!

    60-sec exposure at dawn/night or during the day with a ND (10?) filter ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by edouard View Post
    great image!

    60-sec exposure at dawn/night or during the day with a ND (10?) filter ?
    You will not see stars during the day. Or to be more accurate, no more than one. That is a night shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shashin View Post
    Photography is a game of illusions. Part of that game are the rules each photographer sets for himself. Personally, I would not manipulate an image that way--I find the magic is in what is there, not what I can make (naturally, there is a whole bunch of changes I will do to color and contrast, but hypocrisy is really the oldest philosophy). But also, I don't really care what other photographers limit themselves to and enjoy whatever they want to do. You only have yourself to please.
    I have the dissenting voice in my head too, which is why I asked the question. It might be worth mentioning the particulars of this image. In the full image there are five rocks, but each is really too small in the whole scene, so the image needs cropping (I used the longest lens I had available at the time and there was no chance to revisit this scene). One rock on the left was quite far from the others and has simply been cropped from the image. That left four rocks, not a good number for this image. To balance the expanse on the left side I needed to remove the fourth rock on the far right. My cloning skills are not good enough to remove it so I cropped and used scaling. I donít hesitate to crop a file; I have no reluctance to clone out undesirable elements (wires, litter, etc.). I would have had no hesitation to have physically removed the rock, but somehow scaling seemed a new level of manipulation although it is in fact equivalent and less work. Itís a slippery slope, but this print is making someone happy and as Graham said ďitís art, not documentaryĒ. So I'm OK with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shashin View Post
    You will not see stars during the day. Or to be more accurate, no more than one. That is a night shot.
    ... I can't "resolve" the stars, my screen is too dirty! ;-) thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by edouard View Post
    great image!

    60-sec exposure at dawn/night or during the day with a ND (10?) filter ?
    Thanks very much edouard! It was at night ~ 8-9 PM. The beach was located in front of the hotel, therefore, the water got lots of light from the spotlight. I probably use the GND filter but reverse it with the dark side downward.
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    Testing out my new Mamiya 300mm F4.5 APO brand new from Japan

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    [QUOTE=tsjanik;508481]I like this better than the original; however, to produce this version I had to use content-aware-scale. It works very well on this image, but somehow makes me uncomfortable, so I'm curious if it would trouble others.
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    Tom, I think what you have done is quite all right as others have said. Your presentation of the scene can be as wild or conservative as you choose, and as art, you have free reign to depict things as you wish. It's a very nice image by the way. My photographic endeavors tend to be of a documentary style where I want to show a particular place or natural process and therefore I don't want to change things or if I do, then conservatively. If another person stands where I was at - they would see that same scene. I will get rind of leaves, some small stones, branches, and such to improve the image. I'll also use warp and other transform tools occasionally to nudge a composition into place. I try to do these things with care not to overdo it, but I use them all the time. It all comes down to the individual. There are those that are outraged by any form of manipulation suggesting that that makes the image impure. The only pure thing is actually being out there feeling the breeze, the warmth, the cold, the sweat, and rain, bugs, seeing the sun, stars, moon and clouds arc across the sky, experience the day change from night to day - day to night. Thats whats pure.
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    To quote Shashin: Photography is a game of illusions.

    For me, words are symbols of symbols.
    Pictures is just symbols, one step closer to the interpreters own experience of the seen.
    But when I hold up the picture for others to see, then I loose almost all control of what the others choose to see.
    The illusion is that I bring the content to the viewer, but I only bring a framework for the viewer to project his or her interpretation on.

    But, if we feel that we need to fully control what the viewer "see", then we maybe should just take "forensic" picture,
    where we claim that nothing is altered, that it is the true reality we present to the viewer.

    I cant do that, I must give free space for the viewer to fill in their own interpretation.
    For me it is more important with an emotional response to my picture rather than an verbal response, from the viewer.
    Not to intellectualize and verbalise in the first moment of seeing, as a protection, but to actually dare to react to the seen, to feel.

    But that is me, what I must do. It demands nothing of you, how you chose to work with your pictures. That is between you and your "God".

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    I'm not a run and gun kind of photographer. Slow and methodical for better or worse. This is where I "took my stand" this particular morning. I found a composition I liked, and as the darkness gave way to dawn I took a few shots. This was over a year ago and I was reluctant at the time to use the higher ISO's. Only being able to go up to 30 seconds (without the camera doing it's dark frame noise exposure) my apertures were too large to get good complete focus. So my first images - as the clouds started to light up are messed up. As it got brighter, the clouds behind me were really coming to life. I took a series of photos from this basic location, but behind me. Then the entire sky lit up a pinkish orange and I was able to return to my original composition and only get off a couple shots before the clouds almost completely faded away. The pano here was really an afterthought. The light seemed gone and I did the pano as more of a practice exercise than anything. It turned out much better than I anticipated and I'm happy with it. Spent over a half hour afterward looking for the small plastic X-sync cap that had fallen off. That tiny thing blended in so well, But I found it!

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    Another of the series of Lauren I think this is one of my most favorite photographs that I've ever taken..


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    Love the colors through the last image!

    Shot this at the beach with the HC 150 wide open with a profoto strobe as fill

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsjanik View Post
    I posted this image once before in a different incarnation (4:3). Someone wants this in a panoramic version. I like this better than the original; however, to produce this version I had to use content-aware-scale. It works very well on this image, but somehow makes me uncomfortable, so I'm curious if it would trouble others.
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    What? Content-aware scale deployed by a respected medium format landscape photographer?! Click here for appropriate sound effect.

    ...Actually it's fine by me!

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    Tom...It's just me. I truly admire your pictures. They've always showed me the beauty of nature. I can hear the sound of the waves and smell of ocean in your pictures. With your talent and dedication, you don't really need any special effects.
    Please do it to please yourself, not others.
    The picture looks very nice though.
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    My first attempt at stacking. Four shots....
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    Quote Originally Posted by ondebanks View Post
    What? Content-aware scale deployed by a respected medium format landscape photographer?! Click here for appropriate sound effect.

    ...Actually it's fine by me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Landscapelover View Post
    Tom...It's just me. I truly admire your pictures. They've always showed me the beauty of nature. I can hear the sound of the waves and smell of ocean in your pictures. With your talent and dedication, you don't really need any special effects.
    Please do it to please yourself, not others.
    The picture looks very nice though.
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    Thank you both, those are quite the compliments from members of this forum.

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    It is always good to try to be clear about what I mean when I try to explain what I mean
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    Your picture is for me filled with emotional content and not cognitive content.
    So I think you have made a very good conversion that works well for me.

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    I posted this image once before in a different incarnation (4:3). Someone wants this in a panoramic version. I like this better than the original; however, to produce this version I had to use content-aware-scale. It works very well on this image, but somehow makes me uncomfortable, so I'm curious if it would trouble others.
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    Moonie River in South West Queensland.
    IQ180 645DF 55mm LS lens. 6 images merged - 3 for foreground and 3 for background.
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    Utterly gorgeous Malmac! Like something out of the Lord of the Rings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by malmac View Post

    Moonie River in South West Queensland.
    IQ180 645DF 55mm LS lens. 6 images merged - 3 for foreground and 3 for background.

    Wow This is really nice, beautiful

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    Being a real Lord of the Rings fan since the early 1970's - I see that as a real compliment.

    This area is usually a very dry part of Queensland, but they have had recent rain and flooding so the river is actually running and there is a lot of bright green grass - I pulled back the saturation so the colours wern't so jarring.

    Phil, really appreciate the compliment.

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    I have not done B&W in close to forty years. But I really like this.
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    WOW! Fantastic capture.

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