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Chatfield State Park, CO
Phase One IQ180/Mamiya RZ Pro IID/Mamiya 37mm Fisheye lens
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Pramote
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Pramote,
Cherry Creek State Park, CO
Phase One IQ180/Cambo WRS AE/Rodenstock 23mm HR-S
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Pramote
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I was glad the 120mm did have auto focus at all, but next time I'll choose the 150mm. I went for the 120mm because I wanted to be able to capture details aswell. In the end I didn't do so but Fortuna favours the prepared, isn't it what they say?I love them.
Macros are not the faster at autofocus in general.
F16 is very "deep" the model needs to have top makeup and good skin.
Love the colors too.
Any tip about the F16 selection?
Best regards.
J. Duncan
Thanks very much Ed for your thoughtful comment from my hero! I really appreciate it.Pramote,
You are posting some great work but this one is puzzling me. Are you trying to show the conflict in this scene? Normally a stream is used to lead into the frame but the way you have composed the tree totally blocks the invitation. The additional clump of trees behind it blocks the scene even further. I'm curious about your thoughts on this one.
Ed
I'm going to get heat for this one. Ed its a first date you can't get past 1st base but if you do there is no way in hell your getting past 2nd base. So the invitation has some caveats.Pramote,
You are posting some great work but this one is puzzling me. Are you trying to show the conflict in this scene? Normally a stream is used to lead into the frame but the way you have composed the tree totally blocks the invitation. The additional clump of trees behind it blocks the scene even further. I'm curious about your thoughts on this one.
Ed
Unlike Ed, I really like this. I find with the water and then the tree crossing the stream there is a visual path into the landscape. Like the tonality as well. I also like you taking on what is normally ignored in landscape which are events like wind throw. Natural order and human ideas of order don't always mesh, but I really think you have a compelling image here.
Cherry Creek State Park, CO
Phase One IQ180/Cambo WRS AE/Rodenstock 23mm HR-S
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Pramote
Zenfolio | Pramote Laoprasert Photography
First, I did not mean to imply it was not an interesting shot. My apologies if it came across that way, just the opposite. I didn't understand what attracted you to photograph the scene in that way so I was picking your brain more than anything. It is perfectly acceptable to have an image that speaks in ways not obvious to the viewer.It just looked good to me when I shot it. Probably it's not
Nice to see that you are not color blind AlanLast one.
I will say this Pramote has my Cambo AE model and he is certainly doing justice with it. I want it back. LOLI'm going to get heat for this one. Ed its a first date you can't get past 1st base but if you do there is no way in hell your getting past 2nd base. So the invitation has some caveats.
I can feel the emails coming. Flame suit on
Pramote I do like the shot.
Thanks very much Will for your kind words! This is the complex scene I was not sure how it would come out when I took it. Great to hear thoughtful comments from friends here.Unlike Ed, I really like this. I find with the water and then the tree crossing the stream there is a visual path into the landscape. Like the tonality as well. I also like you taking on what is normally ignored in landscape which are events like wind throw. Natural order and human ideas of order don't always mesh, but I really think you have a compelling image here.
First, I did not mean to imply it was not an interesting shot. My apologies if it came across that way, just the opposite. I didn't understand what attracted you to photograph the scene in that way so I was picking your brain more than anything. It is perfectly acceptable to have an image that speaks in ways not obvious to the viewer.
Your response brings up more important subject: sometimes we get stuck in our rut of photographing images with technically good qualities in terms of subject, exposure, focus, composition etc. Venturing into the dangerous territory of telling a story or expressing our emotions visually is more problematic. It is comfortable to play it safe and only post images that you are sure will get approval and likes from the masses. A great sunset with fire in the sky is bound to elicit a positive response. Guy's post recently of that little bridge was a totally different type of image because it evoked a deeper emotion (in me anyway).
IMHO we only move beyond our current ability to express our artistic talent when we step outside that comfort zone of like-ability. Opening yourself up to possible criticism is scary to the fragile little artist egos living inside us that drives us to photograph.
More specifically, we've watched your work on this board improve by orders of magnitude in the past year or two (time flies). Hopefully my work has improved as I would guess everyone who frequents this board. Don't be too quick to crawl back in your artist shell with "Probably it's not", feel free to explore why you were attracted to the image without judging yourself.
What I think you will find is your frame of mind has a lot to do (maybe subconsciously to some extent) with why you saw something in the scene. Once we embrace that paradigm the idea of good or bad suddenly changes to how well did I communicate my vision or emotion. A different and much more constructive discussion than "is this a good image? yes or no".
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OMG where did all that come from?
EdFirst, I did not mean to imply it was not an interesting shot. My apologies if it came across that way, just the opposite. I didn't understand what attracted you to photograph the scene in that way so I was picking your brain more than anything. It is perfectly acceptable to have an image that speaks in ways not obvious to the viewer.
Your response brings up more important subject: sometimes we get stuck in our rut of photographing images with technically good qualities in terms of subject, exposure, focus, composition etc. Venturing into the dangerous territory of telling a story or expressing our emotions visually is more problematic. It is comfortable to play it safe and only post images that you are sure will get approval and likes from the masses. A great sunset with fire in the sky is bound to elicit a positive response. Guy's post recently of that little bridge was a totally different type of image because it evoked a deeper emotion (in me anyway).
IMHO we only move beyond our current ability to express our artistic talent when we step outside that comfort zone of like-ability. Opening yourself up to possible criticism is scary to the fragile little artist egos living inside us that drives us to photograph.
More specifically, we've watched your work on this board improve by orders of magnitude in the past year or two (time flies). Hopefully my work has improved as I would guess everyone who frequents this board. Don't be too quick to crawl back in your artist shell with "Probably it's not", feel free to explore why you were attracted to the image without judging yourself.
What I think you will find is your frame of mind has a lot to do (maybe subconsciously to some extent) with why you saw something in the scene. Once we embrace that paradigm the idea of good or bad suddenly changes to how well did I communicate my vision or emotion. A different and much more constructive discussion than "is this a good image? yes or no".
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OMG where did all that come from?
Ed...Thank you very much for your thoughtful comment and advice!First, I did not mean to imply it was not an interesting shot. My apologies if it came across that way, just the opposite. I didn't understand what attracted you to photograph the scene in that way so I was picking your brain more than anything. It is perfectly acceptable to have an image that speaks in ways not obvious to the viewer.
Your response brings up more important subject: sometimes we get stuck in our rut of photographing images with technically good qualities in terms of subject, exposure, focus, composition etc. Venturing into the dangerous territory of telling a story or expressing our emotions visually is more problematic. It is comfortable to play it safe and only post images that you are sure will get approval and likes from the masses. A great sunset with fire in the sky is bound to elicit a positive response. Guy's post recently of that little bridge was a totally different type of image because it evoked a deeper emotion (in me anyway).
IMHO we only move beyond our current ability to express our artistic talent when we step outside that comfort zone of like-ability. Opening yourself up to possible criticism is scary to the fragile little artist egos living inside us that drives us to photograph.
More specifically, we've watched your work on this board improve by orders of magnitude in the past year or two (time flies). Hopefully my work has improved as I would guess everyone who frequents this board. Don't be too quick to crawl back in your artist shell with "Probably it's not", feel free to explore why you were attracted to the image without judging yourself.
What I think you will find is your frame of mind has a lot to do (maybe subconsciously to some extent) with why you saw something in the scene. Once we embrace that paradigm the idea of good or bad suddenly changes to how well did I communicate my vision or emotion. A different and much more constructive discussion than "is this a good image? yes or no".
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OMG where did all that come from?
Thank you Ray. I will do my best to keep advancing my craft. It is great to get such positive support from yourself and others on this forum who's work I admire.Nice to see that you are not color blind Alan
I have admired your 4x5 B/W photos.
And I can see that you will keep up your good work in color also
Ray