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Lower Priced 'Surface 3' announced with full Windows

kdphotography

Well-known member
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As a side note – and I know people have said WIFI connections are not so stable in the field – do Hasselblad or Phase allow for WIFI tethering of full resolution JPG or RAW files?....
Just a side note on tethering with the Surface Pro versus WiFi solutions:

The Surface Pro runs a full version of Capture One Pro 8, fully tethered, which means being able to view full resolution RAW files at 100% at a double-tap, or up to 400%. Try that with a WiFi jpeg and meet instant Surface Pro envy.... :eek:

No comparison in terms of performance abilities (without potential WiFi *ahem* issues). I think of it as a "super-extension" of the MFDB screen, but add better 100% Zooming for middle aged eyes. Great Loupe Tool and simply drag with a finger to position over the image, Focus Mask, highlight/shadow sliders approach to check details, and even Live View (vari-ND approach best) with new multiple focus points. All the tools of C1 Pro 8 at at your disposal in the field.

But you do need a USB3 enabled MFDB. I'm not familiar with Phocus' capabilities, but without USB3, venerable H missed the party!

The biggest challenge imho is glare, a difficulty facing any device with a monitor in the field. If anyone discovers a custom fit Surface Pro "hood" that is portable or folds flat----make sure to share it on the Surface Pro thread! http://www.getdpi.com/forum/medium-...o-2-enabling-phase-iq-series-credo-mfdbs.html

ken
 

narikin

New member
If you want a Firewire tethering tablet for a Hassy back, a good option is the ~5 years old Fujitsu Lifebook series machines, that have a built in mini-Firewire port (same as full size port, but no charging) and very decent Core 2 Duo processors, etc.

I used the Fujitsu Lifebook T5010 for C1 tethering in the field when Firewire was the only option on Phase backs. It has a touch screen which folds back completely on itself converting into a tablet form, with Pen interface, full windows, and does everything a Surface Pro does, but in a bigger & heavier form. They were $2500+ new, but unbelievably around $100 used on eBay now (!) though make sure you get a good working one.
 

narikin

New member
A couple of people have asked about using mini firewire ports on the Fujitsu convertibles. I simply bought a mini firewire 400 to full size firewire 400 cable on NewEgg, for about $10. Power for my Phase back came from the battery, as you cannot charge through mini f/w. I presume Hassy has some autonomous power option of its own, outside of firewire power, so you'd use that.

The Fujitsu convertibles are excellent machines, but I can only say for sure that the T5010 has firewire built in, which worked perfectly with my IQ180. Later models are a bit lighter and have full touchscreens (rather than just pen) but I'm not sure they have a firewire port still, so double check that. Do note it is more than double the weight of a Surface Pro 3, but is a great option otherwise, especially if you need firewire tethering. I still have mine.
 

jerome_m

Member
I presume Hassy has some autonomous power option of its own, outside of firewire power, so you'd use that.
Only on the H5D series and H4D-60. For the others, a firewire power injector and battery must be used (or a powered hub, which does the same thing).

The miniplug is also limited to 400 MB/s, while the camera can run at double that speed.
 

narikin

New member
Ok, well if it must be full size IEEE 1394 Firewire for Hassy backs, then there is a PCMCIA card slot, which you can fill with a full size Firewire adapter card:

from the spec sheet of T5010:


Ports:
One 15-pin D-SUB connector for VGA external monitor
Three USB 2.1 (Universal Serial Bus) connectors for input/output devices
One DC In connector
One IEEE 1394 (4-pin type) jack
One LAN (RJ-45) connector
One modem (RJ-11) connector (on select configurations)
Docking port (100-pin, to dock with port replicator)
One stereo headphone jack
One stereo microphone/line-in jack

Card Slots:
PCMCIA Card slot for one Type I or Type II card
Memory Stick/SD Card slot
Dedicated Smart Card slot (requires third-party application) FIPS-201 Approved


There are many such cards on Amazon or NewEgg or eBay, etc:

BYTECC Model FW-PCMCIA-2 PCI to 1394 Card Add-On Card - Newegg.com

Wa-La, you have a touchscreen tablet with full firewire good for Hassy, etc. for about $200!
Good luck!
 
Surface Pro 3 - $200 off at Costco

What it includes:
• Surface Pro 31 – Intel® Core™ i7 Processor, 256GB storage2 with 8GB RAM
• Windows 8.1 Pro
• Surface Pen – for the best writing and drawing experience on a tablet
• Surface Pro Type Cover (black) – designed exclusively for Surface Pro 3, the revolutionary click-in keyboard also protects
your display
• Office 365 Personal – a 1 year subscription3 to the latest versions of the best-in-class applications that you know and love
like Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Outlook, OneNote
• Surface Pro Screen Protector – made with tempered glass to offer premium scratch and chip protection for your Surface Pro 3
 

weinlamm

Member
Anything new from the Surface 3 'normal'? Have seen, that it's avaible soon. Still intersted if it will work as the Pro. :)
 

Paul2660

Well-known member
Last time I checked it runs the atom processor, which is not really going to work well with applications like C1, and tethering. Also what is the max ram? I thought it was only 4GB, which I also don't think will work well with C1 and tethering. It's priced right for sure at somewhere near 400.00

Paul
 

kdphotography

Well-known member
Best bet if you want to tether with a Surface Pro "on the cheap"---is be on the lookout for a SP2 Pro or SP3 Pro when the new SP4 Pro is released later this year.

If Guy Mancuso had a Surface Pro---that's the first place to check. :ROTFL: Second runner-up, I'd check with Don Libby.:)

You definitely want Core i5 processor or better and 8GB of RAM to tether and run C1 Pro 8.

Btw, I'm working on what I think will be the last generation of new and improved clamping options for tethering with the Surface Pro. More to follow. ;)

ken
 

D&A

Well-known member
Best bet if you want to tether with a Surface Pro "on the cheap"---is be on the lookout for a SP2 Pro or SP3 Pro when the new SP4 Pro is released later this year.

If Guy Mancuso had a Surface Pro---that's the first place to check. :ROTFL: Second runner-up, I'd check with Don Libby.:)

You definitely want Core i5 processor or better and 8GB of RAM to tether and run C1 Pro 8.

Btw, I'm working on what I think will be the last generation of new and improved clamping options for tethering with the Surface Pro. More to follow. ;)

ken
I've been running Surface Pro 2 then Surface Pro 3 i5 256. What is the battery life differences as well as fairly intensive work speed between Pro 3 i5 vs. I7 when running applications like C1 or current Photoshop? It's these two parameters (just an approximation) that interests me the most between the two processors in the Pro3. Thanks.

Dave (D&A)
 
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