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Isn't that the current story of Leica?Camera yes lenses no so much ...
Bob
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Isn't that the current story of Leica?Camera yes lenses no so much ...
Bob
Not even Leica R lenses can be fitted to achieve infinity focus on the S (hence it was not the promised "solution").can canon T/SE lenses be fitted to the Leica?
The longer lenses (280mm+) can be adapted at Solms/Wetzlar to work with S/LeiKo at infinity. I have had the APO Telyt Modular 1.4x focussing unit adapter modified to work with the S at infinity with both heads, I will get my 2x sent off sometime...Not even Leica R lenses can be fitted to achieve infinity focus on the S
Louis,I would buy into the S system and built up your lens collection over time,you have AF and leaf shutters and in a couple of yrs even the 007 will be affordable as tech moves forward.Thanks for all the responses.
As per the comment above I need to go down to a dealer and at least hold and test one in the flesh.
I do agree with one point above which is the new Sony 90/2.8 is a drop-dead outstanding lens.
My head says stay with the Sony platform as I already have a significant investment. My heart says you'll always wonder if you don't try MF digital.
Noted about the 645Z. I should also check that out.
Thanks again for all the advice/responses.
LouisB
One major bonus of the 007 (at least for some people) is the 3.5 fps!For now... DxO is getting ready for a huge info dump on the 645Z and various Pentax lenses, they've already added the Z to OpticsPro 10, so stay tuned, there just might be another 90mm 2.8 that wants that title.
S2/S2P - Original model, ISO range of 160~1250 and missing many features the new cameras have, just holding one felt like a step back from the S 006. S2P had a tougher LCD plate and premium warranty.
S 006 - The second model, it has a much larger buffer, expanded ISO of 100~1600, joystick, GPS, faster AF, and a whole bunch of other features that make it just plain better than the S2.
S-E - Rebranded S 006 with a different-colored top plate and basic warranty... I wonder if these are refurb 006's? Functionally, it is 100% identical.
S 007 - The first CMOS "S" camera, physical features from the 006 are largely identical minus minor cosmetic and functional changes, such as a different more robust LCD, unmarked top dial, no more GPS "hump", and an updated UI. Under the hood you of course gain Live View and video, wi-fi connectivity, and all the benefits CMOS brings with it; such as clean high-ISO, deep shadow recovery, and so on.
Besides that, they all have the same 30x45mm sensor size and 37.5MP resolution.
As a user of those systems (a7ii, S 006 and some other stuff) here is my opinion:...
My question is: has the shipped sailed and is there really no point in a 37.5mpx MF sensor versus albeit a smaller 36pmx or even 42mpx sensor in the latest A7RII.
I've always been a bit confused about the sensor densities - is a 35mm 36mpx sensor actually going to yield a different level of detail than a 37.5mpx MF sensor?
Apologies if this is an old topic but I'd welcome some clarity.
LouisB
Hi Louis,My question is: has the shipped sailed and is there really no point in a 37.5mpx MF sensor versus albeit a smaller 36pmx or even 42mpx sensor in the latest A7RII.
I've always been a bit confused about the sensor densities - is a 35mm 36mpx sensor actually going to yield a different level of detail than a 37.5mpx MF sensor?
LouisB
The first point is actually a "feature" of medium format in general, the larger in format you go, the more gradual the transition from in-focus to out-of-focus becomes.As a user of those systems (a7ii, S 006 and some other stuff) here is my opinion:
I see 2 areas where the S excels:
-transition from focused subject to background very smooth, no so abrupt like from smaller formats.
-very good midtones
I also prefer the colors, specially skin looks more natural for my taste.
My feeling is I gain more going from A7II or Leica M to Leica S than going from dx to FF.
I dont know how much of the difference is caused by sensor type, sensor format, and how much by lenses.
I've not yet had a serious look at it, only downloaded the update yesterday. A few observations though, adobe standard profile is rubbish compared with imbedded, it's really "thin" colour wise and takes a lot more processing, embedded is really nice so I have taken to using that but will see what the update does on base ISO files today. My feeling is that there was a little difference between the 2 cameras before the update but only side by side, in isolation you couldn't see any marked difference. If you shoot inside or lower light though the 007 is absolutely brilliant, the files are just wonderful at ISO 800.Mat, at base iso, which output do you prefer, the S006 or S007 ?
I'm a bit concerned that the new CMOS, large DR new sensor lost the character (or a bit of) compared to the S006.
Would be great to have your feedback on that.
ps: now that Lightroom officially supports the S007 with its own profile I think it's a good time to assess the (not overall) base iso IQ of the new S007. If there's an IQ trade off (like less natural transitions, 3D effects, vivid colors) compared to the S2/S006 then I won't upgrade.
Let me post two samples:The first point is actually a "feature" of medium format in general, the larger in format you go, the more gradual the transition from in-focus to out-of-focus becomes.
Mat, at base iso, which output do you prefer, the S006 or S007 ?
I'm a bit concerned that the new CMOS, large DR new sensor lost the character (or a bit of) compared to the S006.
Would be great to have your feedback on that.
ps: now that Lightroom officially supports the S007 with its own profile I think it's a good time to assess the (not overall) base iso IQ of the new S007. If there's an IQ trade off (like less natural transitions, 3D effects, vivid colors) compared to the S2/S006 then I won't upgrade.
Hmm... what exactly is being compared here? The focal length and exposure between the two is too different for me to pick out just one thing that's different.Let me post two samples:
Thank you for your answer.Hmm... what exactly is being compared here? The focal length and exposure between the two is too different for me to pick out just one thing that's different.
I'd run my own comparison between the 85L and the 150/2.8 if I still had the former lens with me, but unfortunately, the only two similar shots I have with each one at wide open aperture were taken 6 years apart!Thank you for your answer.
And we can see that the transition from in-focus to out-of-focus is more gradual in the picture taken with the larger format camera.I'd run my own comparison between the 85L and the 150/2.8 if I still had the former lens with me, but unfortunately, the only two similar shots I have with each one at wide open aperture were taken 6 years apart!