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    first session whit my "new" h3d2 31 & 80mm 2.8 hc
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    Re: Fun with MF images

    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne Fox View Post
    In Kauai for a couple of weeks. Brought the Arca and left the DF. Missing the flexibility and faster shooting style, but getting some nice things. Here's a couple of my favorites so far.


    Arca with Rodenstock 40mm, (2 horizontal shot stitch, one with 5 stops split ND), 1/2 sec at f/16, ISO 35
    This one is masterful Wayne. Did you change the focus for the second shot used in the stitch?

    I've considered trying that technique, i.e. sort of a combination of stitching and focus stack, but haven't yet.

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    One from today... H4D-40 HC150

    Sun behind subject concrete retaining wall behind me as reflector... bloody big reflector..

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    And a 4shot stitch
    H4D-40 HC150

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    This one is masterful Wayne. Did you change the focus for the second shot used in the stitch?

    I've considered trying that technique, i.e. sort of a combination of stitching and focus stack, but haven't yet.

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    The 40mm had plenty of depth of field for this shot. I'm not really close to any of the rocks (I'm standing on the edge, nothing in front of me except of a 30 foot drop to rocks below)

    However, I have done that on occasion and it can work. Often the forground shot needs a different focus as well as a different exposure, so I've done stitches like that. In this case I needed to hold the sky back and it was pretty much all on the right exposure. Often I find it's easier to throw on the split ND and blend that rather than trying to blend two different exposures. I find pulling detail back from areas the filter affected when possible results in less work and a more natural blend.

    With the Arca I was able to recalibrate the focus mechanism so it goes past the 0 point, which allowed me to get infinity tack sharp. After calibrating each lens I created a spreadsheet where I could plug in all the Arca data for focus, enter the new number I arrived at for each lens for infinity wide open (for example my 23mm requires me to go past the 0 all the way to 30). The spreadsheet applies all the offsets (including compensating for those that need to go below 0). I then stopped each lens down to f/16 and shot tests to see which number on the dial was where I lost acceptable sharpness at infinity, this becomes my main hyperfocal setting. All of those ended up in an iPhone formatted PDF which now resides in iBooks on my phone. Instantly available (unless my battery dies). The hyperfocal setting is also on the side of each lens.

    When I need to focus closer, I do that manually, first with a loupe on the ground glass, then fine tuning with live view (I have Vari ND filter I can slip on the front quickly which makes this easer). If I need to focus stack, I focus on the close point, then focus slightly closer for good measure, and break the remaining down by how far I need to go to get to the hyperfocal number I've calculated. With the Arca this is very easy because the focus mechanism is so fine you end up turning it a long way.

    Here's a shot of a "sacred forest" found inland on Kauai, part of a Hindu monastery. 9 shot focus stack taken with the Rodenstock 150.


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    Re: Fun with MF images

    Quote Originally Posted by paolo d.j. View Post


    first session whit my "new" h3d2 31 & 80mm 2.8 hc
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    Very nice and you might consider posting this in the next D800 vs. MFDB thread.

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    Re: Fun with MF images

    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne Fox View Post
    The 40mm had plenty of depth of field for this shot. I'm not really close to any of the rocks (I'm standing on the edge, nothing in front of me except of a 30 foot drop to rocks below) ....................

    Wonderful, I can see why it's called a sacred forest.
    Thanks for the detailed reply, focus stacking and stitching is a technique I will try.

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    Re: Fun with MF images

    When I need to focus closer, I do that manually, first with a loupe on the ground glass, then fine tuning with live view (I have Vari ND filter I can slip on the front quickly which makes this easer). If I need to focus stack, I focus on the close point, then focus slightly closer for good measure, and break the remaining down by how far I need to go to get to the hyperfocal number I've calculated. With the Arca this is very easy because the focus mechanism is so fine you end up turning it a long way.



    HI Wayne
    I am interested in your comment "(I have Vari ND filter I can slip on the front quickly which makes this easer)"
    I have the Schnieder Vari ND and have step up rings on my tech lens - but "slip on" is not a term I would use. -- Please share
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    Shashin,

    One of the most beautiful aspects of photography is its ability to transcend cultural diversity, politics, and language, simply by our natural, instinctive state of mind.

    When you introduce a contentious argument to a debatable topic, it takes away from this forum as a place that offers a respite from the onslaught of political agenda and media.

    While opinions shape the fabric of who we are as individuals...i'd rather just look at your photographs.

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    Amen to that!

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    Johnny, I see. Well, I am glad that photography allows us not to share our opinions and experiences. Do you apply that to Graham's post as well? I am sorry that my words prevent you from looking at the photographs here.

    I take it that this means you will not come into the MFD forum and bash MFD--speaking of debatable and contentious arguments.

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    If it relates to photography and my indisputable experience with MFD, i'll be happy to share.

    One's relationship to a photograph is unique and personal. Another's commentary could never influence that, so no need to be sorry.

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    If you can comment on topics raised in the forum, then so can I. I don't think I am in violation of the letter or spirit of the TOS. And as you pointed out, our relationship to our photography is unique and personal and for me it goes beyond photography itself. If I have personally offended Graham, I apologize--it was not my intension. While his post inspired mine, I can separate the man from the issue. I have a hard time separating my photography of the natural world and the natural world itself--one inspires the other. I don't think you can talk about art as if it was divorced from the world. And to say that the environment and issue surrounding that have nothing to do with photographers that photograph the natural world, well, lets just say, how can you not care for what you love?

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    Wait, what? I'm just saying let's keep political agendas out of the forum.
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    Next from Maldives

    S2 + S-180/3.4 @f/4
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    Credo 80 Cambo AE Rodi 28 (Galway, Ireland)
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    Achromatic 260, Techno, Rodi 90 (Galway, Ireland)
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    Re: Fun with MF images

    There is a log right next to the trail at Pictured Rocks that has all kinds of fungi growing from it. I passed this log for years going back and forth to the sand dunes at the park. It wasn't until after my son took a few good shots with his super-zoom that I really took notice. On the last day of my last trip there last year, with overcast skies, I tried my luck. I have two or three more that might be nice, but these are probably the best.

    Both with Pentax 645D, 120mm-A. Fungi Forest - 7 image stack, ISO 100, f/19, 2.5 sec each. Multiplicity and Psycho - 6 image stack, ISO 100, f/19, 10 - 20 sec each. The time difference is probably (can't remember) from removing the polarizer and getting more reasonable exposure times. Call me crazy, but I have B+H polarizers living on each of my lenses. If I have to, I'll remove them, but then they go right back on.

    While I was there and set up, the overcast skies erupted with an intense and fierce rain. The weather sealing on the 645D held up well.

    Rick
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    A Pano from a lookout near the Remarkable's ski field, Queenstown NZ



    Shot with P1 645DF+, IQ140 & SK 80mm
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    In Poipu (south shore) for the rest of the trip, surfs higher here since it's summer. Unfortunately a couple of spots I wanted to shoot on the north shore didn't work out because the surf action just isn't high enough. It's hard to find a location where you can get the surf in front of the sun on this side in the summer, but shortly after sunset, you can shoot about any direction and get some OK skies. Had to composite 2 shots to get what I was after here, showing the waves coming in as well as the water rushing off the rocks.


    Arca Rm3di/IQ180 with Rodenstock 40mm, 1 sec at f/16, ISO 35, 5 stops of Split ND

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    first pic achromatic 260 on cambo AE 32 Rodi
    Second H4d 40 28 mm
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    Re: Fun with MF images

    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne Fox View Post
    In Kauai for a couple of weeks. Brought the Arca and left the DF. Missing the flexibility and faster shooting style, but getting some nice things. Here's a couple of my favorites so far.
    Not letting your "handicap" hold you down...

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    Last week I was up in the Northern Door County area with my son. He's been a photo companion of mine since being a toddler. At 17, he rarely comes with me any more, having more pressing teenage necessities. Because we wanted to check out a business that's in line with his career aspirations, he tagged along. In the old days he would preoccupy himself with throwing stones, finding bugs, or frogs, or snakes. Now he just plugs in the ear buds and he's lost in his music. I mention all this because the following day I received a call from Newport Park that my son's wallet was found and turned in. Seems he took out his wallet to get at the iPod and left the wallet behind. So, another trip to Newport for me, and a request, to look for his missing cell phone. Oh boy. So after retrieving the wallet, I hiked our route again, calling his phone at all the photo stops hoping to find it. No such luck.

    About the photos: All with Pentax 645D, Pentax 645-A 120mm and 645-A 35mm.

    Shine - Trying to find compositions that utilize the 120mm and found this. Was about 45 minutes before sunset, with the sun behind some clouds. Increased the ISO to 400 to get better depth of field with a faster shutter speed. f/16, 1/60 sec. Focused at the base of the main reeds. Backgroud is a bit soft, and unfortunately so is the very near foreground.

    Hang'n Out - I processed this for a Black and White, but could not get it to work. Switched back to a color version and it came together rather nicely. 35mm, ISO 100, f/16, 15 sec.

    Reach - Same trees as can be seen on the right side of Hang'n Out. Two shot hand blended HDR using masks. Tried processing this over and over again until I got to this. 35mm, ISO 100, 10sec and 2.5 sec, f/13 (should have used f/16 because near cliff rocks a bit soft).

    Lakeside Quiet - One shot. 35mm, f/16, 70 sec, Lee 2 stop soft grad on an angle, polarizer turned slightly - but still got the dreaded over polarized blotch in the sky that I mostly got fixed in processing.

    Last note of interest: My wife found the "lost" cellphone in my sons shorts pocket when doing laundry. Teenagers!!!!!!!!!!
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    Hello Rick,
    Your images are fantastic, I especially like the fungus...great eye, but they are all quite beautiful.
    Thanks for sharing the images and the funny story as well, it brings back memories of the not so distant past.

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    Thank you Douglas. I enjoy telling a story such as this. I'm sure my boy, great kid by the way, is like so many others. He's also quite honest in his opinions of my photographs and I value that. He knows the types of photos I go after, and he has actually found many of the shots that I've photographed. Soon he'll be starting his own life and our forays into the wilds will be quite limited.

    Thanks again Douglas. I appreciated the comments.

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    Re: Fun with MF images

    Quote Originally Posted by fmueller View Post
    Not letting your "handicap" hold you down...
    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Wayne, it does not appear you've left anything necessary behind

    Very nice!
    thanks. I'm finding the tech camera much more enjoyable than I did the first time I tried it, and definitely getting much better results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnygoesdigital View Post
    Wait, what? I'm just saying let's keep political agendas out of the forum.
    I have no political agenda. You seem to, but I have made a thread over in the Sunset Bar if you want to keep going...

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    Weather in the middle of North America can be quite dramatic. An approaching front taken on US 90 through Wyoming.


    _IGP2647 by tsjanik47, on Flickr
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    Fabulous skies Tom. It's giving me the urge for an epic road trip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WildRover View Post
    Fabulous skies Tom. It's giving me the urge for an epic road trip.

    Rick
    Thanks, I've never been on a road trip I didn't enjoy. Take any opportunity.

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    One more from the series on US 90, just before the **** hit the fan.


    _IGP2677 by tsjanik47, on Flickr
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    Re: Fun with MF images

    Tom, from the last two images, which are really great, they are also kind of indicating this is not your usual light. I find how light can be very different when you go to new places fascinating. When I went to Tibet, it took some time to come to terms with 4,000m less atmosphere above me, even though I was used to working at 3,000m in the Japanese Alps.

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    Will:

    You're correct about my usual light and I agree that light in other locations can be remarkably different.
    I live in the NE US, as do you. Our light typically is from cloudy skies with a dynamic range of + 2ev. OK, I'm exaggerating, but we just don't get the same skies (light) as the western states. In my travels, the most remarkable light I have seen is in New Zealand. Beautiful clouds, rain, dramatic light with crystal clear air.

    Tom

    I might add that my usual technique is not to shoot from a moving car either! It wasn't safe to stop. A testament to the 645D, you can even use it handheld from the passenger seat at 70 mph and get a useable photo
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    Quote Originally Posted by WildRover View Post
    Reach - Same trees as can be seen on the right side of Hang'n Out. Two shot hand blended HDR using masks. Tried processing this over and over again until I got to this. 35mm, ISO 100, 10sec and 2.5 sec, f/13 (should have used f/16 because near cliff rocks a bit soft).
    Great story and images - I really like "Reach" - need to learn more about the making process you used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shashin View Post
    I have no political agenda. You seem to, but I have made a thread over in the Sunset Bar if you want to keep going...


    Most photographers have a profound connection to the natural world - the luminescence cannot be ignored, it's what motivates us to document these precious landscapes to bring awareness or quiet introspection. Your input is not trivial, you're obviously very passionate about many things, we're artists, how can we not be?
    I have no agenda. To form a conclusion about someone or something is not without fault, but instead, view their photography and their interpretation of their natural world because now we're speaking the same language.
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    Finally,

    I get to actually use my H25 in its native environment: the studio. No more walking around the orchard with my laptop in my backpack...

    And man it kicks butt.

    One strobe.


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    Nice - easy to forget just how good this stuff and perhaps more importantly has been for many years! Sure, an IQ back has better usability and features plus arguably even better DR but the backs have always been fabulous with color and tone.

    I was considering selling my P25+ when I get my IQ260 but images like these remind me why I really shouldn't.

    Ylem ...

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    Re: Fun with MF images

    Quote Originally Posted by tsjanik View Post
    One more from the series on US 90, just before the **** hit the fan.


    _IGP2677 by tsjanik47, on Flickr
    Tone down the highlights on the left and this wonderful image could be a classic. I love the tonality and glow of the road against the ominous sky.

    Very nice!
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    Great story and images - I really like "Reach" - need to learn more about the making process you used.
    Thanks Swissblad.

    I'm learning this stuff and I'm no photoshop expert. Most of what I post, I'd like to change this or that or something. I think for example that Hang'n out is way overboard saturated. What was I thinking.

    As for Reach, I used an exposure for the sky and let the trees go to silhouette. Then another that had the trees and rocks exposed well but the sky was completely washed out. I processed each in lightroom to get the best rendition for the sky in one and the foreground in the other. Then to photoshop.

    Went; files - scripts - load files into stacks. This is where I had to do things over and over again. Remember, I'm no expert. I alternated between having one or the other on top and which one I would mask. Anyway, I used the channels pallet (window?) to use the blue channel to make the mask on the overexposed shot. The blue channel seemed to make the most restrictive mask. So, click on the channel you want (blue), then Load it - click the round circle of dots icon which loads the channel. Go to the Layers pallet (window?) and click on the little icon button on the bottom that will create a vector mask. There you go. When you get the marching ants you can control/command H to hide the ants. The selection is and will remain active so when your done, go control/command D to deselect. If you forget, it can screw you up. I set up my workspace to have both the layers pallet and the channels pallet open at the same time.

    After masking and getting the two (or more) files together, then you can do your normal adjustments to finish processing your image.

    I use Tony Kuyper's TK-Actions. Tony Kuyper Photography Very much worth trying. Sean Bagshaw has a set of videos that explains nicely how to use the actions. The Complete Guide to Luminosity Masks Also valuable is Ian Plants video series. Ian Plant Dreamscapes Nature Photography Workshops Books Instruction I have the tutorials and videos on my iPad and can access them as I'm working on a photo and get stuck. It's also nice away from the computer and if I have time I can review things wherever I'm at.

    Hope I didn't make things more confusing. Again - remember - I'm no expert. I probably said things wrong, but I gave it a shot.

    Good luck.

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    Re: Fun with MF images

    Here's one I just got done. No over-saturation this time.

    Pentax 645D, 35mm-A, ISO 100, f/13, 1/30 sec.
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    Re: Fun with MF images

    Quote Originally Posted by GrahamWelland View Post
    Tone down the highlights on the left and this wonderful image could be a classic. I love the tonality and glow of the road against the ominous sky.

    Very nice!
    Thanks Graham. You're quite right about toning down the left side.

    Tom

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    Quote Originally Posted by WildRover View Post
    Hope I didn't make things more confusing. Again - remember - I'm no expert. I probably said things wrong, but I gave it a shot.

    Good luck.

    Rick
    Thanks for the detailed reply, Rick.

    Will give it a try.

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    hasselblad h5, hts, 35 mm, 5 nd

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    hasselblad h5, hts, 35 mm

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    Quote Originally Posted by davegrady1 View Post
    A stitched Pano, from a lookout on the way up to Remarkable's ski field Queenstown, NZ



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    Lovely - would a larger view be possible

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    Taken from the appropriately named Going to the Sun road through Glacier National Park


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne Fox View Post
    Wayne, this is wonderful ... well frankly many shots in this thread are wonderful, this is even wonderfullerrer!

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    Achromatic 260, Techno, Rodi 90 (Galway, Ireland)
    Another image that deserves more than a 'like'. So peaceful and serene.

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    Kind of ordinary. S2+70mm

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