They are the same with different names. Just like you on different forums.
In any case, it appears you already know the answer..., " this is exactly equal to a P1 XF camera + IQ 350 back",
Used digi back pricing?
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Amazon has it for about the same price. That's about $10,000 less than last year. It seems Hasselblad has started aggressive pricing. They recently lowered the price of the CFV-50c, too.
What is wrong with the question? Isn't this a forum about MF cameras and aren't the two cameras MF?
What I see is that:
-the H and XF have the same resolution and sensor size. Posted samples on this forum showed little difference in color rendition
-the H has a very good line of lenses, all with a leaf shutter
-the XF line of lenses is larger but more heterogenous with two manufacturers
-the XF has a focal plane shutter, essential if one needs fast shutter speeds and also a faster flash sync
-as to lenses, there are some unique features from each brand. For example, H has a 24mm and the HTS, Phase has a real tilt and shift. Just one of these could be the tipping point for some.
-the XF camera is more modern
-the H can also use film backs (not very conveniently, you'll need a new viewfinder), I don't think the XF can do that (not sure here)
and, perhaps more important:
-the H uses firewire, the IQ USB3
-the IQ can use Capture One, the H uses either Phocus or Lightroom.
These are, more or less, the facts (I may have forgotten some).
Now, I suppose that you want us to discuss the price difference. I am not interested in discussing that. If you think the cheaper camera suits your needs, just buy it.
What is wrong with the question is that it's just trolling.
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If something is wrong, it is the recent evolution of this forum. From my part, I am still going to do as if this was a place where MF users and prospective MF buyers are looking for info about these particular cameras and good deals.
There was a further price drop last week in France for a new Hasselblad H5D-50c WiFi (no lens included) at 14.350 Euros (a little over than $15K - about half than P1's respective price).
Additionally, It seems that Hasselblad's pricing policy applies to all their Cmos censor products and their H5X camera body...
But if you truly feel that the "something wrong" here is the recent evolution of the forum, how do you think that T. D asscalos' not so well disguised Phase bashing helps with that recent evolution? The XF/IQ350 was much more expensive before the price drop; doesn't it stand to reason that a price drop widens that disparity? He's better off fantasizing about the dream Sinar he's convinced that will meet the needs of so many photographers. At least that's positive. The subtle Phase bashing is getting old.
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Alternatively, I can add a P-65+ (along to the two multishot ones I have) back to my current platforms and keep going with my trustful stuff... It will be one or the other, but thanks for the interest anyway... I'll let you know on my final decision via a PM...
Let us know how the 200MS goes for you. There aren't too many real users posting about it.
Never the less, for one having the chance to own an H5X with a Cmos 200MS for near 25K is not a joke... especially if it is financed by trading some of the equipment he now owns... what surprised me most is with the other option I posted... where some are asking for an IQ-160 S/H back close to the price of a new H5D-50c Wi-Fi combination and for a P65+ a very good percentage of it...
I know this a forum full of P1 funboys where if one questions P1 pricing policy is considered a heresy and such conversations are obstructed by you and other trolls... but deliberately altering ones post only proves the situation... After all you don't have to participate in a conversation that is irrelevant to the O/P... it's not normal behavior to do so...
The same thread with the same person posting the same inane words over and over again, months on end, on multiple forums. Thanks for such a valuable contribution to the knowledge pool. Sigh.
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I knew there was something abnormal about you but couldn't quite put my finger on it.
Thanks to the brilliant Theodoros, I finally see what it is. You're just a troll.
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Thank you, Steve. I just knew that something was amiss in my life. Even as a certified gear slut, I never quite felt entirely fulfilled, even after buying a Sony. Now I know. I have a new calling in life---and this thread to thank. Who woulda thought?
You don't like Phase, you think they are overpriced, you have found a less expensive solution for your needs -- we get it, really, we do. Maybe you lost too much value on the resale of your back, or your life partner left you for a Phase shooter, or you can't afford one, or you're simply a Hater? At least that would explain your ineffective Phase bashing. BTW, if this is a forum of P1 FANboys, why are you here lurking under the bridge? Just sayin'
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I have my own set of issues with P1, or Canon, or Nikon, or Leica, or my wife...but it is not a religion or a cause for me to keep harping on the same nonsense. Objecting to what this post stands for should not make me a P1 fanboy. If anything, I'm a fanboy of GetDPI and keeping it free of the silliness seen far too often on other forums, where a post degrades into grade school banter within the first 3 or 4 responses.
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Theodoros Dascalos is just a bit miffed that his trolling isn't getting the same traction here that it does at Lula.
We are genuinely sorry that a Phase One back ran over your puppy, Theo. We hope time will heal your wounds.
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Thanks for keeping it rather civil.
Trolling will not be tolerated.
My ban button is ready at hand.
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I will piggyback on Bob's comment and add my compliments to the regular members of this forum for not only NOT rising to the bait, but also for polite and civil forum self-moderation. Thanks for your professionalism!
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