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Where is the X1D ????
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pegelli
Well-known member
KR (not Ken Rockwell 
) didn't want the article to sound negative: Reaction by the Author
) didn't want the article to sound negative: Reaction by the Author
Godfrey
Well-known member
Therein lies the basic problem. This isn't news ... news is reportage: an event has happened, the news reports it. Later, an opinion publication might evaluate it.
Neither Hasselblad nor DJII have announced anything yet. So this isn't reportage, this piece is exposé ... essentially a rumor posted as fact, whether 'informed' or not. This is the kind of cr@p that the current g*****n news industry calls 'investigative reporting' ... and what I call "the making of sensation to fuel the fortunes of the reporter". As soon as I see this kind of cr@p from information sources that I have looked to for news and information, I stop looking to them because it means they've succumbed to the same disease that's destroyed news over and over again in the latter half of the past century. They're not reporting on events that have happened, they are creating sensation and (either by intent or not) trying to bend reality to give them a scoop.
Any credibility that KR ever had (not much for me...) is now gone.
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Vivek
Guest
Not really. KR is a well established web reviewer. There is only one KR in the camera world and that is the indomitable Ken Rockwell.
Fact!
Jamgolf
Member
I'll have to respectfully disagree...
If no one ever does any investigative reporting and we only find out after things actually happen then we may have some serious problems.
Verizon intending to buy Yahoo or Microsoft buying Nokia is important information. Traders & investors want that information. Yahoo, Verizon, Microsoft, Nokia etc. confirm/deny it much later, after it actually happens. If journalism only meant stating the obvious or what just happened, then we would not need any journalists.
I won't recognize Kevin Raber if he was standing next to me, but I do not have any problem with what he said.
Your world and your fact, maybe not others.Not really. KR is a well established web reviewer. There is only one KR in the camera world and that is the indomitable Ken Rockwell.
Fact!
Shashin
Well-known member
I am not really sure what the fuss is about. Hasselblad has had financial problems for some time. The fact that another company has decided to invest in the company and has become a majority shareholder is not really news--someone is usually a majority shareholder of a company.
I hate to break the bad news, but on the whole, the camera industry is shrinking. Products are become more expensive and the customer base is decreasing. Every manufacturer is trying to come up with a model that works in a climate that that not only has no precedent, but also is rapidly changing. Putting the devaluation of creative work and photography on top of that, my recommendation if you want to make money, don't go into camera manufacturing, at least not in the consumer markets.
First, LuLa is not a new outlet. Kevin's piece is an informed opinion. I found some of it insightful, some not. But no one has a complete picture. Obviously his idea that Contax (Kyocera) could have owned the medium-format world is way off base, but the cycle of resent ownership of Hasselblad and their rebranding of Sony cameras is not good news is close to the mark.
Perhaps the X1D is Hasselblad's roll of the dice to stay in business. I hope it works, although though they have really botched the roll out, the camera system itself might overcome that liability.
I hate to break the bad news, but on the whole, the camera industry is shrinking. Products are become more expensive and the customer base is decreasing. Every manufacturer is trying to come up with a model that works in a climate that that not only has no precedent, but also is rapidly changing. Putting the devaluation of creative work and photography on top of that, my recommendation if you want to make money, don't go into camera manufacturing, at least not in the consumer markets.
First, LuLa is not a new outlet. Kevin's piece is an informed opinion. I found some of it insightful, some not. But no one has a complete picture. Obviously his idea that Contax (Kyocera) could have owned the medium-format world is way off base, but the cycle of resent ownership of Hasselblad and their rebranding of Sony cameras is not good news is close to the mark.
Perhaps the X1D is Hasselblad's roll of the dice to stay in business. I hope it works, although though they have really botched the roll out, the camera system itself might overcome that liability.
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Vivek
Guest
My fact counts in my world as far as my wallet is concerned and no KR has any place in it.
Of course, it may be different for others.
MGrayson
Subscriber and Workshop Member
Godfrey,
The alternative is "press release" news, where corporations and politicians tell us what wonderful things they have done, what terrible things their competitors/opponents have done, and how we're supposed to react. We've seen both extremes in the past few decades to our immense detriment. Integrity in journalism is neither making things up, nor being a parrot.
--Matt
The alternative is "press release" news, where corporations and politicians tell us what wonderful things they have done, what terrible things their competitors/opponents have done, and how we're supposed to react. We've seen both extremes in the past few decades to our immense detriment. Integrity in journalism is neither making things up, nor being a parrot.
--Matt
Great points, Godfrey. I ceased going to LuLa long ago for this type of thing. MR was the ultimate Hasselblad hater, and it looks like Raber has taken on his persona.
If you've never heard of Kevin Raber before, on what planet do you live?
I'm pretty sure the author's intent is not to contribute to Hasselblad's future success, nor should it be. He's just stating facts that most in the camera industry are well aware of regarding marketing decisions at Hasselblad. How many pre orders for the Luna were placed from members here?...(crickets) Yeah, that's what i thought. It's about a former reputation that has been legendary and an iconic branding that only Leica can compare to. The camera industry is changing dramatically and really no one needs this insane planned obsolescence and upgrade cycles. Like the auto industry, the tooling costs must be outrageous on an annual basis. So, please write that story about the supposed change in the business model of Hasselblad if it will contribute to their success because a lot of people are still waiting for their X1D. In 2015 DJI Innovations doubled its annual revenue to 1 billion for a privately held company, not too shabby. Maybe there will be an X1D drone. Start writing!
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Vivek
Guest
Most in this planet have never heard of him. I am positive.
Also, more have heard about Ken.
KeithL
Well-known member
I would hazard a guess that most photographers have never heard of Luminous Landscape let alone Kevin Raber.
stephengilbert
Active member
I don't need intelligence briefing. I'm smart and I know stuff.
I guess nothing is true until the official announcement.
I guess nothing is true until the official announcement.
You had me until, "integrity in journalism".
tashley
Subscriber Member
Isn't that like implying that Ebert was of little use because he didn't make movies?
Erik Lundqvist
Member
I had another, totally unplanned, 1 on 1 with the X1D today and the latest, greatest firmware. Here are my observations:
- did not heat up excessively
- startup time was a lot faster as well. I did not time it, but it was certainly faster than 15 seconds
- auto focus seemed much snappier than last time and performed fine
- choosing focus point is awkward and unless you are on a tripod you will have to recompose
- EVF was less choppy
- did not crash even once!
I went to PearTree Photo in East London to buy a soft box so I did test the X1D using a strobe and my new soft box. While we were doing this we could not figure out how to turn off the 'preview exposure' feature which was rather annoying. Anyone knows how to do that?
Still feeling rather confident about my pre-order, but they did say they would not receive any more units until April. I have to check if my dealer is still confident about mid January.
- did not heat up excessively
- startup time was a lot faster as well. I did not time it, but it was certainly faster than 15 seconds
- auto focus seemed much snappier than last time and performed fine
- choosing focus point is awkward and unless you are on a tripod you will have to recompose
- EVF was less choppy
- did not crash even once!
I went to PearTree Photo in East London to buy a soft box so I did test the X1D using a strobe and my new soft box. While we were doing this we could not figure out how to turn off the 'preview exposure' feature which was rather annoying. Anyone knows how to do that?
Still feeling rather confident about my pre-order, but they did say they would not receive any more units until April. I have to check if my dealer is still confident about mid January.
KeithL
Well-known member
How were you choosing the focus point? Touch screen or wheels?