Oh the V folks will be in so much joy.
Photography is all about experimentation and without it you will never learn art.
Fingers crossed. No, not for the price. If high it eventually will come down. The thing is, possibly there is no provision to turn the back to switch from horizontal to vertical. I truly hope my fear is unfounded. This doubt is killing me.
But hey, you can allways shoot square in the size as before with more MP and then you have the wide angle capability for landscape orientation. I really thin its cool that hasselblad continues to support the V-System with those backs.
the prism allows you to shoot vertically at least. waist level not so much.
does anyone know if phocus lets you apply digital lens corrections manually to non-cfi lenses?
Hmmmm, not recommended for the SWC and ARC body due to lens incompatibility. ISO 800 so that must mean micro lenses? Thoughts? It is nice to have an upgrade path . . . if it weren't so painful on the wallet! I think I will hold onto my old CFV which does work well with my SWC (great walk around P&S).
I'm waiting for the 49x49 mm version.......should be about 45MP, perfect
Wow, finally! Sadly, I just bought my first back (or not so sadly, I am really enjoying it, and I cannot imagine that this back would be able to approach mine in price). This is definitely an item for my wishlist though. I would love to use this on my old 2000FC/M!
That looks like an excellent offering. I still have a nice black paint 503 and 4 lenses plus a box of accessories. I also read (for the processing wimps) that LR 2.4 can now read the hasselblad raw files.
The price needs to be below $15K to get interest otherwise why not look for the other HB deals.
Excellent news...wonder what the price is?
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Neither the sensor nor the back rotates! I'm so mad I can't write about it again. Please go to post No.10 of this thread. http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/...4&#entry294564
And here too. Please go to post No.15. http://www.hasselbladinfo.com/forum/...ead.php?t=3821
I agree that the price point needs to be below the $15K to be in the running. Currently Hasselblad USA is selling refurb CFVs for $5400 which is a great deal for a lot of people like yourself that have a closet full of Hasseys. I have been enjoying the quality of images from my 16 mpx CFV back and would have to see a full frame square to get me to change. I really enjoy the square format and in my mind's eye a rectangular format belongs on a 35.
BTW LR 2.4 and Aperture 2.1.3 both support the 3fr raw format. I feel that the Phocus software still processes the files the best though. My main gripe is the speed that Phocus processes the files.
I can understand , that for your type of work , a vertical format is important , and that you are therefore disappointed .
For my work , which is mostly square and some landscape type images , but only very very few vertical , the CFV-39 is what i am looking for , as I do believe , that there will be no bigger square sensor in the near future .
I have given up hope for a bigger square sensor .
So the CFV-39 came just in time . (for me)
I ordered one today . Delivery will be in August (hopefully)
The price here in Germany will be 10.000 € + VAT.
So this is true again : Horses of courses .
Well, Jurgen, what can I say? If it fits you, buy it. Congratulations. Wouldn't you be better set with a P45 that rotates any way you want and gives 39mp with a 1:1 crop ALWAYS?
A used mint P45 now goes for 12K usd, probably less. Wish I had that money saved.
Thanks for your reply.
As I alreday said , most of my work is not vertical images .
But most of my work is also from the tripod . I have a ROTASLIDE adapter for my ARCASWISS . A genious design and piece of art .
BTW , tomorrow starts your month , with the "stairway to heaven" image .
Best regards Jürgen
To redesign the CFV casing to then be able to work horizontal or vertical would require a complete electronics design, thus increasing the price which is part of the CFV's appeal... being sub 10,000 Euros.
I attach the spec sheet for those interested...
Even though I am really fine with my Sinar back and Hy I still find the Hasselblad V and the CFV backs the seciest system available.
Also I learned that I use manual focus much ore often anyways (with a nice big viewfinder manual focus works pretty fine)
The new CFV makes sens IMO, you can use the square and then switch to the landscape/wider angle if needed.
Now you can use a 40mm as a real wide angle if needed.
Enjoy your new back!
This is a bit off topic yet applicable.
Hasselblad does offer the CFII39 and when used with a V system i-adapter the digital magazine can be rotated from landscape to portrait.
To clarify, the digital magazine has to be removed to change the orientation and reattached to the camera body.
The P45 would behave in the same manor, the back would have to be removed to change orientation.
I have never seen this adapter , but it is nice to know .
I do not find the way of changing the backs orientation very handy .
The price for the CFV-39 in the U.S. is about the same than here in Germany .
A very good friend of mine asked me , if the CFV-39 would also be available for this camera . ? ? ?
Not in black but in yellow .
Have fun .
I am impatiently waiting for my CFV-39 to arrive .
This is very interesting!
I am just wondering how one would use it for stitching on a view camera?
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Paul said that the CFII39 could be rotated, not the CFV-39. As far as I know, the CFII39 would be a Hasselblad digital back that needs an appropriate i-adapter to attach to any camera, SLR or technical, probably needs an image-bank or something similar for power, if not shooting tethered, and probably needs a flash sync cord to fire. This is why the CFV backs are so much more convenient to use on a V-series camera.
Does anyone know what the crop factor for lenses will be with the new back?
Shooting square will be the same lens factor as CFV11 = 1.5x.
Thanks. Sorry for the elementary question, but does this mean the widest one can go with this system in square format with V lenses is effectively 45mm = roughly 30mm in 35mm format terms?
The crop factor if you use the full sensor is 1.16, i.e. a 40mm lens would be equivalent to 47mm on MF, or about a 28mm on 35mm-FF.
For the square size , which is 36,7 x 36,7 mm it is the same as for the CFV/CFVII , 1.5
The 202FA , 203FE , 205TCC/FCC need a minor modification , if you want to use F/FE lenses .
Without that modification all 2000/200 series cameras can only be used with C/CF/CFE/CFi lenses in C-mode and require the use of the flash sync input cable .
Can you use FE lenses with the CF backs (not the CFV)? I like the idea of this CFV back a lot, and I might even consider selling my Hy6 system for it, but I agree that the non-rotating aspect is a bit of a downer. I mostly shoot in landscape, but not always...portraiture or even certain landscapes benefit from a vertical composition. What is the screen like on this new CFV? Is it equivalent to the latest Hasselblad backs, or is it older technology?
What is the screen like on this new CFV?
From the spec. sheet the LCD is the same 2.5" as the CFVII. I think that as much of the CFVII as possible was used for the 39 in order to keep the cost down. One of the advantages of the CFV system is that it is mechanically connected to the "V" series body so no external cable is needed. The mechanical connection would make a rotating back very difficult to make, IMO.
As far as I can tell this is also the latest back technology from Hasselblad ... I assume it employs the same sensor filter as on the CF-II and H3D-II/31&39 backs which improved reflection resistance. It is also an improvement over the top ISO 400 of the CFV-II in terms of providing ISO 800 and twice the shooting time (from 32 to 64 seconds).
Most importantly to me, the CFV is the ONLY digital back in the entire world that is fully functional at all shutter speeds on the wonderful Hasselblad focal plane cameras.
Not any Phase One, Not any Sinar, Not any Leaf ... not even Hasselblad CF/CF-II backs work.
ONLY the CFV/16 and CFV-II/16 ... and now the CFV-II/39 ... are fully functional on the wonderful 200 series cameras. And does it without the need for a sync cord. The 203FE is my favorite camera of all time ... on which I can use all the 200 Zeiss series lenses ... AND all of the 500 series Zeiss lenses in either focal plane or leaf shutter modes!
V stuff is without a doubt the best freaking photo investment I have ever made. I can use all the V lenses on just about every camera I own, as well as use all the 500 series lenses fully functional on the H cameras with focus confirmation.
Victor Hasselblad was a genius ... the immortal V lives on ... and on ... and on ... WAHOOOOOO !
i'm curious how a rectangular format would feel in a camera whose ergonomics are based on square...i'll have to play around with that, flipping my blad on it's side...grrr!
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