The wireless capabilities look great. Fully built in. See top video
D3s was 5200 USD at its introduction two years ago
and prices for electronics are supposed to fall, aren't they
like with computers and laser printers etc. ...
oh well, I guess this extreme machine is specifically aimed at professionals who need the speed at any price
it will be interesting to see the price of the D800
I guess that price will reveal whether the D800 is actually meant to be the D700 successor or if it is a totally new high-end landscape and studio lighting product segment
and in that case what will be the next entrance ticket to 'full frame' for Nikon enthusiasts, a "D700s" - or a Canon - or a Sony ...
watch your back, Nikon, stay competitive
Carlos and Steen: You guys are no fun.
A nikonite site says:
JOIN IN THE EXCITEMENT OF THE NEW NIKON D4!
Steen, Nikon are taking luddite technology to new heights. The D4 is not an electronic camera. It still is a hybrid and sports an old pentaprism optical finder.
The price is comparable to a Leica M9. Their fast primes are a real bargain compared to the Leica primes as well.
I have mixed feelings and am a bit underwhelmed about this one, but that may be partially due to my own personal needs, not the actual capability nor features of the D4 in particular. I've always been enthusiastic (and used) all the Pro D series from the original D1 onward (some had their issues) but each full new model made substantial jumps in both still image capabilities and image quality. Without of course having yet used the D4, my initial reaction is that it's a ultimate pro sports and PJ camera (partly due to the demands of both wireless capability and/or advanced video)....but for those who use this series of cameras strictly for "stills" yet need the capabilities of a pro oriented body, I'm not sure at it's price point it would be much favored over a D3 or D700 or even a well priced D3s.
Something tells me if the D800 is a high MP landscape type camera, especially at a possible price point of $4000, they will need as Steen and others have suggested, a full frame D700s type camera (when the D700 is officially discontinued) that is a successor/upgrade path to the current D700...and price this competitively. It may take a year or more to release all their new bodies already somewhat near production, but something tells me Nikon has already thought very carefully about their strategy regarding price points, features and capabilities of their future "full frame" line of cameras. At least I hope so!
While the specs look impressive and those who have gotten their mitts on one are raving about it, the $6K price is off-putting for me and I could really benefit from this camera shooting ballet. The D800's rumored specs make it a no-go for me as well. Depending on what Sony does with the A99, I may jump ship with the A77 if the G glass is up to snuff.
Here come all the used D3 cameras.
Yes, Vivek, and I do believe you are right that pentaprism optical finders may very well disappear even from new full frame 35mm camera generations within few years.
I just personally happen to like big and bright optical viewfinders and this new 2012 generation of DSLRs may be my last chance to buy a new real 35mm full frame DSLR.
It's a free world and you need not to share my fascination with old-fashioned optical viewfinders, but here's at least an attempt to illustrate my fascination
Very nice, Steen.
I still have a DW-2 boxed up along with a nice F2. Totally different era.
BTW, FWIW, here is how Nikon's announcement starts:
The new Nikon D4 digital SLR builds upon the legacy of the proven Nikon flagship D-SLRs before it, engineered to give today’s professional multimedia photographers a new apex of speed and accuracy with unparalleled image quality, low-light capability and Full HD video.
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It's a DSLR survival kit, Nikon style. Big, heavy and with the kitchen sink built in. If I could afford it, I would buy it, but I can't. Very far from it. I picked up my D2Xs today. I'm surprised how superior it is to my D300 when it comes to ergonomics and functionality. There are many photographers who will demand this kind of combination of imaging device and sledgehammer for years still, just like there are photographers buying Leicas. And if it costs 5 or 6,000 dollars, who cares really? If one doesn't make serious money from photography (or is loaded with dollars), this isn't the right camera anyway.
My D2Xs was more expensive when new btw. The price tag was still on the box, 5.5 times the price I paid in mint condition. Maybe I'll be able to buy a D4 in 5-6 years
Impressive camera, but actually I am looking for the D700 replacement (D800 ????) and more MP. I definitely do not need more than ISO 50000 or something around but rather a smaller form factor!
Disclaimer: I don't know if these are genuine or not!
D4 and 85/1.8 combo shots:
Also worth noting is that Nikon now finally has an affordable 85 with a bokeh that doesnt look like a horse's ***. The 85/1.8D was so bad it still gives me the creeps.
Only two things would be enough to buy this camera when you need it:
Fast Ethernet and Full HDMI direct uncompressed 24 Mbps output.
Additionally for industry customers: 400 000 shutter cycles
For Nikon people who do a lot of shooting, fashion, sports, technical usage this will be _the_ machine.
Greetings from Munich
ordered it with NPS early pro. will see....
The video from this camera maybe very impressive.
yeah, take a look at this, Uwe
If I were buying back in to Nikon right now it would be a tough call between the D3s and the D4. I really think that Nikon have got a lot right with this camera and I'm happy that they haven't gone megapixel mad. The workflow improvements across the board with this thing are very impressive. As a go anywhere, shoot in any condition, under any light, super flexible platform it seems like a winner to me. (I readily confess to being a Nikonian / FanBoy).
However, if D3s's start hitting the boards at realistic $4k prices I'd be hard pushed to go the extra to the D4 because the D3s is still an amazing camera, as are it's D3 and D700 peers. Yet again it's another great time to be shooting Nikon.
D4, first impressions and thoughts, by John Caz on Nikon Glass
if I was still shooting sports, i.e skiing and bobsled at night under artificial light I would for sure go for the new D4 in a second for the better AF performance, even if its just a little better then the D3s I use to own and shot with last year.
Though if I was a mostly daylight sport shooter, then I may stick with the D3s, only of course if I needed video then again the D4 would be for me
Tried the preproduction version D4 - very impressed with this beast.
been there and done that. waiting for finalized version this month.
on the D3s, i never got going with it. for the times i used one i felt my D3 would have done the job as well. it always felt like an interim build product or beta build. the D4 is the finalized version. the only thing that sorta bothers me is the dual different slots. but it is a forward step rather then canons previous approach sideways of CF/SD. now that was not a good option in my opinion and i had one of those.
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In working with the D3 and D3s side by side for demanding low light work, the D3s was a exactly what a "s" version of a Nikon body was supposed to be...a refinement of it's predecessor, not a major revamp of the body and it's performance. The higher ISO performance for specific applications was clearly evident and often an advantage, as was the tonality of the file for studio work. For general use, both cameras were close in many respects. The D3 & D3s are superb cameras but like all things, a complete model revamp was eventually due. I too am not 100% thrilled with the choice of dual card slots on the D4 but guess time will tell if it was the right decision.
Can anyone figure out why the manufacturers implement two different card formats at all in the same camera
CF + XQD makes sense simply because many photographers have piles of CF cards that they want to use, while long term, they will change to XQD. Many will probably use the D4 together with another, older camera, and having the possibility of using cards across cameras... see above.
On the other hand, should I want to buy a D4, I would probably have to sell all my other cameras and all the old cards, so no, it wouldn't make sense for me anyway (yes, I have considered the option ).
I find it interesting that people trash any camera just because its not a fit for the style of shooting they need. This is why companies make multiple models with different features.
The D4 is a home run for Nikon and they will sell everyone they can build. It doesn't take but a few brain cells to see the target market for this camera. That doesn't mean it won't be purchased by wedding photographers or used for other applications but that is not its intended audience.
As far as $5999, that's cheap depending on the comparison. A D3s is $5200, a Leica M9-P is $8000 and a Canon 1Ds III is $7000. Now if you take into account the D4 as a product that will be purchased by the video market it gets even more interesting.
A Panasonic AF-100 is $5000, the Sony FS-100 is $5700, etc. etc.
The point of course is price all depends on what you are comparing it too and as a professional how it will impact your business.
Just a piece of anecdotal information, orders for the D4 have already exceeded those of the D3 when it announced.
Yeah, I guess that may be the reason, though in my opinion it seems a bit silly to incorporate an old format card slot just because a lot of us have a number of old format cards.
I mean if a card format is old and replaced by a new one, it is old and replaced.
Just my 0.02
ordered 2 now, hope they show up soon. gotta dump my well used D3 bodies soon--they sure earned their keep.