Shot this image to test for rolling shutter. ISO 3200, f11, 1/50.
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I also agree with what Paul has said...... this is a very welcome feature for me. It will probably taker the next iteration of sensors for the incorporation of a complete on/off shutter type effect. In the mean time this step is very welcome.....
Victor
The thought of incorporating Copal electronic shutters is mind boggling. Talk about spending money and then having to spend more money on a control device that adds extra weight and complication. All of the points covered by Paul's post point out the incredible benefits of this feature.For the tech camera users, this is a huge move forward, as you are now free of the Copal shutter, and it's totally non-accurate shutter speeds, and now can also gain 1/3 or 1/2 stops which to me is a nice feature, but just being able to get true 1/30, 1/60 1/125 and 1/250 is a big plus. Not to mention you are free from the other side of the equation, an electronic shutter for each tech camera lens, that needs it's own battery, and controller and most are limited to 1/250th as the fastest shutter speed. The the cost and additional weight, and mass of an ES on a tech lens has always made such a solution non-tenable for me.
Paul C
Hi Paul -I can't really see the comparison to a Seitz 6 x 17, as the normal exposure is between 2 and 3 seconds in normal light as I understand it. A true scanning back.
The ES on the IQ100 operates between any selected shutter speed, i.e. 1 hour to 1/4000 at any ISO selected on the camera, more similar to the ES on a Fuji X-T1.
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Paul C
Moving water? Moving clouds? Moving trees and flowers? Snow?Obviously, the technology behind this is way over my head, and I can learn more from Erik and others, with the engineering background and always welcome the knowledge.
From my own perspective, as a photographer, I see this feature (ES) as a huge advantage, and not sure why Phase choose to hold it away from Kina.
Simple example, of where I have immediately found 100% improvement. Phase/Schneider 240LS lens, an amazing piece of glass, but heavy and it has not tripod collar. With the XF, I was finding that even with a remote release, shutter speeds of 1/8 to 1/30 could possible contain blur, slight blur, but easily noticed especially on distant subject matter (1 mile to 6 miles out). I was able to get a better result by adding in the RRS large lens stabilization tool. But that device is both heavy, and takes time to setup. Plus, it totally limits me to a horizontal capture and many times I want to go vertical. XF and Vertical just don't mix well as you can visually see the camera move when the mirror goes up, so vibration is there (note I was always in the Vibration reduction mode on the XF). Just touching the back to fire the camera adds movement and I have had mixed results with the 2 sec delay.
Yesterday, I took the same setup out and shot at 1/15 to 1/30 with the ES, you will get a full shutter action on the first frame and after than all you hear is the beep. I did use the remote release. The images were tack sharp, none with the slight blur, none showed any rolling movement problems (subject matter was outdoors, trees, leaves plants). Personally I can't see any delay either between firing the normal shutter and using the ES, as 1/15 and 1/30 and 1/60 all seem to take the same amount of time. I understand that the ES is reading by lines thus slower capturing the data slower than if fired by focal, but I am not seeing any issues for my normal photography and the benefits for long glass are 100% improved.
Overall a very positive step forward, and as Erik states, I am sure the next round will be a global ES, (not sure what Fuji has implemented on their X cameras, if it's a global or not, but it will shoot up to 1/32000, but has immediate problem with indoor lighting creating banding so I am assuming it's recording similar to how Phase One is?)
Paul C
Moving water? Moving clouds? Moving trees and flowers? Snow?
As stated by Christopher. No problems so far with any natural subjects.Moving water? Moving clouds? Moving trees and flowers? Snow?
Interesting. I have not used the Electronic Shutter on the A7RII, but my understanding was that it was not ready for prime time in the natural world.As stated by Christopher. No problems so far with any natural subjects.
Clouds, water or leaves. Water is blurred anyway due to the shutter speed I tend to work with.
Paul C
Interesting. I have not used the Electronic Shutter on the A7RII, but my understanding was that it was not ready for prime time in the natural world.
of course you think it was not ready for prime time when it fact it is very usable because it was sony and not your love brandInteresting. I have not used the Electronic Shutter on the A7RII, but my understanding was that it was not ready for prime time in the natural world.
:SPAM::banghead:of course you think it was not ready for prime time when it fact it is very usable because it was sony and not your love brand
I don't know what a "love brand" is, but you must have a very kinky imagination. It sounds like something you took from a Google translator. However, one thing I can say about me is that I am totally brand agnostic. In contrast to fan boys and haters (and CSP, you KNOW who the haters are), I buy them all and own them all. Phase, Hasselblad, Sony, Zeiss...They all make great camera gear. Some of it works for me. Some of it doesn't. If it doesn't work for me, I don't question why someone else thinks it works for him. You have that covered.of course you think it was not ready for prime time when it fact it is very usable because it was sony and not your love brand