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D700 + ?

rayyan

Well-known member
Interesting dilemma, Rayyan.
One i'd never have. :rolleyes:








I'll pick the black one. :p


Seriously, though i concur with many things said above, here's a couple of personal thoughts on the matter:

- focal length: it really depends on what you're shooting. For most people i'd naturally say "take the 35 or 28 if you'll be mostly shooting landscapes, 50 for portraits". A portrait with the 50:


But we're all well aware that you're a master of the ZF 35 for portraits (including sweet talking your way up close), so... the focal length wouldn't matter much here, for you.

While the 35mm will prove a more flexible FL, 2/50 is still an option for monuments when the extra elbowroom in composition is not needed. Couple examples:

- rendition: IMHO the two lens render somehow differently on the D700. I'd definitely take the 2/50 for a late summer/early fall trip in Alsace and/or Slovenia, for the subtle contrast and richer hues.

- i disagree with Don on the topic of ZF (sorry Don, just MHO) 1.4/50 vs. 2/50. A recurrent discussion on the board, but i'll stand my ground on this one: apart from the extra stop and maybe a tad faster focusing ring in favor of the 1.4, the 2/50 is superior in all ways. Geometry, CA, local contrast, color rendition... and in particular, bokeh.


Plus, bokeh is not only about rear OOF, and very few lenses have a nice "front bokeh". Here's an example:

Discussion on bokeh can be found here, with more examples:

Roger ("glenerrolrd") made a note saying that the transition from in focus to OOF zones were "quick". I guess it's a matter of personal taste, though after the discussion i kinda agree with him (not in a negative way). Bokeh is nice on all the ZF glasses, but the smoothness of the 2/50 is pretty much unmatched by anything out there in the 24-to-70mm range -except for some Middle Format, and maybe a couple of primes from Leica and one Canon, and then it's more a matter of taste.


As a conclusion, both ZF 2/35 and 2/50 are stellar.
In the end, if both are available, it's more of a choice between the obvious wider view of the former, and the slightly more puchy look and better geometry of the latter.
I'm personally used to carrying only the 2/50 as a one lens kit on the Nikon FF, but i know you do that a lot with the 35 with great results.
In the end, the "trip with one lens" exercise will be lotsa fun with either one of these. (insert smile)



P.S. i only posted D700+ZF 2/50 photos here (quickly picked from the existing board gallery for availability reasons), since they're more on point here. As said earlier, you're such a specialist of the 2/35 that you'll find every reference needed in your own stack! (insert another smile)


Oh by the way, depending on when you're travelling, at some point we might not be too far away from each other... maybe our paths will cross, who knows? (insert another smile) (limited to 10 images per post)



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Corlan, missed you mon ami.

The images are magnifique! The presentation super.:bugeyes:

I need time to let it all sink in. Shall comment later.

merci.:salute:
 

Corlan F.

Subscriber Member
Thanks Osman, and Rayyan, for your kind comments.
Hope this helps.

(just noticed a huge mistake in my reply which would have me banned from GetDPI for sure... "middle format"? :eek::wtf: ) :eek: :deadhorse:

There's a couple of interior low light shots that i would have added to be more comprehensive, but there are some on the first page of my gallery.

Tough choice you got here Rayyan... but a good one to have. :toocool:


(forgot to mention, the first photo above ("Zeiss Lust") was taken couple of minutes prior to answering this thread -the two lenses were actually sitting on my side desk... fun coincidence)
 
Hmph. So do you have the 28 as well, Corlan? :D

I would love a "Zeiss Kit" for when I have the time to focus and the like. Beautiful!!
 

Corlan F.

Subscriber Member
Hmph. So do you have the 28 as well, Corlan? :D

I would love a "Zeiss Kit" for when I have the time to focus and the like. Beautiful!!
Zeiss don't make no 28mm ZF.

Well, at least that's what i keep saying to myself to avoid the urge :D

From what i surmise, this 28 draws more like the 2/50 than the 35... so i keep lurking (or is it lusting)?
 

Jorgen Udvang

Subscriber Member
Rayyan,
If weight is a problem, you might want to consider the D90 replacement. It's (probably) not full frame, which means the widest Zeiss lenses won't be that wide anymore, but judging from the rumoured specs, it will a sensationally good camera. My guess is that it's only a question of a year or two before we see an FX sensor in the smaller body as well.
 

rayyan

Well-known member
Corlan, missed you mon ami.

The images are magnifique! The presentation super.:bugeyes:

I need time to let it all sink in. Shall comment later.

merci.:salute:
Corlan, Again the images you posted are awesome. beautiful front and back oof.

Excellent colors and rendition.

But..you have confused me more.:eek:

Best.
 

jlancasterd

Active member
When I can get one, I suspect that the ‘one lens kit’ I use with my D700 will be the new 24-120 f4.0 zoom (I currently use the 24-70 f2.8 in this role).

Depending on my destination, I might also take the 16-35 f4.0 zoom - In tight situations I find myself using the 16mm end of this lens much more often than I expected now that it’s so easy to correct converging verticals in Photoshop.

If I want to be unobtrusive and can restrict myself to a fixed focal length I take my M9 with either a 35mm Summarit or a 50mm Nokton.
 

tjv

Active member
The 24-70 is a great lens but it's way too big to be an all the time, carry around lens when travelling. The new 24-120 sounds great in this regard.

As for 35 or 50mm, I'd go the 35mm Zeiss. It's a great lens and when travelling I usually want to photograph wider street scenes, architecture and portraits. It's the best compromise all around, although I prefer shooting mainly with a 50mm day to day when home. Go figure...
 

rayyan

Well-known member
When I can get one, I suspect that the ‘one lens kit’ I use with my D700 will be the new 24-120 f4.0 zoom (I currently use the 24-70 f2.8 in this role).

Depending on my destination, I might also take the 16-35 f4.0 zoom - In tight situations I find myself using the 16mm end of this lens much more often than I expected now that it’s so easy to correct converging verticals in Photoshop.

If I want to be unobtrusive and can restrict myself to a fixed focal length I take my M9 with either a 35mm Summarit or a 50mm Nokton.
John, thanks for your input. Yes, I too am waiting for the new 24-120mm f/4.

The 24-70 is a great lens but it's way too big to be an all the time, carry around lens when travelling. The new 24-120 sounds great in this regard.

As for 35 or 50mm, I'd go the 35mm Zeiss. It's a great lens and when travelling I usually want to photograph wider street scenes, architecture and portraits. It's the best compromise all around, although I prefer shooting mainly with a 50mm day to day when home. Go figure...
tjv, appreciate your suggestion/s. Difficult choice..no?

Regards all.
 

rayyan

Well-known member
hi people..again

I have been doing nothing but packing unpacking and shooting with the zf 35/50 makro.

what say you sages to a zf 35/2 plus a zf 50/1.4 combo. i love the zf 35 too!

I love the zf 50/2 also...

regards.
 

Jorgen Udvang

Subscriber Member
Then there's this one:



The brand new 35mm f/1.4, ZF.2 as well as ZE. Don't know when it will be available though. Price around $2,000.
 

rayyan

Well-known member
Then there's this one:



The brand new 35mm f/1.4, ZF.2 as well as ZE. Don't know when it will be available though. Price around $2,000.
Jorgen, Hi. No pal not this one!!

Anyone had a taste yet?

Michael, I have been phoning States, London to see if they had this.
Would be ideal for me for the current trip.

There is a listing of this one on the Graysof westminster site in London, but not in stock currently.

Regards.
 
D

d2mini

Guest
On my D700 I would take the 24-70 f/2.8.
On my M9 I would take the 35 f/2 Summicron.
 

rayyan

Well-known member
Thanks to all the folks that resdponded to my request.

I have been with my d700 and zf 50mm planar for the past 2.5 weeks on the road.

it has taken a fall in the mountains, but seems to be holding fine. Ayesha has starined her ligaments over the Eiger and I have shot my kneee and elbow having lost my way in bernese Oberland somewhere trekking a steep downhill in rain, fog and granite!

I had to leave the M8 in Zurich due to weight constraints.

My netbook packed up the first day. Having to do with cf cards.

Regards.
 

m_driscoll

New member
Thanks to all the folks that resdponded to my request.

I have been with my d700 and zf 50mm planar for the past 2.5 weeks on the road.

it has taken a fall in the mountains, but seems to be holding fine. Ayesha has starined her ligaments over the Eiger and I have shot my kneee and elbow having lost my way in bernese Oberland somewhere trekking a steep downhill in rain, fog and granite!

I had to leave the M8 in Zurich due to weight constraints.

My netbook packed up the first day. Having to do with cf cards.

Regards.
Rayyan: Take care of yourselves!!!!!! If it doesn't kill you, it just makes you stronger. Somebody used to yell that at me when i was 18. I thought it was a little over the top, so, take care.

Cheers, Matt

http://mdriscoll.zenfolio.com
 

Corlan F.

Subscriber Member
Good to hear from you Rayyan!
Feared you were stuck in some cosy chalet in the Alps!
(or alternatively in some dark alsacian cellar with no soft drinks around) :deadhorse: :D

Too bad for the incidents, hope you'll get well asap.
Take care, both of you :)
 
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