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    Quote Originally Posted by apneaimages View Post
    Windy day in Sweden P30 available Light
    Very Nice
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    something a little different. Mont Blanc, towards Matterhorn (little triangle on horizon)
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    something a little different. Mont Blanc, towards Matterhorn (little triangle on horizon)
    Very nice shot, Victor. We're you also mountaineering?

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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

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    Windy day in Sweden P30 available Light
    GORGEOUS shot!
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    Very nice shot, Victor. We're you also mountaineering?

    David
    well, it depends-we call it 'trekking'. A bit more than hiking (see image) but not on all fours too much

    That's my better half reaching out

    also only about 3000 feet a day, up and down (but we started at 7-8,000 feet

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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    Jacqui and Gina on Yellow Sofa

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    wow, Bob, I didn't realize you were so TALL!

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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    Yea, had to use the angle finder too.

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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    Quote Originally Posted by gogopix View Post
    wow, Bob, I didn't realize you were so TALL!
    You can tell he is tall from his avatar!!!

    Bob, nice image - I like the active textile patterns as background for the serenity of the pose. Two things. I wish the windows/window treatment were not visible and I find the 2 shadows circled below a little distracting, perhaps a little PS work to get rid of them (and btw - I looked at every cm of the image not just that area!).
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    Charlie, you are right.
    I ought to wait five minutes before posting these things and really look at them.
    The shadow is easy, the windows are not so easy. I darkened them, but that probably drew more attention to them.
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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    Nice Bob, but I think you're going to have to reshoot this a couple of more times to get it perfect

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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    Quote Originally Posted by David K View Post
    Nice Bob, but I think you're going to have to reshoot this a couple of more times to get it perfect
    At least two more times -- I understands that helps with teh finder fogging that occurs the first time

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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    Well the one lying down plus one other will be in for another shoot in three weeks, so I better get some of that anti-fog stuff for the finder.
    This is one reason that I really prefer to shoot tethered. I tried to teach Cynthia how to be my digital tech, but she told me that on these sorts of shoots I am on my own.
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    Bob---have you tried Jack's showering with the Cube/equipment technique?


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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    Only with cold water
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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    The Introduction

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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    I did an experiment with the P65+ sensor plus technology today. I took a walk without tripod and only with my H2 with standard 80mm lens with my 65+ attached. I almost always have a tripod with me but today i didn't. I wanted to put myself in situations where, to hand hold, I needed a minimum of iso 400. I used iso 400 with sensor plus and here are some of the resulting files. Very very clean, tack sharp no noise. these files can easily be printed to 16X20 and probably larger and maintain their integrity. I've always had an aversion to film grain of any kind and digital noise so I'm really particular. Eleanor
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    Contax 645 80mm lens with Aptus 65, converted to B&H using Silver Efex Pro


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    Quote Originally Posted by evgeny View Post
    Contax 645 80mm lens with Aptus 65, converted to B&H using Silver Efex Pro
    Beautiful smile!
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    Thanks, Bob.

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    Excellent Frank, those stockings are fantastic. This image really grabbed my attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apneaimages View Post
    Windy day in Sweden P30 available Light
    Wonderful!

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    The Introduction

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    I like the idea of this but her almost completely white eye gives me the creeps. I better help with the next shoot!

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    The eye is spooky, but don't you just love a girl with dirty knees.

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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    Pardon the interruption by a non MF owner. I have a question. Is there some kind of magic potion or hypnosis instructions included with these high mega pixel backs that puts ones wife in a trance so that she allows you to shoot beautiful women in provocative poses in your living room? If so, I'm selling my tractor immediately and going to the camera store.

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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    Tim,
    Yes, that is my living room, but I think that once you are past the MF gear etc and all that goes with it, the models are no issue.
    -bob

    p.s.
    How or what do you shoot with your tractor?

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    Bob, don't ask questions about the tractor and showering...
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    sorry guys - and sorry Bob! Maybe I had a bad day (actually I had a very good day)... But are you kidding? I see an old man's dream of lesbian girls making an inhibited show for him.
    Such a lounge is the inventory of a horror movie... I'm waiting for the psychotically killer to stab the girls in a big bloodbath.
    Honestly, I really don't get the idea, or the "photography". I find this tasteless to the utmost. Maybe sexist, too, not totally sure by now.
    Well, but high resolution. At least.
    I vote for a world wide photographer license.
    Hard? Certainly! As the "images" are...

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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

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    Tim,
    Yes, that is my living room, but I think that once you are past the MF gear etc and all that goes with it, the models are no issue.
    -bob

    p.s.
    How or what do you shoot with your tractor?
    In terms of relative value, my tractor is about an even trade for a pretty nice MF system.

    Quote Originally Posted by carstenw View Post
    Bob, don't ask questions about the tractor and showering...
    As for showering... once a week, need it or not.

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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    ouch!

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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    Thank you Thomas. Eleanor

    [QUOTE=thomas;120783]sorry guys - I find this tasteless to the utmost. Maybe sexist, too, not totally sure by now.

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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    Thomas, I earlier requested that this crap be removed from this board. This appears to be an old man with a limited skill set attempting to shock and and fulfill some other issues in his life.

    Lesbians are welcome to do as they wish, but I don't feel this garbage should be exhibited on this board - perhaps on a lesbian board.

    There are some extremely gifted photographers on this board - why should their work be intermingled with this junk.

    Bob perhaps should try to sell his "art" on some lesbian sites but they probably require much better quality than exhibited.
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    Didn't want to stretch it.
    With photography we are telling stories to ones eyes without words.
    We have to learn the "language" and the signs... (and forget the gear as it is totally meaningsless).

    "Think while you shoot" (Martin Munkácsi)

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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    Honestly I'm considering going back to the Luminous landscape forums. I enjoy sharing work and ideas about digital high resolution imaging but, sadly, I'm beginning to get the impressing this board may not best "fit" for me. Eleanor

    Quote Originally Posted by Tex View Post
    There are some extremely gifted photographers on this board - why should their work be intermingled with this junk.

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    sorry guys - and sorry Bob! Maybe I had a bad day (actually I had a very good day)... But are you kidding? I see an old man's dream of lesbian girls making an inhibited show for him.
    Such a lounge is the inventory of a horror movie... I'm waiting for the psychotically killer to stab the girls in a big bloodbath.
    Honestly, I really don't get the idea, or the "photography". I find this tasteless to the utmost. Maybe sexist, too, not totally sure by now.
    Thomas, since we're on my favorite subject allow me to throw in some

    Bondage...





    Deprivation with Experimentation





    and some old fashioned A$$ Grabbing for good measure...





    PS, if its important to anyone, the first two are Contax 645 with Aptus 54S and Kodak DCS back, the 3rd is a lowly Fuji dslr....
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    Quote Originally Posted by ddk View Post
    PS, if its important to you....
    no :-)

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    Thomas, I earlier requested that this crap be removed from this board. This appears to be an old man with a limited skill set attempting to shock and and fulfill some other issues in his life.

    Lesbians are welcome to do as they wish, but I don't feel this garbage should be exhibited on this board - perhaps on a lesbian board.

    There are some extremely gifted photographers on this board - why should their work be intermingled with this junk.

    Bob perhaps should try to sell his "art" on some lesbian sites but they probably require much better quality than exhibited.

    Tex sorry but with all due respect this is about as far from being a lesbian looking image than the moon and the stars and i see this involvement in normal life with my daughters friends on a daily basis and they are as far away as being in that category. I just spent 2 weeks with 1800 male and female models in NY and they all hug , kiss and love each other on a moment to moment basis. I think you clearly are looking for something else here that does not exist whatsoever but one man's attempt at learning photography with a different style that one is not accustomed too. When we stop experimenting with our work than we are lost forever. No one said it was or has to be perfect but the experimentation within the artist mind must be released or we never learn from it. I think a open mind is clearly is what this forum is always about and I will NOT censor peoples work ever unless it clearly is out of bounds and that is mine and Jacks call. If that does not suit you than please move on to clearly some other forum that suits your needs better. BUT I WILL NOT TOLERATE quotes like this ever on this forum Your quote "But are you kidding? I see an old man's dream of lesbian girls making an inhibited show for him." Second quote This appears to be an old man with a limited skill set attempting to shock and and fulfill some other issues in his life.

    That is against our rules on insulting members and not allowed PERIOD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    That is against our rules on insulting members and not allowed PERIOD.
    oh, interessting. If I am talented in using words, that might by offending. And if I'm not talented in using "images" that's just a try :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tex View Post
    Thomas, I earlier requested that this crap be removed from this board. This appears to be an old man with a limited skill set attempting to shock and and fulfill some other issues in his life.

    Lesbians are welcome to do as they wish, but I don't feel this garbage should be exhibited on this board - perhaps on a lesbian board.

    There are some extremely gifted photographers on this board - why should their work be intermingled with this junk.

    Bob perhaps should try to sell his "art" on some lesbian sites but they probably require much better quality than exhibited.
    I'm sorry Tex, wether you like the stuff or not is subjective and you're entitled to your opinion and critique, but what I resent most is imposition of misplaced morality on others. What I see is a couple of girls on a couch being coy, now if Bob made you see lesbian fantasies there then maybe the old man with the limited skill set isn't all that limited...

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    misplaced morality on others
    slow! I am not talking about morality! I am living in Cologne, Germany, which is probably the capital of homosexuality. And in fact some very good friends of mine are homosexual (me not, if this might be interessting here).
    I am talking about photography and aesthetics, not morality...
    Take a look at Joel Peter Witkin (yes, you should)... I love his work.

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    slow! I am not talking about morality! I am living in Cologne, Germany, which is probably the capital of homosexuality. And in fact some very good friends of mine are homosexual (me not, if this might be interessting here).
    I am talking about photography and aesthetics, not morality...
    Take a look at Joel Peter Witkin (yes, you should)... I love his work.
    Dear Thomas,

    there might be a bit of a language barrier here, none of this was directed at you and my initial response to your first post was supposed to be sarcastic not serious, but it seems like it was lost in translation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ddk View Post
    Dear Thomas,

    there might be a bit of a language barrier here, none of this was directed at you and my initial response to your first post was supposed to be sarcastic not serious, but it seems like it was lost in translation.
    okay, got it! thanks!

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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    Just some out takes from last week . All shot under tungsten stage lighting all at ISO 800 with a P30+ back. For me this was why I went from the P25+ to the P30+ was to gain that extra stop even though not at ISO 1600 the ISO 800 are just deadly quiet on noise. Shot with various lenses but the tight stuff is the Mamiya 300mm wide open and deadly sharp to boot. I used continuous AF on these and hardly missed. The AFDIII may not be a Canon on speed with AF but it's ability to track focus is uncanny. I rarely miss
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    I agree that images "can" tell a story - but not always. I really agree that all images are provocative; they provoke feelings, emotions, arousal to name just a few. They also provoke discussions that up till recently were friendly, encouraging and dealt with non attacking criticism. This is what has made this forum what it is today. I've come to like this forum for the non-threatening posture it is unlike other forums where attacking a person vs their art form is a way of life.

    I shoot landscape. I don't shoot people, models, weddings etc so I don't have a real dog in this fight over what looks good. I figure if I see a non-landscape piece I can either comment on because I personally like it or choose to ignore if I don't.

    It's obvious that recent works have caused extremely strong responses that in turn have turned into a not so subtle attack on the photographer and his work. It's also too bad that some people feel the need to publically attack a way of life.

    I'm uncertain however I believe that since this forum is based in the United States the owners must abide by all the laws that include freedom of speech, religion, race, and more importantly sexual persuasion.

    I don't know how some people thought the image had lesbian overtones as all I saw was two young ladies sitting on a couch (another reason I don't shoot people).

    What this isn't is "crap" "junk" or "garbage". It's art. The crap, junk, garbage are feelings of the observer.

    Not everyone likes my landscape work and that's okay by me.

    I'd like to suggest we move on now.

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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    Dear Members,
    I have taken a whole lot of pictures.
    Took shots during the Newark riots in 1967, burning buildings, people shot, looting, a person covered with gas and torched.
    Took a lot of pictures of family and violin recitals, ballet recitals, and yes, many many hockey games.
    In High School, I took pictures of a suicidal classmate who thankfully did not succeed, but I did get it on film.
    In college, I took pictures of demonstrations, got a picture of the state police rifle butting a co-ed because he didn't like what she said.
    About six years ago I took pictures of my wife, dying of cancer, slowly losing her mental faculties.
    I have taken pictures of drug addicts shooting up, of the homeless finding dinner in a trashbin, and of many beautiful places both in the US and abroad, from Moab, to Yucatan, to Alaska, Europe, China, Australia, and Japan.
    I have/had thousands of images ranging from the gritty to the ethereal, but all of those pictures I found. Maybe none of them are any good, but that is neither here or there. Occasionally I sold one, never made much, but I didn't care. It was a case of being there and hitting the button.
    The past year I have decided to start making pictures instead of taking them.
    I started working with lights, models, actors, dancers, families, dogs, horses, buildings, factories, whatever. Now the shots are thought about instead of just happening in front of me. Instead of standing there waiting for the light, I have the light and now wait for the subject.

    I am sorry if I offended, there was no intention to do that. They were not quite fully finished images, I was excited about how much worked about them and not necessary how "perfect" they were. Based on the reaction, I see that I have succeeded in fulfilling the commission which drove their creation. Models were engaged and selected to tell a story. When I get the rare commission, I try to satisfy the customer and deliver what is wanted. Although I am not finished with the processing, the buyer is very happy with the contacts and the processing concepts presented.

    Would there have been as much negative reaction to a shot of a burning black man covered in gasoline or a shot of a young girl's bleeding wrist or shot of a woman without hair and expression and pulse and breath, waiting for the undertakers to bag her and take her away from me?

    How about the thousands of shots of every hockey game ever played by my son?
    Nope, nobody cares.

    I sat in a classroom last night on glamor retouching. Very interesting class. One forensic photographer (WTF was he doing there?) a couple of wedding shooters, a couple of "fine art" types, a couple of sports shooters, and a guy that specialized in fetish and bondage. (I would shoot this too, but frankly do not know the ropes). I guess that it helped to demonstrate that there is no easy niche one can classsify photography.

    So if I offended, there was no intention. Apparently naked girls don't bother many, but flirty clothed ones bother some. Aplogies.

    And for those who have pointed out image shortcomings, Thanks.

    If the consensus is that I never post images of human interaction, then I think that would be very disappointing, but I will then not.

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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    I'm uncertain however I believe that since this forum is based in the United States the owners must abide by all the laws that include freedom of speech, religion, race, and more importantly sexual persuasion.

    Thanks Don not sure about following the letter of the law but it certainly follows our believes as human beings and that is more important and always wins the day with Jack and I . We will not allow those freedoms to go to the way side ever.
    Photography is all about experimentation and without it you will never learn art.

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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    Bob- Please keep it up! Who know you might inspire me to actually take an image with a person in it.

    And speaking of images -
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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Creek View Post
    I'm uncertain however I believe that since this forum is based in the United States the owners must abide by all the laws that include freedom of speech, religion, race, and more importantly sexual persuasion.
    now that's really funny.
    Don, I invite you to come over for one week here (so we could share our experiences about the WRS and could make a trip to Kampen, Netherlands :-) ... ). We would walk through the city and would have our last bratwurst at 5 a.m. somewhere in the center of the city at a kiosk and having a conversation with a top manger beside a homeless person beside a transvestite beside a plumber. Good, openminded conversation! Not a tale - you could have it every day here! If... if you are openminded.

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    Re: Fun with MF images - Part 3

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    I'm uncertain however I believe that since this forum is based in the United States the owners must abide by all the laws that include freedom of speech, religion, race, and more importantly sexual persuasion.

    Thanks Don not sure about following the letter of the law but it certainly follows our believes as human beings and that is more important and always wins the day with Jack and I . We will not allow those freedoms to go to the way side ever.
    Guy I apologize. I have absolutely no idea why I would think these models are depicting lesbian interaction.

    And wow, the bondage pictures are truly magnificient. Perhaps everybody can make REALLY BIG prints of these and frame them for exhibit in their homes.

    I guess I simply don't understand "art".

    I DO UNDERSTAND that there are some incredibly gifted folks on this board and I DO appreciate seeing their work (yours too).

    MAY I SUGGEST, that you have a seperate thread for "art" pictures.

    Thanks in advance for considering my request.
    Last edited by Tex; 28th July 2009 at 17:36.

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