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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Everyone outsources. I do not know a manufacturing company that does not get at the minimum from other parts of the world. Btw has zero to do with these lenses in the X1d designed by Hassy made in Japan by Nittho. I'm not sure who else they produce but Hassy has repeatedly said Its designed in Sweden
    If I'm correct, Rodenstock lenses have clearly marked "lens made in Germany" and "copal 0 shutter made in Japan".

    If the same applies to the X1D then it could read as something ridiculous like "sensor (core component) made in Japan".

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    I agree. That stuff to me is all politics and marketing BS. I could care less about either. This is about the product at hand not something Hassy has or did do in the past. I could give a crap. This is a global market I have no issues what's made anywhere in the world as long as they produce top notch quality I could care less where it's made. Leica does not use everything from Germany either it has to use at least 51 percent of the parts to say Made In Germany. That's from the horses mouth. So what's that tell ya. Nothing at all. Lol
    There are many practical people who doesn't care about marketing BS. To them the Sony mirrorless is indeed a very good choice. This Hasselblad X1D could also be a nice choice.

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    Yea but what difference does it make is the point unless you got something against Japan manufacturing or something like that. Putting the lenses together is just production. What really counts is design but I'll take that a step further it's the raw materials and the process of making glass itself . Which really is the catylist for the look. Seriously you gotta give up its made here or there as that's just all BS at the end of the day. What it does counts nothing else.
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    Do not fall into the marketing its all exactly that marketing
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    Re: Hasselblad X1D

    Quote Originally Posted by voidshatter View Post
    There are many practical people who doesn't care about marketing BS. To them the Sony mirrorless is indeed a very good choice. This Hasselblad X1D could also be a nice choice.
    I think they are all good choices if it fits your need. Obviously not all of them don't fit everyone's shoes. That's okay we have plenty to chose from. This product is just the start
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    The only decent lenses in the world are made by Zeiss! That's a fact! Everything else is rubbish!!!!

    Oh wait I think Cosina make the Zeiss lenses, never mind....
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    Some folks just want to elevate themselves by diminishing others .... so if I am an expert you must be a dolt.

    Nittoh manufactured the XPan lenses ... 'nuf said ... no one I know has anything but great memories of those.

    Contrast sharpness and acuity off the scale ....

    Nice to know that those long term relationships in manufacturing have been renewed.

    Oh my, I guess I am a beta as I see nothing but good in this.


    Rant over .... perhaps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick-T View Post
    The only decent lenses in the world are made by Zeiss! That's a fact! Everything else is rubbish!!!!

    Oh wait I think Cosina make the Zeiss lenses, never mind....
    So true … first of all I think "Made in Japan" is a good thing, because some of the best glasses came and still come from there. As far as I know, some Zeiss lenses are assembled by Cosina, others, like the Otuses, are made in Germany. Zeiss insists that their tight quality control procedures are applied anyway. So QC is the main point, IMHO.

    As the tolerances get tighter and tighter, QC means a lot, and all of you who have bought/tried 3-4 copies of a lens in order to find a good one, know what PITA this can be. Problem is, that it has nothing to do with "made in X country".

    The nice phrase "handmade in Sweden" is kind of cute, especially in combination with the video they showed…. if it is a lens made with aspherical elements, handmade still makes a lot of sense, especially if the technicians know what they are doing, but for a mirror less camera … still waiting for the 20 min video where they show how the aluminum body is handcrafted by Emil of Lönneberga.
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    Re: Hasselblad X1D

    Back in the OLD days, some claimed the sand used by Zeiss to make their glass was superior to the sand the Japaneses used therefore, Zeiss lenses produced better images. I think some marketer made up this rumor. :-)

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    Managed to get ahold of one today at Fotocare's demo day. Obviously demo software, so it is just a teaser.

    The size, weight and balance and feeling are all first rate. The build quality on the body is excellent. Touch screen is snappy even in demo, pinch to zoom, double tap to 100%, lots of good things already.

    Autofocus was still a work in progress, didn't try focus peaking but you might be able to manually focus this even without it. Viewfinder is not enormous but had decent eye relief, but they need to address the information layout and legibility.

    Camera is quiet, the shutter is definite. Could not assess the blackout time between frames in demo software but I hope it's brief like the Sonys.

    Overall the feeling was just right, so they got that going for them. The details will be where it either becomes amazing or just ok. But they seem to have most of it sussed out and its seems intuitive, not overly complex and everyone was saying how the heft and feel were spot on.

    Could be a huge winner for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by docmoore View Post
    Nittoh manufactured the XPan lenses ... 'nuf said ... no one I know has anything but great memories of those.

    Contrast sharpness and acuity off the scale ....

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    I wonder how well the XPan lenses will adapt to the X1D ?

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    Sounds promising.

    Understanding it's "demo software", what was the autofocus like and did the Hasselblad reps talk at all about what they are working on in the way of improvements for final release?

    What was wrong with the information layout in the EVF? Did they talk about that stuff, too?

    So... The million dollar questions... Is it a viable digital Mamiya 7 replacement?

    Thanks for the report.

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    Managed to get ahold of one today at Fotocare's demo day. Obviously demo software, so it is just a teaser.

    The size, weight and balance and feeling are all first rate. The build quality on the body is excellent. Touch screen is snappy even in demo, pinch to zoom, double tap to 100%, lots of good things already.

    Autofocus was still a work in progress, didn't try focus peaking but you might be able to manually focus this even without it. Viewfinder is not enormous but had decent eye relief, but they need to address the information layout and legibility.

    Camera is quiet, the shutter is definite. Could not assess the blackout time between frames in demo software but I hope it's brief like the Sonys.

    Overall the feeling was just right, so they got that going for them. The details will be where it either becomes amazing or just ok. But they seem to have most of it sussed out and its seems intuitive, not overly complex and everyone was saying how the heft and feel were spot on.

    Could be a huge winner for them.

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    Great report sounds really good considering they are still far out on release to the streets. Obviously have more work to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tjv View Post
    Sounds promising.

    Understanding it's "demo software", what was the autofocus like and did the Hasselblad reps talk at all about what they are working on in the way of improvements for final release?

    What was wrong with the information layout in the EVF? Did they talk about that stuff, too?

    So... The million dollar questions... Is it a viable digital Mamiya 7 replacement?

    Thanks for the report.
    The autofocus sometimes worked and sometimes didn't It was clearly a work in progress. I would not judge anything by it. I am not that familiar with EVFs so I don't know what the standard really is. The sony A7R 24mp is pretty snappy- it might not be that snappy but it would depend on the lens and the subject distance. All the reps reinforced the notion that this was beta software.

    The EVF info was superimposed over the image area- it was not on a separate black background. Evidently, the H6D has the info on a black background outside of the image area, however that is an optical viewfinder. So they are currently using the whole EVF for image. The reps were taking survey forms asking for impressions and improvements and I said the info like aperture, shutter, exposure, etc, should be on a background otherwise it is hard to discern on complicated backgrounds.

    My feelings are that the Mamiya 7 is the holy grail so I would say this might be as close as you'll ever get! Its been slightly smaller than a Mamiya 6. That was one reason why I suggested a pancake lens for this- it would be very compact.

    If I can wrap my head around EVF's in general it is a compelling solution- this camera, 3 primes and it all goes in a smalll leica like shoulder bag.

    I should also say I am biased against 35mm simply because of the frame aspect ratio- I have used them simply because they are affordable and durable, but since 2006 and losing the film workflow for editorial it has been 10 years of looking through a viewfinder and 'hating' what I see.
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    Re: Hasselblad X1D

    No one (I asked Hasselblad but they disappeared) figured out the camera registry yet?

    The sensor plane is marked on the body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robertwright View Post
    The autofocus sometimes worked and sometimes didn't It was clearly a work in progress. I would not judge anything by it. I am not that familiar with EVFs so I don't know what the standard really is. The sony A7R 24mp is pretty snappy- it might not be that snappy but it would depend on the lens and the subject distance. All the reps reinforced the notion that this was beta software.

    The EVF info was superimposed over the image area- it was not on a separate black background. Evidently, the H6D has the info on a black background outside of the image area, however that is an optical viewfinder. So they are currently using the whole EVF for image. The reps were taking survey forms asking for impressions and improvements and I said the info like aperture, shutter, exposure, etc, should be on a background otherwise it is hard to discern on complicated backgrounds.

    My feelings are that the Mamiya 7 is the holy grail so I would say this might be as close as you'll ever get! Its been slightly smaller than a Mamiya 6. That was one reason why I suggested a pancake lens for this- it would be very compact.

    If I can wrap my head around EVF's in general it is a compelling solution- this camera, 3 primes and it all goes in a smalll leica like shoulder bag.

    I should also say I am biased against 35mm simply because of the frame aspect ratio- I have used them simply because they are affordable and durable, but since 2006 and losing the film workflow for editorial it has been 10 years of looking through a viewfinder and 'hating' what I see.
    Robert, thanks for sharing your first impressions. I've placed my pre-order and am excited.

    Meanwhile, I spotted this on Hasselblad's Facebook page (from the Hasselblad team):

    On a short-term we are introducing a 30 mm wide angle lens already at photokina in September this year. More XCD lenses to come next year. Having zoom will be difficult, as it almost impossible theoretically to develop a zoom lens for such large medium format sensor that is compact and practical for such portable camera. We hope this helps! // The Hasselblad team
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Colson View Post
    ...Meanwhile, I spotted this on Hasselblad's Facebook page (from the Hasselblad team):

    On a short-term we are introducing a 30 mm wide angle lens already at photokina in September this year. More XCD lenses to come next year. Having zoom will be difficult, as it almost impossible theoretically to develop a zoom lens for such large medium format sensor that is compact and practical for such portable camera. We hope this helps! // The Hasselblad team
    Good to read this and their reasoning.

    This subject is indeed what I consider the biggest marketing failure of the Leica SL. Leica chose to introduce the SL with a big, pro-class zoom lens and chose to introduce another big pro-class zoom as the second lens in the line-up. That's created the perception that the SL is a huge camera. It means that for people like me who don't want to carry around a big package all the time, we have to adapt lenses from R and M cameras until Leica fills out the lens line further.

    The SL body is very close to the same size as the X1D and would have gotten a reputation of being at lease intermediate in size, rather than huge, if Leica had introduced it with an f/2 class 35 or 50mm lens as an option beyond the SL24-90. Many more people would be interested in the SL if they didn't have to buy it with a bazooka on the front in order to get AF, OIS, and all the metering modes. I know they were targeting it at the pro users, who almost invariably buy zooms nowadays, but it would have been much better to have a couple of compact lens offerings on introduction IMO.

    The much more difficult problem of building zooms that are fast, have enough range, and are also compact, for medium format forces Hasselblad to work within the confines of technical reality and produce a very compact (for MF) camera.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim View Post
    I wonder how well the XPan lenses will adapt to the X1D ?
    About as well as the Mamiya 7II's or my Leica S lenses ...

    So the question is how good are the X1D lenses ... maybe Hasselblad will loan the camera to someone who can shoot
    and we will see something worth an introduction like this.

    Wonder why every camera unveiling is crippled by pictures that would not get past my initial cull?


    Just saying.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim View Post
    I wonder how well the XPan lenses will adapt to the X1D ?
    If that worked it would be awesome (since I still enjoy my full xpan II system and would love to leverage those 3 lenses). I'm not holding my breath though.

    I've not preordered yet because I've learnt to let others do the beta testing and don't need to be first on the block. I realize for some getting the early cameras is important for some reason - I can wait ... For a bit at least
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim View Post
    I wonder how well the XPan lenses will adapt to the X1D ?
    Do Xpan lenses have shutters in them? If not, adapting them is problematic at best, regardless of anything else.

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    Re: Hasselblad X1D

    There is no chance of adapting the X pan lenses for any practical use for these reasons:

    1. There is no built in shutter in them that can be operated by the camera.

    2. Even on film, the 30 and 45mm lenses need a central filter to minimize the vignetting. On a digital sensor, that too a large one, there is no prayer.
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    Forget the xpan lenses. I'm happy to try the new hassy lenses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by docmoore View Post
    So the question is how good are the X1D lenses ...
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    According to the mtf's, very very good!

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    Hi,

    Based on my experience with the A7rII I have, I don't think that neither unmagnified LV or peaking is useful for accurate focusing. The way to focus is to either use magnified live view or simply to use AF.

    Just to say, on the Hasselblad 555/ELD I normally use a PM5 finder with a Zeiss 3X monocular giving me 9X magnification. With that combo I can achieve critical focus more than half the time.

    The best way to focus the "Blad" in my experience is split image on a smooth high contrast edge using 9X magnification.

    Contrast detecting AF is normally very accurate. Hopefully Hasselblad can make it work reasonably fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robertwright View Post
    Managed to get ahold of one today at Fotocare's demo day. Obviously demo software, so it is just a teaser.

    The size, weight and balance and feeling are all first rate. The build quality on the body is excellent. Touch screen is snappy even in demo, pinch to zoom, double tap to 100%, lots of good things already.

    Autofocus was still a work in progress, didn't try focus peaking but you might be able to manually focus this even without it. Viewfinder is not enormous but had decent eye relief, but they need to address the information layout and legibility.

    Camera is quiet, the shutter is definite. Could not assess the blackout time between frames in demo software but I hope it's brief like the Sonys.

    Overall the feeling was just right, so they got that going for them. The details will be where it either becomes amazing or just ok. But they seem to have most of it sussed out and its seems intuitive, not overly complex and everyone was saying how the heft and feel were spot on.

    Could be a huge winner for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    There is no chance of adapting the X pan lenses for any practical use for these reasons:

    1. There is no built in shutter in them that can be operated by the camera.

    2. Even on film, the 30 and 45mm lenses need a central filter to minimize the vignetting. On a digital sensor, that too a large one, there is no prayer.
    so no one could make a leaf shutter within an adapter? (edit: probably cost prohibitive)
    I do recall now the central filter. Seemed like a fix for a design that was a bit lacking IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim View Post
    so no one could make a leaf shutter within an adapter? (edit: probably cost prohibitive)
    I do recall now the central filter. Seemed like a fix for a design that was a bit lacking IMO.
    In reality the filter is only required with the 30 & 45mm, in particular with slide film. Now on a digital sensor there's a lot less need due to LCC correction as an alternative. I never use the filter on 45/90, although admittedly it's a constant light sucking feature on the 30mm.

    I'll be happy to see Hassy 30/45/90/150 and that would be my travel MF outfit right there.

    Btw, isn't it great that so many people are again enthusiastic about Hasselblad products? Despite the damage of the last few years I sense a resurgence of interest in the brand (outside those who were always loyal). Great to see Hasselblad stepping up to give Phase One a run for the money. It'll be interesting to see what comes from Pentax / Fuji too. Personally I'm very happy with the 44x33 ratio sensors since I personally detest 2:3, especially in portrait mode.
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    I agree, it's great that there is a renewed passion in Hasselblad, I really hope it sells well.

    The whole tilt/shift adapter thing, I always thought that the HTS needed to have magnification because it was meant to be used with existing lenses on the H that needed the magnification to maintain infinity focus, could be completely wrong though, if that's the case, then I could see the adapter needed for H lenses on the X1D being the ideal opportunity for them to build a non magnifying t/s adapter as there is lots of space? Can't get away from needing to create the added depth between X and H mounts so maybe a smart adapter with t/s would do the trick and wouldn't need to stack the H adapter, plus the HTS and have an unwieldy piece of kit? Just thinking aloud.

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    The 30mm and 45mm lenses announced so far sound great but a dedicated X1D HTS with lower magnification along with a 120mm/150mm lens (perhaps macro) would make be buy this tomorrow.

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    Re: Hasselblad X1D

    Mat,

    As I understand it, the issue with the HTS adapter magnification is the image circle. You can't shift the image if the image circle isn't a good deal bigger than the sensor. Blowing up the image means your sensor covers a smaller part of the image, so the end result looks magnified. Hasselblad lenses meant to cover full 645 will have some extra image circle naturally, but maybe not enough for the desired use without some magnification.

    Dedicated TS lenses (and their tech cam brethren) have much larger image circles than the sensors they're used with.

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    Ahhh, I see Matt, that makes a lot of sense, ignore me! It would be truly great if the future saw a wide t/s lens put in to action though, would be a great package although I imagine it won't be long before we see a Cambo/Arca mount for use on their cameras soon.

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    I doubt Hasselblad will make the X1D useful for technical photography as it does not seem to be their intended market. However a HTS with lower magnification (thanks to the crop sensor) seem technically feasible, maybe if there is a significant demand...

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    I haven't looked to deeply, what would stop it from being mounted to an Actus or something for example with a tech lens on the front or the Canon or any other mount? Is there a sync port? I'm guessing entirely here but wouldn't it work the same as the Actus with a db? Obviously I am aware of the normal reported issues with movements but I'm talking is there a practical reason why it couldn't be mounted beyond there not yet being a bayonet mount for it?

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    If a t/s adapter needs a crop factor I would hope they would make it user selectable displayed like the aperture going from 1.1-1.6 in increments of one. Also then would like the cropping and as well as all the aspect ratios like square to be in an XMP file so the full view captured by the sensor is available but the software like phocus and Lightroom defaults to the crop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjr View Post
    I haven't looked to deeply, what would stop it from being mounted to an Actus or something for example with a tech lens on the front or the Canon or any other mount? Is there a sync port? I'm guessing entirely here but wouldn't it work the same as the Actus with a db? Obviously I am aware of the normal reported issues with movements but I'm talking is there a practical reason why it couldn't be mounted beyond there not yet being a bayonet mount for it?
    It's not as flexible as the Sony A7r as it lacks a focal plane shutter, so you need to have a copal shutter or something in the lens. If you're only using it as a digital back, getting a CFV-50c is probably wiser as it's not much more expensive and you actually get a digital back with no flange distance issues.

    It doesn't have a normal flash sync port, I think I've seen various work-arounds for that, so I guess there is one for syncing it with copal shutters...?

    Anyway the reason for using it instead of a CFV-50c would be that you want to use the X1D for it's intended use as well, and then use it on a tech cam only as a complement. If you're only using it on a tech cam, a CFV-50c makes much more sense I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slingers View Post
    If a t/s adapter needs a crop factor I would hope they would make it user selectable displayed like the aperture going from 1.1-1.6 in increments of one. Also then would like the cropping and as well as all the aspect ratios like square to be in an XMP file so the full view captured by the sensor is available but the software like phocus and Lightroom defaults to the crop.
    The current HTS for the H system magnifies optically (a tele converter), so you don't need to crop on the sensor. I'm quite sure the same would count in the unlikely event that they make one for the X1D.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjr View Post
    Ahhh, I see Matt, that makes a lot of sense, ignore me! It would be truly great if the future saw a wide t/s lens put in to action though, would be a great package although I imagine it won't be long before we see a Cambo/Arca mount for use on their cameras soon.

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    Just as the 30mm T/S lens for the Leica S would have been wonderful. Well, since mirrorless looks like the future, I give better odds for such a lens appearing on the X1D than the S. Alas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjr View Post
    I haven't looked to deeply, what would stop it from being mounted to an Actus or something for example with a tech lens on the front or the Canon or any other mount? Is there a sync port? I'm guessing entirely here but wouldn't it work the same as the Actus with a db? Obviously I am aware of the normal reported issues with movements but I'm talking is there a practical reason why it couldn't be mounted beyond there not yet being a bayonet mount for it?
    The sync port can be handled by a hot shoe adapter. It could work perfectly on an Actus or Universalis. It just requires either Arca or Cambo to make an adapter.

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    Is/will there be a virtual horizon in the EVW? (Shooting hand-held with a wide like the forthcoming 30mm this would be quite important, IMHO.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim View Post
    so no one could make a leaf shutter within an adapter? (edit: probably cost prohibitive)
    I do recall now the central filter. Seemed like a fix for a design that was a bit lacking IMO.
    One could, but it's not easy and it's also cost prohibitive, as you suggest.

    Let's not waste time on the forty-year-old focal plane vs leaf shutter debate. Each has its plusses and minuses. One of the minuses of in-lens leaf shutters is that cameras which use them are less adaptable to the use of other lenses, but they have several advantages over large focal plane shutters (noise, vibration, durability, etc). It's not worth debating again...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godfrey View Post
    One could, but it's not easy and it's also cost prohibitive, as you suggest.

    Let's not waste time on the forty-year-old focal plane vs leaf shutter debate. Each has its plusses and minuses. One of the minuses of in-lens leaf shutters is that cameras which use them are less adaptable to the use of other lenses, but they have several advantages over large focal plane shutters (noise, vibration, durability, etc). It's not worth debating again...

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    Minor correction: compatibility with leaf shutter lenses does not prohibit other lenses. The lack of a focal plane shutter does. Cameras like the Leica S and Phase One XF have both kinds of shutters and therefore can use third party or legacy lenses.
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    you have to wonder what advantages you get even if you could mount it to an actus? an extra 7mp, the format ratio and the small increase in sensor size if that matters to you. if you own an actus already then you probably have an a7rII or a live view capable 50/100mp back. so less movements for a 7mp increase and inability to sync some of the lenses you own.
    Depth to the body so less wiggle room for wides compared to an MFD back.
    and for some users you get sensor stabilisation/on-chip af? 4k video and access to just about every lens out there for 2k not 7k (sorry to mention the dirty word A7r)

    at some point there will be a mirrorless MFD camera that would be a no-brainer for actus use. this isn’t it.

    still a nice walk around camera though.
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    The only decent lenses in the world are made by Zeiss! That's a fact! Everything else is rubbish!!!!

    Oh wait I think Cosina make the Zeiss lenses, never mind....
    Another post from somewhere else:

    Here's how Samsung gets Schneider Kreuznach to make lenses for 'em:

    SAMSUNG: "We're making a play, like every other man and his giant-electronics-corporation dog, for the digital camera market. Unfortunately, we have zero credibility in the camera industry, and, well, that's where you come in..."

    SCHNEIDER KREUZNACH: "NEIN! Ve are a respected European opticz company, with many years of fine tradition und expertise in the field..."

    Samsung drops, with a surprisingly loud thud, a briefcase on the conference table. It pops open, revealing row upon row of shiny Euro notes, neatly bundled in 10000-Euro lots

    SK: "...and as such vill not be villing to zell our name for use on some cheap, mass-produced cameras! Our lens are a ground by magic elves, und coated vith ze finest, purest dragon's urine..."

    Samsung reaches into its pocket, and pulls out a handful of diamonds, water clear, each the size of a human testicle, and tumbles them onto the briefcase

    SK: "Our lenses are hand-assembled by virgins! The lens barrels are polished on zeir thighs!"

    Samsung whistles, and a team of sunglass-wearing security guards with earpieces screwed into their ears, wielding submachine guns, enter the room. They briefly check the corners, the faces of those at the conference table, then nod and mutter into their lapels. Seconds later, a powered trolley laden with gold bullion enters the room, and is placed at the head of the table.

    SK: "EACH LENS IS HAND-TESTED BY ZE POPE!"

    Samsung pulls a share certificate from his pocket. Laying it next to the briefcase, it reads: "COCA-COLA: 250,000 Shares".

    SK: "I look forward to working vith you, Samsung. Here's the TIFF file of our logo. Stick it vhere you vant. Guten tag!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by dougpeterson View Post
    Minor correction: compatibility with leaf shutter lenses does not prohibit other lenses. The lack of a focal plane shutter does. Cameras like the Leica S and Phase One XF have both kinds of shutters and therefore can use third party or legacy lenses.
    100mp sensors can make use of yesteryears fast lenses (Contrary to Hasselbald's claims about "compromising IQ" with non Nitto lenses).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Do not fall into the marketing its all exactly that marketing
    Not sure about the western market but I can assure you that in China (where these expensive cameras are supposed to sell most) the marketing BS is indeed an important thing for expensive cameras. Just like people there purchase exotic cars 99% for the logo and make, they value a lot with the logo, tradition and culture when they purchase an expensive camera as a luxury item. They show more respect to BMW cars made in Germany, but little respect to BMW cars made in China.

    I do respect people making their own choices based on practical and objective points, i.e. focus on the camera itself rather than "pointless marketing BS". These are people who actually take pictures. It's just reality that there are also people out there who "likes" to fall into the marketing.

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    Hi,

    It's Nittoh not Nitto.

    https://www.nittohkogaku.co.jp/brand/technology/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    100mp sensors can make use of yesteryears fast lenses (Contrary to Hasselbald's claims about "compromising IQ" with non Nitto lenses).

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    Eric, the site linked to signals a malware site!!

    Best.

    Quote Originally Posted by ErikKaffehr View Post
    Hi,

    It's Nittoh not Nitto.

    https://www.nittohkogaku.co.jp/brand/technology/

    Best regards
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    Quote Originally Posted by rayyan View Post
    Eric, the site linked to signals a malware site!!

    Best.
    I think this is an existing issue with GetDPI and external sites? If you copy the link and paste it into your browser it's fine

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    Quote Originally Posted by ErikKaffehr View Post
    Hi,

    It's Nittoh not Nitto.

    https://www.nittohkogaku.co.jp/brand/technology/

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    Oh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    No one (I asked Hasselblad but they disappeared) figured out the camera registry yet?

    The sensor plane is marked on the body.
    Based on the dimensions given and images of the side view of the camera, with the sensor plane marking, I measure a registry distance of 18.5mm. Give or take a mm or 2, to allow for errors caused by perspective and/or my inaccuracy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dickb View Post
    Based on the dimensions given and images of the side view of the camera, with the sensor plane marking, I measure a registry distance of 18.5mm. Give or take a mm or 2, to allow for errors caused by perspective and/or my inaccuracy.
    Thank you!

    This would allowfor adapted Canon's TS lenses (with no movements) to be used in B mode and with a hat as a shutter.

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