GrahamWelland
Subscriber & Workshop Member
Before or after we see a pic from a production shipping camera? :ROTFL:
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Where is the X1D ????
- Thread starter etto72
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Well, you did see a picture OF a production shipping camera.
JoshMerwin
Member
That's not a very big zoom range! :ROTFL:
ken_vs_ryu
Member
Thanks... I had heard that quite awhile ago, but then others with recent production lenses had said it sounded louder and more metallic, which, to me, that doesn't.
GrahamWelland
Subscriber & Workshop Member
For 2.3 fps someone might want to revisit their math because other than the first two shots that doesn't sound like > 1fps to me.
tashley
Subscriber Member
I've been using one today, but that's a demo united which I rented
Ahh! Erik! I greatly anticipate your feedback....
tashley
Subscriber Member
Right next to Hillary's jail cell and the Mexican wall.
Godfrey
Well-known member
For comparison (in a much quieter environment), Leica M and SL sounds:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFe00UU2hH3AxhBFp_zog_zwgocztsPyj
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JoshMerwin
Member
I can't say what they had it set on, but I posted a while ago from when I had a demo unit. I shot the stopwatch on the iPhone and it was very close to 2.3 FPS. The only trick/downside is that you don't see the image on the EVF in between each frame. This may be/hopefully changed with the next firmware update. The camera seems to be bypassing some functions in order to get to this speed.
Clearly this is not a (dprev)NIKON theme... just a few dogs... and not one single cat!
Indeed peculiar... a dearth of 'real' pictures from photographer-owned cameras.
The thick plottens... an NDA?... Putin strong-arm methods?... something Trumped up?
Watch this space... and all the others.
-g-
To quote Monty P....
John: Oh, I say, have you seen page eight? Nixon’s had an asshole transplant.
Terry: Ohhh, have you seen the stop press then?
John: No.
Terry: The asshole has rejected him.
Indeed peculiar... a dearth of 'real' pictures from photographer-owned cameras.
The thick plottens... an NDA?... Putin strong-arm methods?... something Trumped up?
Watch this space... and all the others.
-g-
To quote Monty P....
John: Oh, I say, have you seen page eight? Nixon’s had an asshole transplant.
Terry: Ohhh, have you seen the stop press then?
John: No.
Terry: The asshole has rejected him.
Erik Lundqvist
Member
The X1D was returned to the dealer earlier today. I took some notes for a blog post, but I shall just share the notes with you guys straight away.
To summarise I was really pleased with my time with the X1D and I am confident that for my portrait it will perform well. At the moment it does not really have the lens I need for my still life work, but hopefully that will come later this year. The X1D was a pleasure to use as well, with well thought out ergonomics for the most part. Did not have a chance to try any architecture or landscape, but since portraits are 90% of what I do I'm happy. During the two shots, which lasted for a total of 4 hours, there were no serious problems which I can remember. At the end of the second shoot I noticed the camera was warm, but in no way anywhere near what the it was during the initial demos. Although I have not delivered the final images yet I am confident my 'clients' will be more than pleased. Their Instagram feeds will never have looked so good before and
Below is a collection of observations from my time with the X1D. Some are very nitpicky, but nothing was close to making me cancel my pre-order. There are certainly a few things left for Hasselblad to iron out in the firmware, but I think we all already knew that.
AF good in ideal conditions and OK in poor, not yet analysed the result but from an inital look the keep rate seemed good
Lens changing - takes some effort and didnt immediately see the markings and the lens release button is in a dumb place which makes it very difficult to get a good grip on the camera body and the lens at the same time.
screen - poor, I wish it had a higher resolution and a tiny bit more oomph as it does not do the photos justice. Whilst looking at the photos during the shoot on the screen I was underwhelmed at first until I got home and put them on my iMac. Possibly, I am spoilt with the amazing Fuji JPGs, or I was just super hyped and expected bird song and rainbows
EVF better, but possibly a little bit choppy still
focus selection point - a let down - awkward to reach the button in the first place and instead of let me select point it just switches between af/mf even thought I pressed it for long enough and sometimes seemed to bring up the menu????
battery life - 250 photos in 2 hours resulted in 40% left then 20% after faffing around in cafe this is good enough for me
some settings seemed to reset/change after turn the camera on/off (shutter speed for instance)
turning camera on 7 seconds for display to turn and show settings screen and another 2 seconds for the camera to detect the SD card and count the number of images
worked with my Elinchrom Sky Port flash trigger
black out time after each shot is disruptive, but I have to wait for my flash to recharge anyway so no shots missed
live view seems to turn off at the most inconvenient moments
no jpg simulations, not even a black and white one
the af/mf and wb/iso buttons are quite tiny and just a tiny bit awkward to reach and use while the camera is against eye
phocus app did not let me save images to phone, but maybe that only works with JPGs
phocus app was not even keen on SHOWING me the photos on the phone, it only worked for a few photos
phocus app worked fine as a remote trigger, but I would much prefer a cabled option as it seemed to lose connection once in a while
To summarise I was really pleased with my time with the X1D and I am confident that for my portrait it will perform well. At the moment it does not really have the lens I need for my still life work, but hopefully that will come later this year. The X1D was a pleasure to use as well, with well thought out ergonomics for the most part. Did not have a chance to try any architecture or landscape, but since portraits are 90% of what I do I'm happy. During the two shots, which lasted for a total of 4 hours, there were no serious problems which I can remember. At the end of the second shoot I noticed the camera was warm, but in no way anywhere near what the it was during the initial demos. Although I have not delivered the final images yet I am confident my 'clients' will be more than pleased. Their Instagram feeds will never have looked so good before and
Below is a collection of observations from my time with the X1D. Some are very nitpicky, but nothing was close to making me cancel my pre-order. There are certainly a few things left for Hasselblad to iron out in the firmware, but I think we all already knew that.
AF good in ideal conditions and OK in poor, not yet analysed the result but from an inital look the keep rate seemed good
Lens changing - takes some effort and didnt immediately see the markings and the lens release button is in a dumb place which makes it very difficult to get a good grip on the camera body and the lens at the same time.
screen - poor, I wish it had a higher resolution and a tiny bit more oomph as it does not do the photos justice. Whilst looking at the photos during the shoot on the screen I was underwhelmed at first until I got home and put them on my iMac. Possibly, I am spoilt with the amazing Fuji JPGs, or I was just super hyped and expected bird song and rainbows
EVF better, but possibly a little bit choppy still
focus selection point - a let down - awkward to reach the button in the first place and instead of let me select point it just switches between af/mf even thought I pressed it for long enough and sometimes seemed to bring up the menu????
battery life - 250 photos in 2 hours resulted in 40% left then 20% after faffing around in cafe this is good enough for me
some settings seemed to reset/change after turn the camera on/off (shutter speed for instance)
turning camera on 7 seconds for display to turn and show settings screen and another 2 seconds for the camera to detect the SD card and count the number of images
worked with my Elinchrom Sky Port flash trigger
black out time after each shot is disruptive, but I have to wait for my flash to recharge anyway so no shots missed
live view seems to turn off at the most inconvenient moments
no jpg simulations, not even a black and white one
the af/mf and wb/iso buttons are quite tiny and just a tiny bit awkward to reach and use while the camera is against eye
phocus app did not let me save images to phone, but maybe that only works with JPGs
phocus app was not even keen on SHOWING me the photos on the phone, it only worked for a few photos
phocus app worked fine as a remote trigger, but I would much prefer a cabled option as it seemed to lose connection once in a while
Erik Lundqvist
Member
A proper macro lens would be nice, even though I do not really do anything closer than 'close-up' photography. I wish we knew more about the lens roadmap.
KeithL
Well-known member
Could it be the camera you tried didn't have the latest firmware? It should allow you to select focus points using the two wheels.
Erik Lundqvist
Member
You first have to activate that feature by pressing the af/mf button for a second
KeithL
Well-known member
I don't doubt it.You first have to activate that feature by pressing the af/mf button for a second
The point I was making is if that feature was available to you did you try it? I'm unsure of how intuitive the two wheel option will be.
Godfrey
Well-known member
I have used other cameras with the 'two wheel focus area selection' control paradigm. They work fine, just takes a few minutes to learn how to do it. At least for me, I don't move the focus point around enough to find it inconvenient: I only do that when I have the camera on a tripod and am doing table top work. Moving the focus point in that circumstance makes sense because I can target different parts of the subject without changing my camera setup; for hand-held work, I'd rather just point at what I want to focus on and then reframe. I've never seen the 'focus error' problems that I hear so much about with that methodology.
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KeithL
Well-known member
I was hoping Erik had tried it on the X1D and had an opinion. Whatever, it's something I'd have to try.
Erik Lundqvist
Member
Yes Keith I did try it and my opinion is that to start with you have to press the af/mf button BEFORE you can use the control wheels to move the focus selection point. The first step was rather awkward and there was a lot of mistakes made, and using the control wheels was not fantastic either. I'm sure it will be easier with time, but nevertheless it is a rather poor solution when working with a subject who moves and when you want to change orientation.