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    Helped a friend do some mood shots for his café the other day..
    Mamiya 645 AFD, 120mm Macro & P25 digital back.

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    Very nice shots.

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    Helped a friend do some mood shots for his café the other day..

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    Yes very nice , have a nice look to them
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    Love the Eames chairs! Classic design...and easy to clean. Your friend seems to know what he is doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mammy645 View Post
    Helped a friend do some mood shots for his café the other day..
    I think these are just right. Fresh, simple, inviting.

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    Lovely... but what's in the glass???

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    some raspberry or cranberry jam to accompany the brownies?

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    Lovely... but what's in the glass???

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    Quote Originally Posted by thsinar View Post
    some raspberry or cranberry jam to accompany the brownies?
    Yepp, exactly, I think it's raspberry. Thanks for all the kind words

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    Hasselblad 501CM, 80mm CFE, Fuji Provia, Epson V750 Pro flatbed scanner. Still possible to get good results with film and a decent scanner.

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    Pentax 67, 105mm, Fuji Provia, Epson V750 Pro. Death Valley National Park.

    I'd better stop looking thru my old photos or I'll talk myself out of that 503CWD-II.....not likely.

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    Certainly your photos are a good argument for film. I talk about this regularly, but I don't want to harp on it, as I know there are a lot of digital users here, but film is still a superb choice for medium format. It is a more sensible choice in most cases too, unless you have a big enough commercial or business workflow to justify the expenses of medium format digital. Of course, if you just WANT medium format digital, that is completely fine too. I nearly went over to digital, but I realized that for what I want to do, film is fine, and in some ways better (my main use of medium format is for print sales, and black and white darkroom prints are still preferred by many collectors and galleries). Please don't take this as a criticism as medium format digital, but rather a praise of medium format film -- it still trounces 35mm film and digital (at least by my criteria) when used wisely.

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    Anyway, here is a shot that I just scanned from the archives...it was with a 203FE and the 110/2 I believe. The sRGB and tiny web jpeg can't really get the color and light of the original...oh well.

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    Stuart....beautiful shot....even in a jpg for the Web. I like the subtle colors and lighting.

    Film or digital capture, either one works for me. The gearhead in me enjoys reading about and seeing results from all the new digital backs etc, but most of it is beyond my means. The biggest plus for me was moving to a digital workflow, from image to print. I was never that good at print making in the darkroom, but I've gotten pretty good results with digital printing. Two of my black and white inkjet prints have been selected for the Alaska Rarefied Light photography exhibit in the past two years. Here's one of them.....scanned from film, of course.

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    Gary,
    Stellar images!
    Any special technique for B&W in CS3?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BJNY View Post
    Gary,
    Stellar images!
    Any special technique for B&W in CS3?
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    Thanks! No, I'm afraid my workflow is pretty standard and simple. Adjusting levels, Channel Mixer for converting color to BW, a little burning and dodging on rare occassions, etc. I haven't changed my basic workflow very much since I first started with Photoshop 6 many years ago. I know there are alot of things I could be doing to improve the images, but I haven't gotten there yet.

    I've been participating in a monthly digital B&W print exchange for the last 5+ years (actually, I'm now the coordinator of the exchange...Yahoo Digital BW Print Exchange group, if anyone is interested). Each participant (and they come from all over the world) includes a data sheet with their print that has pertinent details about their subject, equipment, inkset, paper, technique & workflow etc. I'm always struck by how sophisticated and in depth some of the participant's workflows have become. There are alot of amazing software tools out there which some folks are using also. I've just stuck with the basics and hence, only scratched the surface of what can be done to produce an outstanding image and print.

    Here is the other image/print that was selected for the Alaska Rarefied Light juried photography exhibit (in 2006).

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    Quote Originally Posted by fotografz View Post
    A few shots with either a CFV on a V camera or a H camera: 3 of them were for jobs

    By the way....it was Marc's review of the Hasselblad CFV (I think I saw it on the HasselbladInfo.com site) and his CFV images that first got me to thinking about MF digital. I had just acquired my first Hasselblad kit (the 501CM and 3 lenses) a month or so before seeing his review of the CFV....and of course, that triggered the gearhead's desire in me for more and better equipment.

    Never mind that I had FINALLY been able to afford the Hasselblad system I always dreamed of owning some day (thanks to the sharp depreciation in value of used medium format film cameras and lenses) or that I already had a pile of excellent and underutilized photo equipment sitting in my closet. Didn't matter....the IQ of his images with the CFV (as seen in the ones he posted earlier in this thread also) were stunning. That image of the Harley-Davidson motor is incredible (I can appreciate it, even though I'm not a HD rider....I lean more towards BMW & Ducati motorcycles).

    Yes, we can get great results from MF film and a good scanner....and it's certainly the less expensive route (by far), but I've still got my heart set on a new 503CWD-II kit, with that awesome 40 mm CFE IF lens!

    It looks so good......I can almost taste it!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bensonga View Post
    Stuart....beautiful shot....even in a jpg for the Web. I like the subtle colors and lighting.

    Film or digital capture, either one works for me. The gearhead in me enjoys reading about and seeing results from all the new digital backs etc, but most of it is beyond my means. The biggest plus for me was moving to a digital workflow, from image to print. I was never that good at print making in the darkroom, but I've gotten pretty good results with digital printing. Two of my black and white inkjet prints have been selected for the Alaska Rarefied Light photography exhibit in the past two years. Here's one of them.....scanned from film, of course.

    Gary Benson
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    Damned, that's nice. Film still rocks!

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    Gary - very nice work. Like yourself I keep thinking of the Hassy (or Mamiya) entry 'kits', but coming from a different entry point - a 1Ds2 (using alternate glass) vs. an existing MF setup.

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    The following are a couple of train pictures from the spring.

    All done with H3DII-39 and 80HC.


    Train and Grain
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    The following are a couple of train pictures from the spring.

    All done with H3DII-39 and 80HC.

    Old Caboose
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    The following are a couple of train pictures from the spring.

    All done with H3DII-39 and 80HC.

    Steam Engine


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    Here's just another random one...I am just going back through the archives to see the ones I have missed. I believe it was the 40mm Schneider on the 6008af and the 645 back.



    This is the mamiya 7 and 43mm, though I may have posted this...I do not remember.


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    The following are a couple of train pictures from the spring.

    All done with H3DII-39 and 80HC.
    Bob....those are spectacular! Great images from that camera.

    I love old trains and railway yards. My father worked for the Milwaukee Railroad for 30+ years and I have many memories of hanging out at the train station in Minneapolis with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuart Richardson View Post
    Here's just another random one...I am just going back through the archives to see the ones I have missed. I believe it was the 40mm Schneider on the 6008af and the 645 back.



    This is the mamiya 7 and 43mm, though I may have posted this...I do not remember.

    Such a great combination and the 43mm is a very special lens imho.

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    Gary,

    Thank you.

    I took a year off in undergraduate school and worked on the railroad...
    as a brakeman for the Kansas City Southern/Milwaukee Road in Kansas
    City...bottom of the call board so a lot of long nights.

    I too love the sense of drama and power that trains and stations convey.
    Truly a different era.

    Regards,

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    nice shots, guys! i'm getting inspired to dig out some old MF and LF b/w negs and scan them using my epson 700.
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    Thanks Woody -- the 43mm Mamiya is pretty much without peer as far as I am concerned. Too bad that its design precludes it from being used on Mamiya's SLRs (or anyone else's for that matter), but I suppose that is what makes it so fantastic.

    John -- please do dig out some negs and share them. It is a good day for it...I am just sitting here with a fan under the desk doing some printing and scanning. It is about 20 degrees too hot outside for me today.

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    stuart: i stopped shooting around 10:30 this am, sweating like a pig. good ol' NYC summer, eh?

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    While we're on the subject of trains.....here the business end of a Alaska Railroad rotary snow plow. Mamiya C220, 80mm lens, Epson 2450 scanner.

    Not even half as good as Bob's H3DII-39 images.

    Gary
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    Gary,

    That is a great picture...film stands tall against digital. If only one did not have to listen to the sweet slow sound of the scanner.

    I cannot imagine what would happen if that plow met a Caribou. Hate to be the one assigned to cleanup!

    I will try to pull together some 67s scans later this weekend ... I need to look for the DVDs in the safe. I bought a blueray burner a couple of months ago but have not even started the process of moving files to the larger disks. Extensis Portfolio is in the application folder but I am waiting for monsoon season to start that process. Dallas does not get many monsoons so it may be a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by docmoore View Post
    Gary,

    That is a great picture...film stands tall against digital. If only one did not have to listen to the sweet slow sound of the scanner.

    I cannot imagine what would happen if that plow met a Caribou. Hate to be the one assigned to cleanup!

    I will try to pull together some 67s scans later this weekend ... I need to look for the DVDs in the safe. I bought a blueray burner a couple of months ago but have not even started the process of moving files to the larger disks. Extensis Portfolio is in the application folder but I am waiting for monsoon season to start that process. Dallas does not get many monsoons so it may be a while.

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    Bob, for the price of a MF digital back one can secure a high resolurtion scanner that is done before you can load the next film ... just look for a used Imacon 949 : -)

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    digging deep...a scan from a 1976 tri-x neg:

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    another, same vintage; these were with a TOYO 4x5, Schneider 210 Symmar, tri-x, scanned on Epson 700 today, 32 years later!

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    Two more shots from the café..

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    one more...bob's shot of the grain elevators put me in the wayback machine; another from 1976, 90mm SuperAngulon

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    Marc,

    I am sure that the 949 would be phenomenal...I have one of the last 343s and just love the results but cannot imagine how nice the speed and peltier cooling of the 949 would be.

    I am afraid that with the acquisition of the H3DII I have a long list of things that preclude any 949 for quite a while. I need to exercise the discipline to gear up for MF film...it is more like an adventure these days, however a very good one. I travel with MF film and a small Canon P&S digital so I tend to scan in batches.

    Once I absorb the costs of my desired 50-100 HC, 300 HC, H2F and Alpa TC I may need to rethink the 949 or X5 ( used of course ).

    This past couple of weeks has been windy - a median of 15 mph with gusts to 20 mph and a couple of days with gusts to 50 mph during storms. I need to find some interiors to shoot because nothing outside is still enough if you want any DOF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by docmoore View Post
    Marc,

    I am sure that the 949 would be phenomenal...I have one of the last 343s and just love the results but cannot imagine how nice the speed and peltier cooling of the 949 would be.

    I am afraid that with the acquisition of the H3DII I have a long list of things that preclude any 949 for quite a while. I need to exercise the discipline to gear up for MF film...it is more like an adventure these days, however a very good one. I travel with MF film and a small Canon P&S digital so I tend to scan in batches.

    Once I absorb the costs of my desired 50-100 HC, 300 HC, H2F and Alpa TC I may need to rethink the 949 or X5 ( used of course ).

    This past couple of weeks has been windy - a median of 15 mph with gusts to 20 mph and a couple of days with gusts to 50 mph during storms. I need to find some interiors to shoot because nothing outside is still enough if you want any DOF.

    Bob
    While at the FOTO 3 show in Fort Collins today I had the chance to shoot the
    H3DII with the 50-100 lens. Lovely combination but man is that a big and heavy lens! Pictures don't do it justice.......you have to hold it to believe it. Not an easy hand holding object. JMHO

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    Yes, it is like a coffee can. I think it might even be bigger than the 180mm Tele-Xenar.

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    I know that there is probably some great exotic MF lenses out there. But, I'm feeling very good about the standard Mamiya 80/2.8 lens.

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    Yepp, the mamiya 80mm feels cheap but produces very solid results.

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    Kurt,
    That's a great capture. As far as lenses go I've been doing a little testing on my kit and the 80mm is no slouch. Holds it's own very, very well, and I think that's true of the Mamiya as well.

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    Would be nice to see some 100% crops, Kurt. These tiny web images tell us very little about the performance of the lens.

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    This lens is actually being replaced with a new D lens. Graham a while back all the MF shots from Carmel are with the 80 since that is all i had search ZD I think . I think I posted some crops than with the ZD. I'm without this lens at the moment waiting for the new one.
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    Hi Graham,

    I've had flat-out sharper lenses over the years, but this does a nice all-around job. I'm not a great methodology guy, so I'm probably the wrong guy to ask. But, since you asked, here's one from a few days ago. This is handheld at f8 and ISO 200 from a bit of a distance. I'm certain that I'd end up with more detail with a tripod. I've turned off the sharpening in C1 ... although it does sharpen up nicely with a bit of C1 fine tuning.

    First, the full image ...

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    And then the 100% crop. I was focusing on the rope, but the bird should've been in the "in-focus" zone.

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    Hi Kurt, thanks for that but I was curious to see the performance wide open. Your cafe shot looked like it might be f2.8.

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    Hi Graham,

    Yes, that shot was with the lens at 2.8. Here's a 100% crop with all of the sliders turned to 0 in C1. ISO 400.

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    Kurt try in C1 lower the Luminance to about 5 and color about 50
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    I assume that is handheld at a fairly low speed, so I would not go too far in using it as a performance benchmark...

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    Still pretty amazing that you can read the song titles...

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