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    Hasselblad X1D

    Now that the cat is officially out of the bag, I thought it would be nice to start a new thread on this camera. I am very curious as to what everyone thinks. I, for one, just ordered an H6D-50C, anticipating an upgrade to the H6D-100C when available. I own a Sony A7RII. Although the menu sucks, I really like being able to use my Canon glass. I don't see any reason to purchase an X1D at this point in time.
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    Re: Hasselblad X1D

    It is good to see that Hasselblad is back on the innovation track. A camera below a 10k price point is clearly attractive for the ambitious amateur and somehow what i was hoping for, see
    More to come From Hasselblad

    Will i buy it? I don't know. Its the first version of the new series and in some areas they didn't jump far enough IMO:
    - EVF has 2.36 MP while Leica SL has 4 MP
    - I would have hoped for CFast card support to accommodate 4k raw video in a later version
    - HD video only

    Everything else is quite positive what is known so far, design is nice, body seems solid, all nice and good. I need
    to get it in my hands before making a decision but this is clearly tempting.

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    Re: Hasselblad X1D

    Nice try Hasselblad, nice try.

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    Thumbs up Re: Hasselblad X1D

    Waiting to know more about the AF system. And frames /sec.. Etc..etc. And I'm sure this will be a great cam.

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    Re: Hasselblad X1D

    With no FP shutter, I think it is less versatile and hence over priced. Hopefully, there will be versions with a built in shutter (reasonably quiet ones) in the future that might tempt me.

    I did not know that Hasselblad relied on Nikon's iTTL system. That seems like a saving grace (to have a well developed flash system instantly).

    I do not think the CDAF would be too useful. May be the future versions will have PDAF elements.
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    Re: Hasselblad X1D

    Watched the launch video... I really like new Hassy CEO.

    Best wishes to them on the X1D.
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    Re: Hasselblad X1D

    Sony, the next FF camera please!
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    Re: Hasselblad X1D

    Quote Originally Posted by k-hawinkler View Post
    Sony, the next FF camera please!
    ..and note that Hasselblad offers lossless RAW output! Do some justice to your own frigging sensors!
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    Re: Hasselblad X1D

    I am very impressed with the size.

    But for the rest I am not much wiser after the launch yet. I get the feeling this is an almost camera. If it works then great, but I'm not sure it will tempt people away from the 645Z and S007 just yet. First there are a lot of questions about usability, durability and compatibility to be answered.

    The lens range is too small, a bit like the criticism was with the SL, but the SL is great with M glass. With the X1D Hasselblad is kind of saying 'but you can use S-lenses as well.', but those are very different and much bigger. No word yet on a V-adapter. They only talk of using Hasselblad lenses, like they always do. But I think they should have marketed this camera more as a stand alone camera that you can use a lot of different lenses on, kind of like Leica did with the SL (and the S). Especially since they have too few lenses now for the time being. Why not try to sell as many cameras as possible, even if it is without lenses? People will buy the lenses when they become available if they already have the camera. But I guess that penny still hasn't dropped with Hasselblad.

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    Re: Hasselblad X1D

    I'm really into it and think they did a great job. You get all (or at least most) of the H5D=>H6D improvements (1/2000th flash sync, better screen with touch, dual card slots...no 100MP option though) in a package a fraction of the size and weight and a fraction of the price of an H6D-50c. I'm finding it hard to see what's not to like about that. It looks like they kept the button layout and interface simple as well, a gripe I have with existing mirrorless cameras. The wheel by the shutter that pops out I think is particularly clever (no accidental settings changes and keeps design cleaner) and it looks like the grip is well thought out as well. I had been hoping to move from my H4D-40 to a used H5D-50c or H6D-50c, but the X1D is a much more attractive option for me and most likely would hold me over for a couple years until prices on the H6D-100c come down.

    Also, the size/weight is a game changer for me in terms of portability. Being able to tote around MF like I do my A7R and carry it around all day when I travel is HUGE. It will also draw a lot less attention because it's much less conspicuous, something I grow tired of with my H4D. Traditional MF size may be advantageous in the studio to impress clients, but outside of the studio the attention is annoying and the size/weight makes handholding all day impossible. Of course I can still use my 35-90mm on a tripod when I want to, something I prob won't be able to do if another manufacturer puts out a mirrorless MF. I'm really curious to see if in addition to an H adapter, they make an HTS adapter for H =>X1D.

    The only downside appears to be with no FPS the use of 3rd party glass via adapters may be a no-go, but this is not a big deal for me as I've sold off most of my glass that I would adapt to mirrorless. I'm also concerned about heat buildup and noise with long exposures, as well as battery life. I do love the OVF of my H4D, so I'm curious to see how the EVF compares and if there's focus magnification or any of that that I've grown used to with the A7R. The X1D may not be perfect for everyone, but it checks all the boxes for me. I'll try to demo one and if I like maybe order around the holidays if I can. I also want to see what happens at Photokina before ordering...there's been rumors of lots of other cameras (mirrorless MF Fuji/Sony, 70+MP Sony 35mm FF, etc) that may change the landscape considerably. Even if it's not the camera for you, there's been talk of mirrorless MF for a long time, and it's nice to see it become a reality.
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    Re: Hasselblad X1D

    i for one like this camera and it will be list to get one, it very much reminds me of the bronica rf, they have taken the technology from the h6 packaged it in a more compact body. though i dont know about the lenses, hassi has never disappointed me with lenses

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    Re: Hasselblad X1D

    I’ve been looking at the specs and photos this morning. And I read Ming Thein’s blog post:

    https://blog.mingthein.com/2016/06/2...lblad-x1d-50c/

    I tried viewing the streaming video of the Hass presentation but even with my >200MB Internet connection, buffering made it nearly impossible. Lots of simultaneous viewers I’d imagine.

    Anyway, there are some specs that drew my attention:

    50MP CMOS medium format (43.8 x 32.9mm) sensor (8272 x 6200 pixels). Pixel well of 5.3 x 5.3 μm - Same a 645Z and best-of-breed
    16-bit colour with up to 14 stops of dynamic range - Same as 645Z and best-of-breed
    ISO 100-25,600 - Same as 645Z and best-of-breed
    3-inch 920K-dot touchscreen display - OK but not great; would have been better if articulating; touchscreen looks excellent
    2.36MP XGA EVF - Disappointing; Ming suggests that the SL EVF panel may be exclusive to Leica
    Dual SD slots, USB 3.0 Type-C, mini-HDMI, Audio In/Out - Dual slots is a welcome feature especially with large file sizes
    Wi-Fi and GPS - Sweet; no reason why every new camera wouldn’t have these two features
    3200mAh battery - Sweet; three times the capacity of the a7RII battery
    Hasselblad X1D body weight is 725g (including battery) - Wow! Didn’t see that coming

    The design of the camera is very classy and sleek. I like that. The grip appears to be much better than either the Sony or Leica grips, and would fit my large hands. The price is not outrageous. Two lenses now and one to be announced at Photokina is OK but not ideal. The real question is how good will these lenses be? And how fast will AF be?

    I’m not blown away by the announcement and there are some open questions that weren’t addressed:

    RAW format (DNG or proprietary)
    Lens adapters for non-native lenses
    PDAF or CDAF
    Focal plane and/or leaf shutter with final production models

    Overall, a good stimulus for the industry and a signal that medium-format is alive and kicking. The next several months should provide some more data points. For the record, I just sold my 645Z and am using a Sony a7RII exclusively now. I've owned a H4D-40 and H4D-50 and several Hass HC and HCD lenses.

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    Re: Hasselblad X1D

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Colson View Post

    I’m not blown away by the announcement and there are some open questions that weren’t addressed:

    RAW format (DNG or proprietary)
    Lens adapters for non-native lenses
    PDAF or CDAF
    Focal plane and/or leaf shutter with final production models

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    Lossless compressed RAW (unlike the lossy SOny stuff).

    Can only adapt H lenses. No indication if one can operate the camera without a system lens mounted.
    (Hasselblad top brass were busy denying rumors that Fuji had a part in the X1D and they are unlikely to clone/rebadge SOny's cameras/lenses in the future. Also, they were patting themselves on their backs saying how proud they are o the X1D. The livestream presentation was a waste. You did not miss much.)

    CDAF- likely slow as molasses.

    No FP shutter (hence adapting other lenses would be limited)

    Edit: They did not mention anything about the very short camera registry or how much it is. A key aspect for adapting any lenses. Rather disappointing as they are attempting to come up with a new camera system.
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    Re: Hasselblad X1D

    Throughout the presentation (on youtube), what struck me was the comparison with Sony (another innovator) and other manufacturers . What a complete mess of a design most cameras are compared wth the X1D, or say the Leica Q.

    You may have issues with leaf shutter lenses, or flash modes, etc, but for goodness sake, the X1D oozes style.

    I guess the difference reflects the respective companies design philisophies - either cram everything in somewhwere, or proper thought out industrial design. I dont have an obvious use for an X1D, but I think I want one.

    I also assume Pentax could quite easily follow suit, at a lower price.
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    Important notice

    Important notice :

    So, long story short, I was on the phone with Hasselblad France CEO for about an hour. While we spoke on the product (I will come later on this point) we mentioned forums and other things.

    First point : The yesterday leak (from a shop).

    Hasselblad is utterly angry and the person (or moral person) will be sued by the hard way.

    Second point : The defamatory posts :

    Hasselblad (world) are just bored by the forums but very attentive too. There is a new law in Europe as well in US who will permit Hassy to pursue people or moral persons bashing wrongly the hassy products or making any kind of defamatory posts about hassy products. It is new and will be applied. Hearing the guy himself... I trust them. In a way, I completely agree with this principle.

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    On the product now:

    The X1-D early testing samples will be sent almost every where by the start of July, date where I probably get my hands on it if planets align correctly.
    The X1-D is priced €7900 without VAT. The 45mm less than 2K without VAT and the 90mm a bit more than 2K without VAT and the later 30mm a bit less than 3K without VAT. The adaptor will be around €300 without VAT and will work only with Hasselblad LS lenses. This 30mm will be "stargazing" as he told me.
    There is no plan for now on another lenses, probably 2017.
    The lenses are made by the same manufacturer as the Xpan lenses, in Japan.

    The waiting list will be long because Sony sensor manufactures are down. This is why the CVF50 is temporary discontinued; they need to focus effort on the X1-D sensor.

    Thats all for now
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    Re: Important notice

    Quote Originally Posted by Hulyss Bowman View Post
    Important notice :


    Second point : The defamatory posts :

    Hasselblad (world) are just bored by the forums but very attentive too. There is a new law in Europe as well in US who will permit Hassy to pursue people or moral persons bashing wrongly the hassy products or making any kind of defamatory posts about hassy products. It is new and will be applied. Hearing the guy himself... I trust them. In a way, I completely agree with this principle.

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    If one example of this happens, I can assure this misguided thinking that the rest of the world is not in the middle east (where photography is not possible anyway).

    Please pass on that friendly suggestion to the Lunar creators.
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    Re: Hasselblad X1D

    They should start by suing the former CEO who thought such products were a good idea in the first place.
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    Re: Hasselblad X1D

    I didn't realise that it has no FPS and rely solely on the lens shutter...
    This is really a bummer. I mean it could have been more, but i think they really don't have the money to develop this shutter system and also they really want to sell their own lens...

    Bummer, really. Also the CDAF...
    Other than size, I don't see it being that revolutionary at all!

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    Re: Hasselblad X1D

    No. Brands are very cool today and they often let ppl say anything on their name or products. It is their right to apply such policy when they can. When you have a brand or a name you understand it because it can severely crush the total sales.

    We didn't spoke about the Lunar or whatever. It was an another team, a another time. The actual team as been sequestrated 5 day; the CEO's as well as the marketing and R&D managers, to remap everything. This is not a legend, it is a fact.

    The results are so far : The H6 and the XD-1. I don't see any flaw yet in those systems.

    Of course they know (and seen) that the concurrence is coming so this year kina will be kind of interesting

    I just got a phone call and might have the unit with the two lenses by the end of the week, start of july. Will try to do justice to the camera.
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    Re: Hasselblad X1D

    There is nothing defamatory, or illegal about being critical of any company or its products.
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    Re: Hasselblad X1D

    The X1D looks great! It also looks like it will feel great in the hand, unlike the ergo-mess of the Leica SL.
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    Re: Hasselblad X1D

    Quote Originally Posted by Quentin_Bargate View Post
    There is nothing defamatory, or illegal about being critical of any company or its products.
    It is not about that it is about saying wrong statements about the brand or the products, who mislead the potential buyer, if I understood correctly.

    Quote Originally Posted by bradhusick View Post
    The X1D looks great! It also looks like it will feel great in the hand, unlike the ergo-mess of the Leica SL.
    Well... the S was super by his time and it still a super system. That said the XD-1 is the first pad in the pond ! The lenses aren't that expensive and are LS. this is perfect for most application but will not replace the H system for some major applications.
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    Re: Hasselblad X1D

    Quote Originally Posted by Hulyss Bowman View Post
    It is not about that it is about saying wrong statements about the brand or the products, who mislead the potential buyer, if I understood correctly.
    Fair enough.
    If Phase followed this rule, some infamous trolls in LuLa would be in big trouble
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    Re: Hasselblad X1D

    Quote Originally Posted by synn View Post
    Fair enough.
    If Phase followed this rule, some infamous trolls in LuLa would be in big trouble
    Damn yea !

    Stay tuned I'm happy to test it very soon trying to find a (beautiful) model in this short time.
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    Re: Hasselblad X1D

    Quote Originally Posted by Hulyss Bowman View Post
    Damn yea !

    Stay tuned I'm happy to test it very soon trying to find a (beautiful) model in this short time.

    Looking forward to the sample images, Hulyss. Your work is always inspiring and I am sure you will do proper justice to the camera.
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    Quote Originally Posted by synn View Post
    Looking forward to the sample images, Hulyss. Your work is always inspiring and I am sure you will do proper justice to the camera.
    Thanks for your kind word but we will wait and see. I do not know yet in what sort of conditions I will test it. Surprise (if I can keep it for more than a day or just an afternoon ... I dunno).
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    Re: Hasselblad X1D

    Quote Originally Posted by Hulyss Bowman View Post
    It is not about that it is about saying wrong statements about the brand or the products, who mislead the potential buyer, if I understood correctly.

    Aptly applies to Lunar, Stellar and Solar (did that ever come in to the market?). SOny NEX-7, RX100 and A99.

    FWIW, I am a potential buyer of the mirrorless digicams (any format). It is good to know the "fact" that the Hasselblad team has seen the competition's product. Looking forward to all of it.

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    Re: Hasselblad X1D

    Quote Originally Posted by Quentin_Bargate View Post
    ...but for goodness sake, the X1D oozes style.
    I agree. The design is intoxicating. Spoken by an engineer.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hulyss Bowman View Post
    Second point : The defamatory posts :

    Hasselblad (world) are just bored by the forums but very attentive too. There is a new law in Europe as well in US who will permit Hassy to pursue people or moral persons bashing wrongly the hassy products or making any kind of defamatory posts about hassy products. It is new and will be applied. Hearing the guy himself... I trust them. In a way, I completely agree with this principle.
    Good luck with that in the USA. Freedom of speech prevails. Ask The Donald.

    Quote Originally Posted by Quentin_Bargate View Post
    There is nothing defamatory, or illegal about being critical of any company or its products.
    Agreed. And Quentin knows from whence he speaks.

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    Re: Hasselblad X1D

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    Aptly applies to Lunar, Stellar and Solar (did that ever come in to the market?). SOny NEX-7, RX100 and A99.

    FWIW, I am potential buyer of the mirrorless digicams (any format). It is good to know the "fact" that the Hasselblad team has seen the competition's product. Looking forward to all of it.
    I understand what you say but I think we must go forward and forget about this. H is serious, they did some little mistakes (not MF related by the way). We must start to be objective with what is actual and writing a new story.
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    Re: Hasselblad X1D

    Quote Originally Posted by Hulyss Bowman View Post
    I understand what you say but I think we must go forward and forget about this. H is serious, they did some little mistakes (not MF related by the way). We must start to be objective with what is actual and writing a new story.
    That is reasonable but any fascist draconian threat is bound to doom the enterprise.
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    Re: Hasselblad X1D

    Once all the excitement dies down, what and who is the X1D really for? Slow-ish lenses, not many of them, expensive and matched or nearly matched (despite what they might say) by several full frame DSLRs.

    Great design, how it should be done, but does it have a market amongst anyone other than bankers looking to spend their bonuses?

    Edit: I still want one, but I'm not a banker so don't qualify
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    Re: Hasselblad X1D

    Quote Originally Posted by Hulyss Bowman View Post
    Important notice :

    First point : The yesterday leak (from a shop).

    Hasselblad is utterly angry and the person (or moral person) will be sued by the hard way.
    Good luck with that. "IF" the company that leaked is a legit Hasselblad dealer, they can pull the dealership. But sue? Ask Steve Jobs how well that works.

    Second point : The defamatory posts :

    Hasselblad (world) are just bored by the forums but very attentive too. There is a new law in Europe as well in US who will permit Hassy to pursue people or moral persons bashing wrongly the hassy products or making any kind of defamatory posts about hassy products. It is new and will be applied. Hearing the guy himself... I trust them. In a way, I completely agree with this principle.
    Good luck with that ... in fact this one is laughable

    This guy doesn't sound like much of a CEO if this is the kind of stuff he's worried about at the most important product launch Hasselblad has had a very long time.

    And despite their supposed boredom of forums and product bashing LuLa is important enough to them to make sure they had all the information to post an article moments after the announcement.

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    Once all the excitement dies down, what and who is the X1D really for? Slow-ish lenses, not many of them, expensive and matched or nearly matched (despite what they might say) by several full frame DSLRs.

    Great design, how it should be done, but does it have a market amongst anyone other than bankers looking to spend their bonuses?
    I am a bit surprised that Hulyss who sounds like a model for austerity in everything camera related is getting to test an unit.

    (Is this what was rumored to be a "game changer"?)


    Would he buy one with real money at full price?

    (He does make some nice portraits and am sure he would do justice to any gear he uses but that is a different matter altogether)

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    FWIW when a camera can only shoot 2.5 frames per second you don't really need UHS-ii

    You can still use those cards in a UHS-1 slot though to benefit from the read speeds and C-Fast would of added needless size to the camera.

    I'm glad it doesn't have 4k - video with a medium format sensor is plain fugly (645z rolling shutter anyone)?
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    I have no real answer Vivek. (this might be an answer).

    and so I let the thread as it is.
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    Exactly. Nobodies moral rights have been impinged, nobody has made false claims. Hassleblad are not above critisism, if anything they should take it on the chin and strive to improve. I have to say their recent releases seem to indicate they are heading in the right direction.
    They would be better off not spending money on lawyers chasing spurious claims (sorry Quentin) but diverting that money to research/development
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    Ask Steve Jobs how well that works...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quentin_Bargate View Post
    Once all the excitement dies down, what and who is the X1D really for? Slow-ish lenses, not many of them, expensive and matched or nearly matched (despite what they might say) by several full frame DSLRs.

    Great design, how it should be done, but does it have a market amongst anyone other than bankers looking to spend their bonuses?

    Edit: I still want one, but I'm not a banker so don't qualify
    I think it could be an excellent platform for landscape and "travel" where the user places a premium on light and portable but doesn't want to trade off image quality. Think about the X1D not with just two prime lenses but instead with a full range of smallish primes and an exceptional 24-70mm equivalent f/4 zoom. The promise is there.

    There is a lot of interest here and elsewhere about what kind of competing MF mirrorless cameras may be forthcoming from Sony, Fuji and Phase One. I am curious what people think those cameras may offer that the X1D lacks. One thing I am sure of is that they won't be lighter and more compact.

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    Yes, but the details all are well known.

    (Related, google Streisand effect)

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    Quote Originally Posted by hcubell View Post
    I think it could be an excellent platform for landscape and "travel" where the user places a premium on light and portable but doesn't want to trade off image quality. Think about the X1D not with just two prime lenses but instead with a full range of smallish primes and an exceptional 24-70mm equivalent f/4 zoom. The promise is there.
    Without IBIS or VR/OSS/IS, casual "travel" use is crippled. Not impossible, but certainly less enabled. Landscape photography, with a tripod, is certainly in play as it is with other medium-format alternatives. Buying the $9K (USD) platform in anticipation of "a full range of smallish primes and an exceptional 24-70mm equivalent f/4 zoom" in a few years is not attractive to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by hcubell View Post
    There is a lot of interest here and elsewhere about what kind of competing MF mirrorless cameras may be forthcoming from Sony, Fuji and Phase One. I am curious what people think those cameras may offer that the X1D lacks. One thing I am sure of is that they won't be lighter and more compact.
    How about best-of-breed EVF (like the Leica SL), IBIS or VR/OSS/IS, articulating rear LCD (like the 645Z), focal plane shutter, fast AF, and better lens selection for a start? I don't need "lighter and more compact".

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    I really could see dumping my XF / IQ180 for this new X1D. The XF is unbearably heavy especially with the 40-80mm attached. Yes I'd lose a bit of resolution and C1 but the small lightweight Blad plus high ISO capability would make up for that.

    Anyone else have the same thoughts ?

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    I really could see dumping my XF / IQ180 for this new X1D. The XF is unbearably heavy especially with the 40-80mm attached. Yes I'd lose a bit of resolution and C1 but the small lightweight Blad plus high ISO capability would make up for that.

    Anyone else have the same thoughts ?
    Well... if you do not need more resolution for what you do and can cope with the fact of loosing C1 (hard)... yes it can be a real weight advantage. But Phase might come with something too,I do not know but it seems logic. So it is up to you, it's in your hands

    You can try a unit and make your final opinion.
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    Re: Hasselblad X1D

    Let me get this straight : the body has no shutter but the two introduced lenses have integral leaf-shutters.

    With the correct adapter it should theoretically operate with thrid-party lenses with integral leaf-shutters. right? Leica-S for example?

    It does not offer global e-shutter on the current sensor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulfric Douglas View Post
    Let me get this straight : the body has no shutter but the two introduced lenses have integral leaf-shutters.

    With the correct adapter it should theoretically operate with thrid-party lenses with integral leaf-shutters. right? Leica-S for example?

    It does not offer global e-shutter on the current sensor?
    In theory it should work. Leica did an H adapter so why not Hassy make a S adapter ? For the global e-shutter I do not know.
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    Re: Hasselblad X1D

    I am thrilled that Hasselblad worked on and released such a product. It is healthy for photography industry as a whole. I think its really good news for medium format genre.
    I'm sure it will attract many from 135 to medium format. The quality of lenses will dictate as to how successful it eventually becomes.

    I hope it becomes a roaring success - having said that, personally I will not be a buyer.

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    If I was looking to get into medium format again I would have ordered the X1D several hours ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DougDolde View Post
    I really could see dumping my XF / IQ180 for this new X1D. The XF is unbearably heavy especially with the 40-80mm attached. Yes I'd lose a bit of resolution and C1 but the small lightweight Blad plus high ISO capability would make up for that.

    Anyone else have the same thoughts ?
    Do not be concerned about the loss of pixels (50mp vs 80mp). While I had my Leaf 50 and Phase IQ180 I compared a lot of same shot files and was really more than satisfied with the Leaf files.... even after printing and comparing the same files out to 40 inches. The 50mp sensor is simply fantastic.

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    i cant help thinking what sonys version of this camera would look like? probably not as nice to look at and the usual horrific menu system but face detection, on-chip AF and a set of lenses made by zeiss.
    if they see the X1D succeed they may want a slice of that pie. its certainly well within their technological capability.
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    Re: Hasselblad X1D

    Quote Originally Posted by DougDolde View Post
    I really could see dumping my XF / IQ180 for this new X1D. The XF is unbearably heavy especially with the 40-80mm attached. Yes I'd lose a bit of resolution and C1 but the small lightweight Blad plus high ISO capability would make up for that.

    Anyone else have the same thoughts ?
    Yes, I am as well. As the image quality of the alternatives either approach medium format digital or, in the case of the X1D, ARE medium format digital, I have a hard time justifying the size and weight of my full medium format H1/IQ180 kit anymore. I am a photographer, not a beast of burden.

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    Re: Hasselblad X1D

    Quote Originally Posted by MrSmith View Post
    i cant help thinking what sonys version of this camera would look like? probably not as nice to look at and the usual horrific menu system but face detection, on-chip AF and a set of lenses made by zeiss.
    if they see the X1D succeed they may want a slice of that pie. its certainly well within their technological capability.
    Maybe Sony will turn the tables and offer a version of the X1D at 3 times the price with carbon fiber or exotic wood grips and fancier dials with little gemstones on top in a really fancy laquered wood box that's useless for anything.

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