Gents,
Interesting to read above posts...
Allow me to first state clear, that Phase One vs. Leaf back is in my view with much respect a personal preference. I believe it should remain so of equal level also under P1.
Is it??? :facesmack: ...
1) To hear lead of P1 say Leaf is 2nd best seem arrogant, wrong and misinformed. Is this really how Leaf is viewed and cared by P1, into making Leaf a second quality brand???
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2) Having viewed results from Credo 80 I am not impressed and am of view it did not measure up to my AFiII-12 (AptusII for Hy6, 80MP). Never mind that I also find the AFi to look also cooler on the camera... Important to my eye, the colors of Credo are significantly less appealing and like bleached, and files significant less sharp. Now this may be personal view and preference, but in fact AFiII-12 made me prematurely give up on the colors of, and on, slide film because of the very pleasing rendering of colors, fine gradation of colors, and the ability to render highlight transitions in post. I do not experience this with Credo 80, nor did I with my prior Aptus 65. If I understand correct, Credo internals are identical to IQ. Thus in my view, they do need to distinguish Leaf into what it was with the AFi/Aptus lines of stellar colors, sharpness, making it more into ehhh... Leaf. :thumbs:
3) Open platform? Phase One is NOT. Interestingly, in spite of the legal case against Hassy a few years back, P1 backs remain closed against AFi/Hy6 platform. Is that not tad "odd"??? :bugeyes:
4) Interesting read of the complaints in above posts of DF+. I gave up on AFDIII to point of totally unhappy with my Mamiya 645 system for Aptus 65. I switched to Hy6 system. What a difference.
Tolerances are more precise since the camera was
designed for digital (though also works with film). Lenses are sharp as
. Hy6 was also a work jointly by
Leaf, Sinar and F&H (Rolleiflex) and is a plain joy to work with. Should it not be, that if P1 really want to be and provide the best, they should support the arguably best camera out there with P1 backs??? Perhaps even add DHW as joint partner?? This is interesting also from point of what I heard the rights to Hy6 are owned by Leaf, thus indirectly by P1... :facesmack: :facesmack:
5) Leaf Aptus/AFi display remains largest still... why is the Credo display not same classic Leaf size 6x7cm??? :facesmack: Iphone interface in spite, I prefer my larger display (also rotating sensor is a must for Hy6, tilt display preferred)...
6) Reason I dropped Mamiya 645 AFDIII system was due to not finding it acceptable for tolerances, unacceptable support/repair from factory in Japan (do not start me on my old LuLa post 'ZD has Problem'...)... thus I find the Mamiya-Leaf branding as tad a marriage between a bad and the stellar Leaf, thus to dislike and even attempt at degrading the Leaf brand. Smart marketing??? :facesmack:
7) One good thing happened when Phase One overtook Leaf and one I do praise and appreciate very much: Captue One for Leaf RAW files. That ROCKS, thank you very much and well done!!!
. :thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:
In other words, my 2c worth of frank opinion are tad mixed... Yet may I dare to be bold and ask, should perhaps P1 step down with feet on ground?