Site Sponsors
Page 2 of 5 FirstFirst 1 2 3 4 ... LastLast
Results 51 to 100 of 229

Thread: The Fuji GFX

  1. #51
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Little Rock AR
    Posts
    1,616
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: The Fuji GFX

    Never a fan of the X1D, already liking the design of the Fuji. The body is more SLR like (great) and it follows an already great layout of the X-T2. It's a DSLR (thanks again Fuji) nice grip and battery grip look good.

    LCD moves (thanks Fuji) sorry as you grow older this become a lot more important.

    The viewfinder's rotational design is very nice too, which will make vertical work very easy.

    Paul C

    Name:  fujifilm-gfx-3.jpg
Views: 695
Size:  95.9 KB

  2. #52

  3. #53
    Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    Singer Island, Florida
    Posts
    114
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: The Fuji GFX

    I'm a little late to the party here but based on price expectation alone, I think someone at Hasselblad just threw-up in their mouth a little bit.

  4. #54
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    Eads, Tennessee
    Posts
    836
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: The Fuji GFX

    I also am not a fan of focus by wire having had my fill with the Sony lenses for A7 series. If they are standard helical focus then great..... or at least a smoother more predictable focus by wire. The image above of the camera and 110 lens looks very pretty. Not taking anything away from the Hassy offering which is very cool..... so far I think these are two home runs.

    Victor

  5. #55
    Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2015
    Posts
    155
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: The Fuji GFX

    Quote Originally Posted by BlinkingEye View Post
    I'm a little late to the party here but based on price expectation alone, I think someone at Hasselblad just threw-up in their mouth a little bit.
    maybe, but there is no competition, the gfx is not "hand made in Sweden" !

  6. #56
    Super Duper
    Senior Member

    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Netherlands
    Posts
    12,724
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    40

    Re: The Fuji GFX

    While the GFX is not exactly ugly, without any doubt, the X1D is very sleek looking.

  7. #57
    Administrator, Instructor Guy Mancuso's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Arizona
    Posts
    23,530
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    2555

    Re: The Fuji GFX

    And the Hassy is not made in Japan. So what's the issue
    Photography is all about experimentation and without it you will never learn art.

    www.guymancusophotography.com
    Likes 1 Member(s) liked this post

  8. #58
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    Eads, Tennessee
    Posts
    836
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: The Fuji GFX

    Quote Originally Posted by CSP View Post
    maybe, but there is no competition, the gfx is not "hand made in Sweden" !
    You are so right...... its made in Japan!! Maybe the only better place would be China. I am convinced that the Chinese can build anything to any specification on a consistent basis.

    Victor

  9. #59
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Posts
    491
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: The Fuji GFX

    Quote Originally Posted by vjbelle View Post
    I also am not a fan of focus by wire having had my fill with the Sony lenses for A7 series. If they are standard helical focus then great.....
    No camera which uses contrast AF will offer standard helical focus.

  10. #60
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    Eads, Tennessee
    Posts
    836
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: The Fuji GFX

    Even though for some this isn't necessary I'll just repeat what I have posted previously. The Sony 50MP sensor is fantastic!! I know that some will say that its already 'old' but until Sony releases something newer this is it. I wouldn't hesitate printing all the way out to 40 inches and maybe even a little beyond with those 50MP. I just need to find a use for one of these new beauties.....

    Victor

  11. #61
    Senior Member etrump's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Posts
    1,174
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: The Fuji GFX

    Indeed, perhaps they are building Hasselblad X1D as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by CSP View Post
    fuji has a history of building wonderful medium format cameras, the gx 680 was a class of its own and far better than anything mamiya and hasselblad offerd. i think that the new fuji can become a real game changer, in the real world and not in press releases. when hasselblad announced the x1d i was very exited but it very much seems that hasselblad handicapped this camera on propose so it does not become to attractive and they can still keep selling the h6 bodys. fuji is in total other position....

  12. #62
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    Eads, Tennessee
    Posts
    836
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: The Fuji GFX

    Quote Originally Posted by jerome_m View Post
    No camera which uses contrast AF will offer standard helical focus.
    I'll take your word for it...... beyond my expertise. Focus by wire it is......

    Victor

  13. #63
    Senior Member etrump's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Posts
    1,174
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: The Fuji GFX

    FPS could easily be replaced with electronic front and perhaps even rear shutter like silent shooting on A7rII
    Quote Originally Posted by tashley View Post
    Reasons:


    Also, the FPS, whilst allowing the higher shutter speeds, will also introduce the risk of shutter shock. And add to the weight. So for me the trade off of lower maximum shutter speeds for smaller form factor and weight and less risk of shake is worth it.

    .

  14. #64
    New Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Posts
    18
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: The Fuji GFX

    Anyone do a weight comparison? The Hasselblad is listed at 750 grams for body plus battery. I can't find the weight of the Fuji listed anywhere.

  15. #65
    Super Duper
    Senior Member

    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Netherlands
    Posts
    12,724
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    40

    Re: The Fuji GFX

    Quote Originally Posted by SGreenberg View Post
    Anyone do a weight comparison? The Hasselblad is listed at 750 grams for body plus battery. I can't find the weight of the Fuji listed anywhere.
    850gms. It is a bit heavier. It does incorporate a shutter and a tilt LCD.

    Edit: scroll down to gfx here: Photokina 2016: All the best new cameras for 2016 from the show - Pocket-lint

  16. #66
    Subscriber Member tashley's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    South of England
    Posts
    2,983
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: The Fuji GFX

    Quote Originally Posted by SGreenberg View Post
    Anyone do a weight comparison? The Hasselblad is listed at 750 grams for body plus battery. I can't find the weight of the Fuji listed anywhere.
    And I'm sure there's a good reason for that...

  17. #67
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Munich
    Posts
    774
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    1

    Re: The Fuji GFX

    Quote Originally Posted by tashley View Post
    And I'm sure there's a good reason for that...


    Why should that be ? It's pretty clear it's 850...

  18. #68
    Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2015
    Posts
    221
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: The Fuji GFX

    Quote Originally Posted by tashley View Post
    And I'm sure there's a good reason for that...
    With comments like these it really seems like you're looking for justifications to stick with the 'Blad rather than finding any serious flaw with the Fuji. Especially when you think the Fuji will have shutter shock, and won't be built well (Thingness? You've never even handled either), based on absolutely no information and 100% conjecture. You could just say you want to own a Hasselblad because it's a Hasselblad. That's fine. But inventing deficiencies in the GFX is a waste of everyone's time. There are good reasons to own either, you don't have to dog the other to make your point.

    The Fuji to me looks more like a professional platform and the Hasselblad looks more like a system focused on being as compact as possible. Both cameras have their place, it's all what you want to use them for. I wouldn't try to shoot a wedding with the Blad, and I wouldn't want the Fuji on an international trip.
    Likes 2 Member(s) liked this post

  19. #69
    Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    34
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: The Fuji GFX

    I didn't see the full specs.

    What is the flash sync with the Fuji GFX?

    Robb

  20. #70
    Senior Member Stefan Steib's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Lindenberg im Allgäu
    Posts
    1,280
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    12

    Re: The Fuji GFX

    on the fujirumors page there is one video that shows definitely: the GFX has an FPS.
    there is even a guy who designed this shutter.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ggikv6m8FNs

    Yihaaaaa ! That was, what I was waiting for. Now the party can start.

    Sorry Blad. Fuji 100 points. Blad Zero.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Bildschirmfoto 2016-09-19 um 22.44.00.jpg 
Views:	5 
Size:	18.4 KB 
ID:	121280  
    because photography is more than technology - and " as we have done this all the time "
    facebook:hcam.de - www.hcam.de - www.hartblei.de
    Thanks 1 Member(s) thanked for this post

  21. #71
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Little Rock AR
    Posts
    1,616
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: The Fuji GFX

    good points on the shutter Shock, no mention if this camera will have electronic first curtain, type setup or not. But it does have a bit more mass then the A7r, which had the problem the worst.
    Fuji since the X-T1 (maybe earlier) has offered the fully electronic shutter offering, so they may have this in the new camera. No shock with that.

    Also cannot find any notes on video, may not offer video (not a big deal for me) but may be for others.

    Paul C

  22. #72
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Location
    Oxford
    Posts
    575
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: The Fuji GFX

    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan Steib View Post
    on the fujirumors page there is one video that shows definitely: the GFX has an FPS.
    there is even a guy who designed this shutter.

    Yihaaaaa ! That was, what I was waiting for. Now the party can start.

    Sorry Blad. Fuji 100 points. Blad Zero.
    So the advantage of a focal plane shutter is the versatility to be used on a technical camera such like the Cambo Arctus?

    The Fuji GFX seems to be a tad heavier than a Phase One/Leaf digital back though.
    Likes 1 Member(s) liked this post

  23. #73
    Subscriber Member tashley's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    South of England
    Posts
    2,983
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: The Fuji GFX

    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher View Post
    Why should that be ? It's pretty clear it's 850...
    Because I spent the first hour after the release announcement trying to find that data, which was not in the press release at least initially. And it struck me that for those considering the Fuji as an alternative to the Hassy, whose weight was already published and is low, and whose early bird discount is about to run out (at my dealer at least) that if weight was an important factor and the Fuji was notably heavier, it might be discreet to leave the data out.

    As it is, I see 800gr and 850gr bandied about in different places but little specificity as to whether that is with our without batteries and or EVF. Depending on the way those parameters combine it could easily end up being 950+ which might make it less attractive to some than the Hassy.

  24. #74
    Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2015
    Posts
    221
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: The Fuji GFX

    Quote Originally Posted by voidshatter View Post
    So the advantage of a focal plane shutter is the versatility to be used on a technical camera such like the Cambo Arctus?

    The Fuji GFX seems to be a tad heavier than a Phase One/Leaf digital back though.
    To ME the advantage is 1/4000th of a second. You could also say that an advantage is the ability to adapt any lens you want. There are like 6 people left using tech cameras and they are all on this site so I don't think that will make or break the Fuji's success.
    Likes 1 Member(s) liked this post

  25. #75
    Senior Member Jamgolf's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Location
    North Texas
    Posts
    326
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: The Fuji GFX

    Quote Originally Posted by Speedgraphic View Post
    There are like 6 people left using tech cameras and they are all on this site so I don't think that will make or break the Fuji's success.
    No way. You are severely underestimating number of tech-cam users.
    Actual number might be 10X your estimate
    IQ3 100 H • Cambo 1200 • Rodenstock 32HR 90HRSW
    UnTroubled Land
    Likes 3 Member(s) liked this post

  26. #76
    Super Duper
    Senior Member

    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Netherlands
    Posts
    12,724
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    40

    Re: The Fuji GFX

    Quote Originally Posted by tashley View Post

    As it is, I see 800gr and 850gr bandied about in different places but little specificity as to whether that is with our without batteries and or EVF. Depending on the way those parameters combine it could easily end up being 950+ which might make it less attractive to some than the Hassy.
    According to Ken Rockwell, the weight of Nikon 810 with battery is 965gms.

    No big deal.

  27. #77
    Subscriber Member tashley's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    South of England
    Posts
    2,983
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: The Fuji GFX

    Quote Originally Posted by Speedgraphic View Post
    With comments like these it really seems like you're looking for justifications to stick with the 'Blad rather than finding any serious flaw with the Fuji. Especially when you think the Fuji will have shutter shock, and won't be built well (Thingness? You've never even handled either), based on absolutely no information and 100% conjecture. You could just say you want to own a Hasselblad because it's a Hasselblad. That's fine. But inventing deficiencies in the GFX is a waste of everyone's time. There are good reasons to own either, you don't have to dog the other to make your point.

    The Fuji to me looks more like a professional platform and the Hasselblad looks more like a system focused on being as compact as possible. Both cameras have their place, it's all what you want to use them for. I wouldn't try to shoot a wedding with the Blad, and I wouldn't want the Fuji on an international trip.
    Well here's my gentle riposte: the 'thingness' of a thing is indeed somewhat intangible and hard to judge without having handled either but in my opinion the Hassy *looks* like it has that intangible thing and I can tell from the pictures of the Fuji that for me at least, it won't. That's my personal feel for thingness, for a camera that feels like it isn't another cookie cutter design that looks like all the others in the dealers' windows. It isn't logical, I clearly admitted that. But for me, for my anticipated use, it's a deficiency. Your mileage can vary by as much as you like and I wish you well with it.

    I wasn't 'dogging' the Fuji at all as I think my post makes clear. A leaf shutter will, all things being equal, be less prone to shock than a FPS even if there is EFC, because even a physical rear curtain has to be triggered and start moving while the sensor is still being exposed. I *think* that's a fact, however marginal it might or might not prove to be in real world use. Also, and we will have to wait for more data, one might guess that the Sony sensor will give less DR with an EFC as is indeed the case with the A7RII when thusly deployed.

    You are right that both will have their place - and I made clear that for my use-case, the Hassy looks more useful. But until both machines are tried and tested in full, none of us know and all of us are guessing. I'm fine with that. If I wasn't, I wouldn't be in a thread which by necessity is all about speculation.
    Likes 3 Member(s) liked this post

  28. #78
    Super Duper
    Senior Member

    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Posts
    3,213
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: The Fuji GFX

    Going by all I've seen and read of both systems and their current and future potential (as much as one can conjecture about future development based on specs), the Hassy and Fuji mirrorless mf systems will have somewhat divergent markets and of course the usual strengths and weaknesses...ie: tradeoffs, some of which will also be dependent on intended use and ones own preferences. As we know all too well, it's when some of us gets hands one or both these systems and puts them through their paces in actual use, providing useful "objective" feedback, will we begin to form valuable opinions. Think how often we either disparaged (maybe too strong a word in this context), or gushed over a new system, only to find operationally or otherwise, that our preliminary impressions just after such announcements are made, become quite different in time. I too consider myself guilty in this department. Neverless these recent develops in this market are certainly interesting, to say the least.

    Dave (D&A)

  29. #79
    Super Duper
    Senior Member

    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Netherlands
    Posts
    12,724
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    40

    Re: The Fuji GFX

    Quote Originally Posted by tashley View Post

    Also, and we will have to wait for more data, one might guess that the Sony sensor will give less DR with an EFC as is indeed the case with the A7RII when thusly deployed.
    Tim, That is factually wrong. Get your facts right before drawing any conclusions.

  30. #80
    Member
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Posts
    36
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: The Fuji GFX

    Is it just me or has anyone else noticed the most important feature of the GFX. In the video they have posted of the fashion shoot, the photographer is quite clearly shooting tethered to C1 PRO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Likes 1 Member(s) liked this post

  31. #81
    Subscriber Member tashley's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    South of England
    Posts
    2,983
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: The Fuji GFX

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    Tim, That is factually wrong. Get your facts right before drawing any conclusions.
    DPReview amongst others have noted that use of the EFC on the A7RII makes for noisier shadows. In my book (and in theirs) that means less effective DR. EFC also causes problems with fluorescent lights (not a problem for me) and can cause a rolling shutter effect too.

    I believe those are all facts, and fairly straight ones.

    In other words, EFC is not a 'free lunch'.

    Neither is a leaf shutter. Clearly it allows higher flash sync speeds but it restricts maximum shutter speeds and it restricts which lenses can be adapted for use on a body that relies on leaf shutter lenses. I think we're most of us aware of most of this?

    EDIT: as Vivek has so pithily pointed out below, I have in the above post mistakenly conflated EFC with silent shutter (electronic first and second curtain) shooting. I won't be doing that in public again....
    Last edited by tashley; 19th September 2016 at 16:16.

  32. #82
    Subscriber & Workshop Member GrahamWelland's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Vancouver, WA
    Posts
    5,429
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    539

    Re: The Fuji GFX

    Quote Originally Posted by photo570 View Post
    Is it just me or has anyone else noticed the most important feature of the GFX. In the video they have posted of the fashion shoot, the photographer is quite clearly shooting tethered to C1 PRO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I thought that was pretty significant too. I'm not going to get too excited yet because they could have just been shooting into a hot folder and using another converter but I somehow doubt that Fuji would have let the videos out showing the screens if it wasn't the real deal.

    Time will tell ...
    Ylem ...
    Likes 1 Member(s) liked this post

  33. #83
    Subscriber & Workshop Member GrahamWelland's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Vancouver, WA
    Posts
    5,429
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    539

    Re: The Fuji GFX

    Quote Originally Posted by tashley View Post
    Well here's my gentle riposte: the 'thingness' of a thing is indeed somewhat intangible and hard to judge without having handled either but in my opinion the Hassy *looks* like it has that intangible thing and I can tell from the pictures of the Fuji that for me at least, it won't. That's my personal feel for thingness, for a camera that feels like it isn't another cookie cutter design that looks like all the others in the dealers' windows. It isn't logical, I clearly admitted that. But for me, for my anticipated use, it's a deficiency. Your mileage can vary by as much as you like and I wish you well with it.
    As regards 'thingness', I must say that the Fuji does look more like a 'usable' camera system with ergonomics oriented around real world use vs superb styling. I'll take those shaped grips and tactile buttons & dials over the sleek design of the HassySLAB any day. The EVF and tilt LCD screens too tick boxes on my list.

    But as you say, best to sit back and wait and see what reality brings. Will the X1D be a lot faster in production form? Will the Fuji have the promised image quality? etc etc.
    Ylem ...

  34. #84
    Super Duper
    Senior Member

    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Netherlands
    Posts
    12,724
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    40

    Re: The Fuji GFX

    Quote Originally Posted by tashley View Post
    DPReview amongst others have noted that use of the EFC on the A7RII makes for noisier shadows. In my book, that means less effective DR. EFC also causes problems with fluorescent lights (not a problem for me) and can cause a rolling shutter effect too.

    I believe those are all facts, and fairly straight ones.

    In other words, EFC is not a 'free lunch'.
    Jeez! I guess you do not understand what causes a drop in DR and what does not!

    EFCS = Electronic First Curtain Shutter. No drop in DR or rolling shutter!

    Electronic shutter aka "silent shutter" with no moving mechanic parts, there is a drop in DR and it also causes rolling shutter and problems with fluorescent light (banding).

  35. #85
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Massachusetts and Vermont
    Posts
    509
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: The Fuji GFX

    Quote Originally Posted by Speedgraphic View Post
    ...and I wouldn't want the Fuji on an international trip.
    Case closed for me, because that's exactly what I want.

  36. #86
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Massachusetts and Vermont
    Posts
    509
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: The Fuji GFX

    My understanding is that the Sony sensor does not have an EFCS capability, so the potential for shutter shock with the Fuji
    is real.
    hcubell
    www.howardcubell.com
    Likes 1 Member(s) liked this post

  37. #87
    Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Tasmania
    Posts
    82
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    13

    Re: The Fuji GFX

    Dynamic range, frames per second? Medium format sports photography at a modest price using third party lenses?

  38. #88
    Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Vienna, Austria
    Posts
    134
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: The Fuji GFX

    Quote Originally Posted by Speedgraphic View Post
    The fact that multi-aspect ratios are not available in DSLRs and even in cameras like the A7 is absurd. Sony gives you 3:2 or 16:9. Who the hell is shooting stills in 16:9? 4:3 crop would soooo useful to me but no camera maker wants to implement this ultra simple feature. The D810 will do 8x10 ratio in VF but I prefer to shoot 4:3 at my weddings generally. That comes from shooting so much 645 I suppose.
    Right on, this is so true!

  39. #89
    Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Location
    France
    Posts
    161
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: The Fuji GFX

    Not so sure he's shooting tethered, and the pics in the C1 browser are JPGs.
    Quote Originally Posted by photo570 View Post
    Is it just me or has anyone else noticed the most important feature of the GFX. In the video they have posted of the fashion shoot, the photographer is quite clearly shooting tethered to C1 PRO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  40. #90
    Subscriber Member tashley's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    South of England
    Posts
    2,983
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: The Fuji GFX

    Quote Originally Posted by hcubell View Post
    My understanding is that the Sony sensor does not have an EFCS capability, so the potential for shutter shock with the Fuji
    is real.
    That sounds right - though I have also read that Fuji are claiming that this is a new sensor, implying that it isn't the same 50mp Sony unit found in other cameras - though maybe it is and they simply asked for some bespoke tweaks?

  41. #91
    Super Duper
    Senior Member
    iiiNelson's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Texas/California/North Carolina
    Posts
    2,774
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: The Fuji GFX

    Sooooo are we really gonna start a "brand war" on two unreleased cameras!?! Sweet Jesus...

    So here's the thing. Both cameras look great.

    My main concern over the X1D would be no tilting screen, shutter speed outdoors if/when faster lenses are released and the long term build quality of leaf shuttered lenses (mostly due to my own ignorance) for a camera that won't always be in studio. Other than that - I'd love a 4116 version in all black.

    My main concern for the Fuji would be X-sync maximum speed, software support for a dedicated MF system, and if lighting companies are going to put out Fuji compatible wireless controllers. The body seems great and if the price of entry is closer to $8k with the normal lens than $10k then I think they'll have a winner. If the quality was there I'd dump a few bodies that weren't my A7RII and just keep the long lenses for it.
    Priolite Ambassador | Sony Visible Light & IR Photographer
    http://www.iiinelsonimages.com
    Likes 3 Member(s) liked this post

  42. #92
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Location
    Hamburg/Beijing
    Posts
    179
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    3

    Re: The Fuji GFX

    FPS, well, THAT's the game changer, the A7 of MF

    i am not necessarily interested myself, but i am quite sure that fuji will sell tons of those!

  43. #93
    Subscriber and Workshop Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    2,507
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: The Fuji GFX

    No brand war here ... folks just talking ... about a lot of unknowns.

    Me ... I know Hasselblad ... from 1984 through the present ... and if they just attempt to
    maintain the quality it will all work.

    I have done the Fuji thing ... with H1 H2 H3D 39 lenses and all the newer X cameras. Had an XPan ....

    Nothing revealed today is of significant detail to make any decision .... although I have re confirmed my
    commitment to the X1D.

    If Fuji is focus by wire .... then the whole MF real camera thing is a bit degraded ... for me enough of
    a concern that I will pass on this camera until all the smoke and mirrors clear.

    Hasselblad rates their camera lenses with leaf shutters at 2 million exposures ... never, never seen a FP shutter
    that has that kind of rating ... 300 - 400K at the best. So a non issue. Nikon TTL ... am hoping that the Profoto D2s
    will work with the X1D.

    Honestly ... either camera is so far above the current FF offerings that it will be hard to go wrong.

    Black X1D without the 4116 label would be my preference ... just hate schtick .... especially when it
    is poorly done. .... IMHO.

    All my 500 and 903/5s were chrome ... guess that I will continue in that direction.

    Oh ... if the V1D becomes a reality then all the lenses with the X1D will not be redundant.

    The Fuji looks great ... and I know they will deliver with respect to quality and color science.

    Bob
    Likes 1 Member(s) liked this post

  44. #94
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Melbourne, Australia
    Posts
    2,270
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    52

    Re: The Fuji GFX

    I'm waiting for the people who criticised Hasselblad/Fuji lens connection to tell me how bad Fuji is for Fuji.

    Finally the MF market is approaching 21st century user friendliness - CMOS and EVF and two companies offering choices -

    BANG!

    My local Phase One dealer is not happy <sad face>

    All good news - for those who need 50 megapixels is it not?

    I'm thinking Fuji's focal plane shutter will appeal to those who like the idea of adapting lenses to a system along with tilt swivel LCD - again for those that need it.

    Deep breath required to now acquire all information realted to what Fuji is promising to deliver V what Hasselblad is promising to deliver.

    It will probably get down to quality of EVF viewing experience for me - Hasselblad is 2.3M pixels Fuji is?

  45. #95
    Administrator, Instructor Guy Mancuso's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Arizona
    Posts
    23,530
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    2555

    Re: The Fuji GFX

    Wow. My only comment is it's something worth looking at. Just another option. Not getting into brand wars but a lot if bad data here I'm reading.
    Photography is all about experimentation and without it you will never learn art.

    www.guymancusophotography.com
    Thanks 1 Member(s) thanked for this post
    Likes 2 Member(s) liked this post

  46. #96
    Super Duper
    Senior Member

    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Posts
    3,213
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: The Fuji GFX

    Patience, Patience. This is why I wrote what I did in an earlier post (below). There will be both fans and advantages and disadvantages to each system and as time and development of each system proceeds, views might also change.

    Quote Originally Posted by D&A View Post
    Going by all I've seen and read of both systems and their current and future potential (as much as one can conjecture about future development based on specs), the Hassy and Fuji mirrorless mf systems will have somewhat divergent markets and of course the usual strengths and weaknesses...ie: tradeoffs, some of which will also be dependent on intended use and ones own preferences. As we know all too well, it's when some of us gets hands one or both these systems and puts them through their paces in actual use, providing useful "objective" feedback, will we begin to form valuable opinions. Think how often we either disparaged (maybe too strong a word in this context), or gushed over a new system, only to find operationally or otherwise, that our preliminary impressions just after such announcements are made, become quite different in time. I too consider myself guilty in this department. Neverless these recent develops in this market are certainly interesting, to say the least.

    Dave (D&A)
    Last edited by D&A; 19th September 2016 at 19:20.

  47. #97
    Senior Member Ed Hurst's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Sydney
    Posts
    1,095
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: The Fuji GFX

    So, based on the flange distance and the presence of a FPS, anyone have any idea what other lenses might be usable with this body? Going to be a long list I think!

  48. #98
    Administrator, Instructor Guy Mancuso's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Arizona
    Posts
    23,530
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    2555

    Re: The Fuji GFX

    It takes a couple days to sift through all the data and see what makes sense. I would actually rather have a focal plane shutter. And BTW many leaf shutters do have a weak spot too so they are not perfect either. This really depends on what you like to do. If you like wide open stuff than focal is a asset. Anyway we need to see these in play . I like the Hassy as well but deciding which is better for YOU is all that counts, not what anyone else needs are.
    Photography is all about experimentation and without it you will never learn art.

    www.guymancusophotography.com
    Likes 2 Member(s) liked this post

  49. #99
    Senior Member kdphotography's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Carmel/Tucson
    Posts
    2,197
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: The Fuji GFX

    Actually, the very best advice and to get the very best deal on either the Fuji or the Hassy---is to simply get the camera that Guy is going to get.

    No literally. Wait until Guy buys the camera, gets bored and sells it two months later on GetDPI...


  50. #100
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Melbourne, Australia
    Posts
    2,270
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    52

    Re: The Fuji GFX

    Fuji has hit the market with a real game changer, lens roll out timetable is impressive as are the two lenses on either side of the list - the 19mm equivalent wide and the super fast 100 ....

    focal plane shutter may appeal - but tbh I don't fancy the crop that 35mm Otus or Milvus lenses would deliver to this larger chip so I wouldn't have much need for it...using the camera as a chip to mount on a tech camera gizmo so I can then use Rodenstocks? I'm over the hassle factor...

    Still no info on actual resolution of EFV - which for me is THE factor also I've been using C1 as much as Lightroom these days - I doubt C1 will 'open' itsel;f up to another serious MF competitor- time to change policy (please) C1?

    WOW is all I can say - we have 2 choices now in MF/EVF mirrorless market.

    and (off topic) looks like Olympus has delivered its own BANG in its new camera....

    Photokina delivers ( again)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •