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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    Looks like somebody's going to be having some fun
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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flesher View Post
    Looks like somebody's going to be having some fun
    YEP!
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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    The following images were all shot this morning using my Cambo RS1000. The images were either f/11 or f/8. I kept the camera in place while I changed lens. No post processing other than LLC have been made (with the exception of the 120 as I failed to get a LLC).

    I did this exercise mainly so I could see the differences in the lens. One of the little things I found out today is that I really can't shift the 24mm any more than 5mm.

    24mm:

    35mm:

    72mm:

    120mm:


    That's all for today!

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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    Thanks Jack, Henry and David. The title of this thread is FUN, and I'm having my share!
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    Shot several wanna be models and actresses today. Male model
    Photography is all about experimentation and without it you will never learn art.

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    ^ Lots of character. Looks like he starred in a 70s TV show

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    Was trying to get some drama out of him. Hard when there inexperienced
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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    Very Nice, but don't forget to clean your sensor, you have a black spot up left

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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Creek View Post
    YEP!
    How is the edge sharpness on that 24mm, Don?

    That coverage is really tempting ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Shot several wanna be models and actresses today. Male model
    He must be going for that Starsky look, but, 30 years too late!

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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    Don, the processing on those first two images is smokin'!

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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    I didn't spend too much time on these as the intent was to see what each one looked like compared to the other. It was calm when I started shooting and turned windy towards the end so I now have a major cleaning job to do in the morning with the lens and sensor.

    None of the images have been cropped, just resized to fit here. Not too sure of the sharpness of the 24 on the edges; I'll have to check in the morning and see. Never liked shooting that much with center filters but decided after researching that the 24 needed it so got it. The 120 is interesting as it's the newer shorter barrel with a spacer that fits on the back.

    I'm playing around with the groundglass and focusing hood and can tell that I like that. The thought process on this was to be able to use filters better than hit or miss. I used the ground glass to setup a shot at an old corral this afternoon and must say it was nice to see what I was doing so I have this feeling that I'll be using this more often than what I had expected.

    The plan is to sit down soon and attempt to put all my thoughts on paper (that's scary) regarding the RS and the 4 lens I now have and post that on my blog.

    Mark - Let me check on the 24mm image and I'll get back with you regarding the corners; I can also send you the file if you'd like to see for yourself.

    The images were taken on Mt Lemmon Road which is an old forest road that leads up the back-way to Mt Lemmon. Primitive road with all the warnings however you still see the occasional little car trying to make it.

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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    Quote Originally Posted by jmvdigital View Post
    Don, the processing on those first two images is smokin'!
    Thank you - I had fun working on it. Actually like the way the 2nd one is cropped.

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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Creek View Post
    The following images were all shot this morning using my Cambo RS1000. The images were either f/11 or f/8. I kept the camera in place while I changed lens. No post processing other than LLC have been made (with the exception of the 120 as I failed to get a LLC).

    I did this exercise mainly so I could see the differences in the lens. One of the little things I found out today is that I really can't shift the 24mm any more than 5mm.

    Don
    Don,

    It is difficult to make judgment from web size images but I get a sense that although the 24mm gives a more dramatic view, the 35mm produces a more "believable" wide angle image. Makes one feels he was at the scene.

    Thanks for doing this comparison, the images really help if someone is shopping for those lenses and cannot afford to buy all 4 in one go.

    Have fun.

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    Memorial Day weekend here in the U.S. Many thanks to any and all who have put on a soldier's uniform during their lifetime.

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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry Goh View Post
    Don,

    It is difficult to make judgment from web size images but I get a sense that although the 24mm gives a more dramatic view, the 35mm produces a more "believable" wide angle image. Makes one feels he was at the scene.

    Thanks for doing this comparison, the images really help if someone is shopping for those lenses and cannot afford to buy all 4 in one go.

    Have fun.
    Henry

    I agree, web images just don't tell the whole story but remember the image shot with the 24mm had a center filter so that has to add something to the overall "view".
    I can see times when the 24 will be the "go to" lens while other times the 35 might be a better fit.

    And just to clarify something - the RS came with the 35mm and I picked up the 72 about a month later when I found a smoking deal. The 24 and 120 along with the groundglass (this was what I called my Santa's List) were bought only due to the sale of my Phase body and all my Mamiya glass, otherwise it would have been piecemeal with the 120 being the next one. The weird way of thinking is I figure the 24 replaces my 28...

    I hope to some crops of the corners to show the resolution a little better. I'll put all this information in a separate thread to take it off this one. I feel I'm hogging this thread and for that I apologize.

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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

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    Memorial Day weekend here in the U.S. Many thanks to any and all who have put on a soldier's uniform during their lifetime.

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    Kurt - Nicely done, thank you

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    I like super-wides, but I find that they require large prints to be effective. If you are making a photo with a super-wide but then showing the results either small or on the screen, there is a conflict in the viewing angle which I personally find it hard to bridge.
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    Contax 645 with 45-90mm, studio flashes




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    Quote Originally Posted by carstenw View Post
    I like super-wides, but I find that they require large prints to be effective. If you are making a photo with a super-wide but then showing the results either small or on the screen, there is a conflict in the viewing angle which I personally find it hard to bridge.
    Carsten

    I like super-wides as well and use them here in the Southwest. I think Monument Valley was meant to be captured either with a super-wide or long lens and have done both, likewise the Grand Canyon. I could have used a super-wide lens in the Sequoia's or Redwoods but only had a 35mm; my next trip to the Redwoods will be shot with the 24.

    As far as printing goes I agree with you there as well and regularly print 32x28 and panoramas 30x60 and larger.

    It is often very difficult to convey the feeling or meaning of a large print image on a computer monitor. Actually it's difficult to convey just about any image on a web image.

    What I like the most about having the 24mm in my kit is now I have it to use when I need it. While I might name my lens they are nevertheless still just tools in the bag to suite the particular need at the time.

    Hope this didn't come across too cranky as I writing this while waiting for the first cup of coffee to kick in.

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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    Evgeny: That's sharper than life! Which back?
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    Evgeny, very nice! Sharp, but soft tones.

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    Evgeny - Really like the eyes!

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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    Classic and almost nothing

    H3DII 31 , 120 mm

    In fact I mainly use outdoors the 28 mm and the 120 mm now, I find thoses lenses so good.

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    Jerome, I *really* like that. I am a big fan of the "found details" in life.

    Evgeny, really nice portrait. I find that her skin looks a touch waxy in the crop though. Is that due to development settings or just the way they come out? Is that a Phase back?

    Don, I have no clue what you mean with cranky. I couldn't see what you were referring to there. On a different note, have you ever tried projecting your images to see what they would look like? I am not sure what the best route would be, but a full 1080p projector would be an interesting start. I would love to see some of your stuff projected large. The small images which fit on my laptop screen really don't convey the majesty of some of these images. I wonder if you could make free slideshows and make more print sales that way?
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    Thanks!
    I shot this with Aptus 65 and added portrait fixer + unsharp in CS4. I need to learn one day how to process portraits in CS4 in more professional way.

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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    playing around with zoomify and an Aptus 75s/Mamiya 645/80mm lens


    zoomify image

    nifty little app that allows posting of full size images without fear of having them 'taken'

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    Garapatta Beach, early morning. Mamiya 150mm lens, Aptus 75s



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    Lovely image Jim!
    I like the composition and the subdued colours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimCollum View Post
    Garapatta Beach, early morning. Mamiya 150mm lens, Aptus 75s


    Jim - Very nice! I like the colors in the rock

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    Love the mood in this photo Jim! Glad to see you are still putting the Aptus 75s to good use.


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    Garapatta Beach, early morning. Mamiya 150mm lens, Aptus 75s



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    I think I finally have a colour version I prefer to the b&w version. Your thoughts?

    I really like it, but I wonder what a b/w version that's more "silvery" would look like. I also have this nagging want to see a b/w where the texture of the freckles is wwaaayyyy more pronounced.

    Something simulating a blue filter on b/w film might do the trick.

    Still... fantastic stuff.

    ETA: So... I took it and did a simple blue filter simulation by having the base color layer with a blue photo filter layer above with a hue/saturation layer above that totally desaturated. If I turned the density on the photofilter to about 70% it looked fantastically textured, if not a bit noisy though.

    Layers looked like:
    HUE/SAT Adjustment Layer (desaturated)
    PHOTO FILTER Adjustment Layer (using the "blue" preset with the density around 70%)
    BASE Layer
    Last edited by Shelby Lewis; 29th May 2009 at 21:28.

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    Santa Cruz Mission buildings


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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    one more from the mission



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    I like the door series Jim,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shelby Lewis View Post
    So... I took it and ...
    Feel free to post it here. It's interesting to see different treatments. I will do the same when I have some time

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    Some fun with the 80mm PQS:


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    another one from the Mission

    (soon to be closed if things continue with the Budget here...)


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    Fishing harbour before dawn, 40mm f3.5 PQ lens on both. First is stitched.




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    Stunning images, Graham. I prefer the first one as they are, but if you were able to shoot the second one without the blue/white house, I would prefer that one. It looks like a raised vantage-point might achieve that. Is it possible?

    Is the light in the bright spot of the sky in the first image blown out, or just very bright? The colour shifts in that area are quite interesting.
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    http://forum.getdpi.com/gallery/files/8/2/40mmhood.jpg

    Good work Graham - and thanks for the 40mm hood -

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    Agree, both images are stunning Graham but my eye keeps being drawn to the second.

    Beautiful work!

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    Quote Originally Posted by carstenw View Post
    Stunning images, Graham. I prefer the first one as they are, but if you were able to shoot the second one without the blue/white house, I would prefer that one.
    It's retouchable. Might try that later. Thanks for feedback!

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    Graham, the first image is amazing. I agree that the house in the second is distracting, I'd prefer to just see the horizon so it's only the two boats. Really great though.

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    Graham,

    Another vote for the first one! I prefer the general composition of the second one, but the blue and white boat in the background kind of kills the mood of the older boats.

    Also a minor nit is there is some magenta-cyan banding visible in the dark to light purple to sky transition. Hopefully this just a jpeg artifact and not in the originals? Not sure which raw processor you are using, but is there a slider to pull highlights down? That may help it. Also, I had a similar problem with some images early on when "Open GL" was turned on in CS4. I eventually turned it completely off to eliminate the similar artifacts.

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    since we are nit-picking...the trailer interrupts the line of the bow in #1. this sort of thing is tough to see with the load of stuff in a 40mm image

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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    Two from this last friday.
    Found an old panel truck in a
    neighbors yard.


    Mamiya AFDII, P30, 120 Macro/D, ISO-100, 1/90th, F/9.5, FS-3





    Mamiya AFDII, P30, 55mm, ISO-100, 1/10th, F/9.5, FS-4

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlm View Post
    since we are nit-picking...the trailer interrupts the line of the bow in #1. this sort of thing is tough to see with the load of stuff in a 40mm image
    I can take all the constructive criticism you guys can dish out Funny that you should write this. I just finished retouching out the trailer. Updated now and I cropped it tighter to give the boats a bit more impact.

    When I first posted the pics I had not slept for 30 hours and retouching was the last thing on my mind



    Jack, which image are you referring to, or is it both?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmvdigital View Post
    Graham, the first image is amazing. I agree that the house in the second is distracting, I'd prefer to just see the horizon so it's only the two boats. Really great though.
    Done now:


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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    Looks much nicer. Hard to compare since the old one is gone There is a touch of darkness just to the left of the rope still, and between the rope and pole, there is some more. This part looks like it doesn't quite fit with the squeeky clean horizon you added closer to the boat. The thin bright line at the top of the ocean is thicker and messier or something. Still, stunning light, nicely seen and captured. You didn't sleep all night? What time was it taken? What were the exposure parameters?
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