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Alpa and Phase One fine art camera collaboration announced

hogweed

Member
the future is there I think...but there still has to be a market for it. There seems to be a market for technical cameras, both pros and fine art amateurs love Alpa, Arca, Linhof, Silvestri.
and than there is this:

CAPcam - CAPcam
I will have a look saturday at the Kina

Studio pros would love a thing like this. But after all those years of decline in the view camera sector, is ther still a market for these?
 

tjv

Active member
Integration between components, i.e. getting each part to "talk" to each other is key here. It's obviously not going to happen with the current crop of lenses from Rodenstock and Schneider. I'm guessing the Mamiya / Phase lenses communicate focus distance and aperture though? They could make an FPS like unit communicate with those lenses, I guess. Other than that, I imagine they'd have to introduce a brand new line of lenses, or a different type of lens mount if they want true integration and technical camera movements.
 

miska

Member
Well, in the Arca-Swiss system, the focusing mechanism does have an encoder, so it can report (to the e-module Cloud) the distance to which it is focused. You could imaging to also put encoders on the tilt and shift mechanisms. These could be used to report back to the camera, which then would write them to the EXIF.
With that data in the EXIF, you could automatically perform LCC (from a library of LCCs, measured for each position).
That would be quite nice...
I imagine that Alpa & P1 are thinking about something like this.
 

torger

Active member
I would probably continue with manual LCC anyway though, as I like the dust spot cleaning feature of it. For the big crowd a more integrated system would probably make the systems gain popularity though.

A big seller would be a well-integrated system with higher pixel count and sharper lenses than anyone else (CMOS ISO and live view of course, the broad range of users take that for granted by now). Resolving power sells. I think movements are secondary from a commercial point of view. Only back rise/fall would reach far.

My personal desires of the future of tech cams are quite different, but unfortunately probably less commercial.
 

Steve Hendrix

Well-known member
Absolutely. Btw, for those that don't know, Seitz actually make the Alpa bodies and I would presume the lens mounts too.

I totally agree that all of the current crop of tech manufacturers have excellent products. I've always said that myself and would happily shoot with Cambo, Arca or Sinar (which looks every bit as well made as the Alpas - maybe Seitz again?).

Nothing is stopping Cambo or Arca or any of the others from forging the same relationships. I suspect that Phase One and Alpa just got'er done ... So now anybody else is just playing catch up.

Btw, don't forget also the potential Phase One tie up with Alpa due to not just their traditional cameras but also the industrial and specialist camera side. Both companies play in that space.

Yes - agree with all you've said here, Graham. In our industry, there is very rarely any locking out, but more often a price of entry, a time to market, a commitment of some sort, that moves collaboration forward or backward.


Steve Hendrix
Capture Integration
 

gerald.d

Well-known member
So after the initial excitement, it appears this camera is basically a bundle of the IQ250, Alpa TC, and Rodenstock 23HR.

Hmm...
 

Dan Santoso

New member
I heard new body prototype has been in beta testing...I hope it is not from Alpa collaboration.

We need a new BODY that is great for COMMERCIAL job, most of us dont need new technical body to play with! Most commercial job cant be done with technical camera!

We need body with nice fast autofocus feature with multiple points and the ability to focus accurately in any light environment.
 

jotloob

Subscriber Member
So after the initial excitement, it appears this camera is basically a bundle of the IQ250, Alpa TC, and Rodenstock 23HR.

Hmm...
Plus Capture One Pro 8 + Capture Pilot . But what is so special about that combo . And why the 23HR ? . More and detailed info is required to understand .

Hmm . . . , yes , a big Hmm . . .
 

PeterL

Member
At the danger of sounding totally outdated, but why not the (discontinued by Alpa) SK24XL - it has perfect coverage on this sensor and is super sharp, no flare problems, a lot more compact that the Rodenstock - but that may that's just be me :).

Cheers, -Peter
 

dougpeterson

Workshop Member
I heard new body prototype has been in beta testing...I hope it is not from Alpa collaboration.

We need a new BODY that is great for COMMERCIAL job, most of us dont need new technical body to play with! Most commercial job cant be done with technical camera!
The Alpa TC + IQ2 Camera Bundle has nothing to do with R+D for the next Phase One SLR Body.
 
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