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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob View Post
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    I think this last image begs for some more brightness in the center.
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    Yes, you are right! Something like this perhaps? I added vignetting, raised the overall exposure, and slightly lightened the branch in the middle. I still feel there is something missing, although it is much better now, but I can't put my finger on it. Maybe the very evenly lit central leaves just don't have the necessary detail to command interest.

    Thanks Bob.

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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    Yes, now I know where to look.
    You could even back off the vignetting a bit.

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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    try keeping the same relative exposure and vignetting but bump the overall exposure a stop or more

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    I like the latest one Carsten, makes me feel like I right on the edge of the clearing.

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    Thanks Don, I am happy to hear that from you.

    Bob and Jim, I just bumped the exposure 0.7 stops, but by that time, the vignetting started to feel more right, so I didn't touch it for now. Somehow the exposure and the vignetting seem to be connected:

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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    A few from this sunday for a dansschool

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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    Quote Originally Posted by carstenw View Post
    Thanks Don, I am happy to hear that from you.

    Bob and Jim, I just bumped the exposure 0.7 stops, but by that time, the vignetting started to feel more right, so I didn't touch it for now. Somehow the exposure and the vignetting seem to be connected:

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    Carsten, just right.
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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Doorhof View Post
    A few from this sunday for a dansschool
    Nice Frank. Looked at the Exif data and I would have guessed the Mamiya 28mm D or is this from the RZ
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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    Quote Originally Posted by carstenw View Post
    Thanks Don, I am happy to hear that from you.

    Bob and Jim, I just bumped the exposure 0.7 stops, but by that time, the vignetting started to feel more right, so I didn't touch it for now. Somehow the exposure and the vignetting seem to be connected:
    agreed, last one is nice!

    Carsten, when you profile your monitors, what lum setting do you use? I would suggest 110 - 120 as a standard, with D65 (6500) and 2.2 gamma.
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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Doorhof View Post
    A few from this sunday for a dansschool
    Frank,

    I like the first one of the series a lot -- very edgy!
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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    quite a bit of DOF on the last two from Frank

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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    Hi,
    I used the 35mm and 80mm on a 645AFD camera (my AFD/III is still not back), the AFD is a bitch to work with (sorry for the expression )

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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    No apology needed it is a bitch to work with. Not a fan of the AFD but the III version is much better and check out this quote pretty interesting comment. Look at the very last sentence , my interest just peaked a whole bunch

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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Doorhof View Post
    Hi,
    I used the 35mm and 80mm on a 645AFD camera (my AFD/III is still not back), the AFD is a bitch to work with (sorry for the expression )
    Nope, that is the right word.
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    That should be the new digital only Mamiya with vertical grip.

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    WOW, Frank!
    Is that strobes overpower Sun or special (which?) filters in Photoshop?

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    mostly overpowering the sun, and a bit photoshop ofcourse.

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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    I've only profiled this monitor once, and to be honest, I don't remember the luminance setting. I will pay more attention when I profile it again, upon my return. I use D65 and 2.2 gamma.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flesher View Post
    agreed, last one is nice!

    Carsten, when you profile your monitors, what lum setting do you use? I would suggest 110 - 120 as a standard, with D65 (6500) and 2.2 gamma.
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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    Quote Originally Posted by carstenw View Post
    I've only profiled this monitor once, and to be honest, I don't remember the luminance setting. I will pay more attention when I profile it again, upon my return. I use D65 and 2.2 gamma.
    Its definitely something that needs doing regularly and depending on your monitor, maybe as much as every few days...

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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    I have had the laptop since the late fall, but have only used it for editing for part of that time. I guess it is high time for me to profile it again

    Here is another shot from the magical forest:

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    Quote Originally Posted by carstenw View Post
    I have had the laptop since the late fall, but have only used it for editing for part of that time. I guess it is high time for me to profile it again

    Here is another shot from the magical forest:

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    I think the tonal transitions in this image to be very subtile- probably something which would be much harder to achieve with a DSLR. WHich lens did you use?

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    That is the Hasselblad 110mm f/2 FE.
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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    Oh my gosh, this image is awesome, totally awesome. (did I say I liked the image?? :-) Beautifully done. Eleanor

    Quote Originally Posted by t_streng View Post
    I dont see the problem so much when shooting from a tripod, I was speaking about handheld.
    The follwoing image was the 110 handhold at f2.0 and I think the image has enough DOF/sharpness for my taste:

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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    Some images that were shot yesterday.

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    I'm finding it difficult to appreciate any of the images here due to small size. Is there a way to show a 1920x1200 say? Many have large monitors. I suppose I could link to a site I have , then you could see all 9000x of an image! but I use Coppermine and I don't know how to get to a specific image.
    I know Jack helped once get an image quite large; it involved putting in gallery and linking back here. by clicking twice, one could see the orriginal size (or close)

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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    Just did this on the fly waiting for a client to show. Not too sure if I like it but thought I'd share.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gogopix View Post
    I'm finding it difficult to appreciate any of the images here due to small size.

    regards
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    I agree

    for example Don/Iron Creek is usually posting some amazing images but when you click on it you can't appreciate it as much as it deserves to be appreciated.

    but some of the ones that Guy posted recently are stunning images

    to my taste Guy improved his processing formula substantially and i can see a huge difference

    I just don't know who to blame yet for that Jack skills or Guys effort
    or the fact that they don't have their own instructional video at least part one


    cause' if I go with Phase I would love to be able to process files without leaving those traces/processing effects.

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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    Quote Originally Posted by gogopix View Post
    I'm finding it difficult to appreciate any of the images here due to small size. Is there a way to show a 1920x1200 say? Many have large monitors. I suppose I could link to a site I have , then you could see all 9000x of an image! but I use Coppermine and I don't know how to get to a specific image.
    I know Jack helped once get an image quite large; it involved putting in gallery and linking back here. by clicking twice, one could see the orriginal size (or close)

    regards
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    Uh, the little image is a clickable thumbnail -- you click on it and depending on your browser it will either open to full size or to fit your current browser window. Usually, if that happens, the cursor will be a littl plus sign meaning you need to click once more to go to full size.

    At present, you can post *attached* images up to 1250x2000 pixels this way -- larger ones will get sized to 1250x2000 max. For larger, post them in the gallery or host them on your own server and link to them using the embed photo icon -- sun over mountain -- in the post toolbar...

    Bottom line Victor is you can post them as large as you want, just we limit *attached* image sizes to 1250x2000 to keep the forum moving fast. You can post via an embedded link to any size you want...
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    Uh, the little image is a clickable thumbnail -- you click on it and depending on your browser it will either open to full size or to fit your current browser window. Usually, if that happens, the cursor will be a littl plus sign meaning you need to click once more to go to full size.
    that is what I thought.

    I tried that with Don's latest image but it's probably image it self that's small.

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    The image I attached is a smaller version of the original. I just double clicked the image and it open to twice the size of the thumbnail. I might need to make the images a little larger but at the same time I also need to protect it as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Doorhof View Post
    Some images that were shot yesterday.
    Hi Frank, I really like the colours and lighting in #3! (Only criticism would be the model - not my taste at all)

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    Here Victor 1900 pixels wide
    Click on it
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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    Guy,

    That shot is great. I love the tones, the overall exposure and just mood of the image.

    Frank,

    Like the new work the first couple are a little different lighting than I've seen you've use for posts in the past. It's more than likely the graduated background. Keep innovating though!

    Ok back to waiting for the fireworks show to begin in another 40 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Here Victor 1900 pixels wide
    Click on it

    Guy again very nice one

    did you save it for web or just ordinary jpeg and how many mb?

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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    I use a action that Jack made for the forum which you can get for a very small fee and helps the forum maintenance but you could do a save for web. This is a P30+ file so 186 mg 16 bit Tiff is the original. Really liking the P30+ even when I am doing the landscape stuff I am getting great detail. I really needed the higher ISO over the P25+ and you will see that in 2 weeks when I do another model and talent show in NY. There it's all stage lighting and that extra stop comes in handy. What I would love to have though for that gig especially is the P40+ with the sensor plus since i really don't need a 31mpx file size for it. In reality the P40+ is the answer for me , but that is going to have to wait until business picks up more. I'm actually pretty damn happy with my gear which is rare usually I am looking for the greener grass.
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    Looks great, Guy. Lovely image.

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    @Marq,
    I'm always experimenting with new light setups

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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Creek View Post
    I might need to make the images a little larger but at the same time I also need to protect it as well.

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    Don is really stating THE point folks: If you post it large enough so it fills a 30" display, I can easily grab it and print it large and it will look pretty darn awesome. Even at 1200 pixels, I can make a very usable 12" print from a web jpeg. At 900 pixels, it gets tougher, though I can still produce a usable 8" print.

    So, if you want to reasonably protect your web images without watermarking them across the middle, keep them to 900 pixels max. If you want to protect them and show them larger, then watermark them. Here I recommend creating a signature stamp, keeping it smaller, but stamping it in several places in the image -- easier on the eyes than a single huge signature across the middle, and very tough to clone out...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flesher View Post
    Don is really stating THE point folks: If you post it large enough so it fills a 30" display, I can easily grab it and print it large and it will look pretty darn awesome. Even at 1200 pixels, I can make a very usable 12" print from a web jpeg. At 900 pixels, it gets tougher, though I can still produce a usable 8" print.

    So, if you want to reasonably protect your web images without watermarking them across the middle, keep them to 900 pixels max. If you want to protect them and show them larger, then watermark them. Here I recommend creating a signature stamp, keeping it smaller, but stamping it in several places in the image -- easier on the eyes than a single huge signature across the middle, and very tough to clone out...
    Thanks Jack

    I like to show a combination of images here; what I like to call "throw always" are those I'll post larger sometime with and sometime with a watermark. Then there are the one's I'm serious about. These will be posted as smaller images to give you the idea without being able to capture and print with any real success.

    I've hear from people who have taken our images watermark and all and use them as screen savers. I was pissed at first then I figured it was a form of unpaid advertizing. Sandy overheard a guy at a show a couple years ago brag how he just prints images off the web without buying them. She walked up to him and said to "so what you're saying is you are a theft".

    We just produced a DVD show for the gallery (you can see a sample on our blog) that I made sure was as locked down as possible and still watermarked all the images.

    You have to be safe with your images as there are just too many people out there that will think nothing of grabbing them and using them for their own profit while you get nothing.

    Take this for what it's worth - I'm writing while having my first cup of coffee after a long night.

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    I will continue to share images in both sizes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Here Victor 1900 pixels wide
    Click on it
    Really this this image!

    Did I saw that I like it?
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    Thanks Don I got about 4 winners from that trip and this was one of them. Glad i stopped the caravan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Thanks Don I got about 4 winners from that trip and this was one of them. Glad i stopped the caravan
    I've always found that it's easier to have people stop when you're in front and driving!
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    May sound like a silly question but do either of you (Guy and Jack) talk about looking at the scene with one eye closed bring it back to a one dimensional aspect that relates closer to a photograph?

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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Glad i stopped the caravan
    As I tugged on the steering wheel and yelled pull over!!!!

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    LOL. I was looking it over first. LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    As I tugged on the steering wheel and yelled pull over!!!!
    Good thing you weren't in the backseat!
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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Creek View Post
    May sound like a silly question but do either of you (Guy and Jack) talk about looking at the scene with one eye closed bring it back to a one dimensional aspect that relates closer to a photograph?

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    Great question and no but I stand by people and do a lot of composing for them and explain why it works and what does not.

    Try to get them to see the way I do. For me it is natural it came at birth but you can develop a eye and that is what i try to teach. That was not a modest statement but the truth some are born with a eye for composition without thinking about it and some folks are not but it can be learned and taught. That is mostly what I try to do on the workshops is get folks to see and Jack compliments that on how to get there. In all honesty we are a great tag team. We both have our strengths and our weaknesses but together we do real well. That was not a ad either. LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Great question and no but I stand by people and do a lot of composing for them and explain why it works and what does not.
    Not too sure that would work with me doing that as I'd cast too long of a shadow!
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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    Also just thought about this - when I have my tripod fully extended even Sandy who is 6' has a problem seeing my camera! You can guess about Ken who needs a step stool (sorry couldn't resist)

    At least Jack can relate....
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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    I carry a step stool around. LOL

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