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Guy, I think you have cut to the chase here. A good reminder that this is THE issue, and still a complete unknown. Given the circumstances and continuing search for the bottom of this economic chasm the world has fallen into, it's a serious issue more than at any time in my career.Wait one more comment. I am still worried how they will price this . I will mostly likely say this again too. This right now is a BIG issue given what is going on in the world and the work that seems to be sliding away for many folks of all walks of life.
Hi Marc (and everyone).Unless Leica can source customers from other sectors, it seems a difficult task. One I'm sure they are struggling with as we speak. I do hope they succeed, because I'd like them around when my business recovers to the degree that I can re-instate questionable decisions based on the heart rather than survival.
Of course, I always forget about that. What is the MTF like compared to the 110/2? What about the lens in general?Most likely the central shutter diameter is the limiting factor!? But I won't talk about the MTF at f2.2, that's a different story..."Ah right, forgot that one. I wonder why Hasselblad went from 110/2 to 100/2.2? Does anyone have any insight? Was Fuji unable to do a good f2 lens?"
Why? They just do the same as anyone else: update the speed of the electronics slightly and release the same body with a new sensor...Sooner or later the S2's form is gowing to run out of real estate as they compete against higher-MP larger sensor kits AND a sea of 22-39 used kits at prices that make todays look like 2 years ago as people move upstream. At some point they will need to either slash prices hard and/or undertake a costly re-design of the S2, maybe even move to the traditional Back+Body design -- as they watch N & C coming on hard in their rearview mirrors.
I think that what I'm trying to say is that this market place is infinitely larger than that of MF people wishing to simplify. In fact, potentially I think it's a larger market than all the current MF market put together.Bottom line thoughts.....target buyers are more the top end 35mm DLSR folks pushing their gear to do similar MF stuff, but as a 35mm handling machine.
LJ
You missed out 4:1) Pros replacing/upgrading from an existing system?
2) Well-heeled pros who can afford a secondary system for niche use or simply a shiny new gadget (we all know that allure).
3) Leica/general enthusiasts (excluding the odd sale) who can afford to and lust to step up their game (ideally with Leica)?
I just don't agree with this - I don't think a sea of cheap 22 and 39 kits is going to have anything to do with a fresh market - except with existing users - same arguments apply.Sooner or later the S2's form is gowing to run out of real estate as they compete against higher-MP larger sensor kits AND a sea of 22-39 used kits at prices that make todays look like 2 years ago as people move upstream. At some point they will need to either slash prices hard and/or undertake a costly re-design of the S2, maybe even move to the traditional Back+Body design -- as they watch N & C coming on hard in their rearview mirrors.
I do agree with this - but fortune honours the brave!All I can say is, good or bad, genius or lunatic, somebody in Solms has/had (excuse my bluntness) balls.
Seems to me that their current problem is getting decent glass for the sensors they already have.It's not far from the dilemma faced by Canon, Nikon and Sony with 24x36 24MP+ sensors - how far can they stretch that sensor's density before they need to reach for the 'reset button', move up the food chain - and start poaching glass gurus from H and M? Big $$, but may be necessary as MFDB kist keep dropping in value and moving downstream.
Whether Nikon was planning an MX or not - I can't see it appearing for some time to come - and the idea that they'll produce lenses as nice as these Leica one's look seems to me to be pretty far fetched.Look at the Nikon MX rumors. The first one of C or N to do that will compel the other, followed in X years by Sony, to do the same and suddenly the S2 has DIRECT form-factor competition of a very nasty nature.
Marc,"....unless they are still needing high ISO, speed, fps speed, teles, etc."
Hmmm, if you didn't need that, why would you even have a 35mm DSLR?
The Leica DMR, introduced in 2004, had offset micro lenses too.Just a small remark regarding offset microlenses:
The (discontinued) Kodak KAF-18000 sensor (used in the P21 and P21+ backs) had offset microlenses and this was back in 2006...
Yair