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    Re: Sigma DP2 Merrill shots

    A week ago I was in Cannes on a business trip. While there I took a few shots and this panorama. The original is 30,000 pixels wide (after resizing for print at 24 x 100 inches) and made up of 9 DP2M images.

    https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9806585/Can...Printready.jpg

    The linked image is therefore 10% of the actual image size.

    The original shots were all handheld, manual settings, and stitched in PTGui
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    Q, EXCELLENT shot! (I'm hoping to get my cam this week!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by peterb View Post
    Q, EXCELLENT shot! (I'm hoping to get my cam this week!)

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    A few more DP2M shots, local and arboretum..


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    Thanks Carl. I am still looking ...

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    Re: Sigma DP2 Merrill shots

    wonderful shot(/s) Quentin
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    Re: Sigma DP2 Merrill shots

    Carl, thanks for pictures. It seems that the DP2M still has a little edge towards the DP1M, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorkil View Post
    Carl, thanks for pictures. It seems that the DP2M still has a little edge towards the DP1M, right?
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    Yes, I think so.
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    Thanks Carl. I am still looking ...

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    You are welcome Lee. Hope to see some of your landscapes here soon.

    PS just in case you need a little reinforcement:
    YES!!
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    You are welcome Lee. Hope to see some of your landscapes here soon.
    Naughty Carl ... I am part way there having sold a m4/3 lens I hardly use which gives me 30% of the cost! If I can sell my Pentax 43mm ltd I may well join you but am still trying to resist and don't want to be unfaithful to my X-Pro 1.

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    Hi
    I'm very excited about the Sigma Dp2M. What i miss to see are good people pictures. Nobody want to show them? How about colors for skin? I like to picture humans and good transitions of skin and colour is important. Is the contrast of this combo to much for smooth rendering?
    Good examples to be posted I estimate a lot. Thank you in advance. This cam thrilles me.
    I'm a passionated photographer with a lot of experience and such a bargain of cam would make life very interesting.

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    As Carl knows.....I sat on the fence for an entire week trying to decide if I should open the box and shoot the DP1M.

    When the Merrill's were first announced, I always thought that the DP1M would be my logical choice. I wait listed on B&H and received one of their first shipments. In the meantime, I got cold feet.....I read the first few reviews and was concerned about the apparent lack of sharpness with the 19mm lens (in comparison to the DP2M). At that moment, I thought it extravagant to have both.

    I knew from the forum that Carl had gotten both and pestered him a bit about his thoughts (okay....maybe more than a bit ).
    Anyways....yesterday I said "" and took it out for a spin.

    Some farm shots....


    The detail in the picture is astounding and the 19mm lens does not disappoint.








    I didn't do much to these in SPP......just basically converted them to TIFF and imported them in LR. Colors are pretty true.

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    Two more.....again, the 19mm does not disappoint.






    Lots of detail....




    No sharpening.....

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    Thank you for the stunning pictures Rich!
    Although it doesn't help one getting les confused in choosing I guess.
    Yes, one might have to have both!
    Did you shoot a WhiBal-card or something, or just straight away? AWB or sunshine-setting?
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    ..and while writing the last ones came in...very impressive too!! Do you opload full-size?

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    ps. perhaps a little soft in the corners? But that could be, being close to the subject, that the DOF isn't sufficient enough, to get the edges secure "inside" the DOF.
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    Great shots Rich. Looks like that DP1M is doing just fine in your hands.
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    Thanks Thorkil and Carl......I have to say it is a challenging capture device.

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    Re: Sigma DP2 Merrill shots

    how are you composing and focusing?

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    Just got mine today. Should have done some work but instead wandered around snapping aimlessly.

    First thoughts:

    1. Build quality excellent.
    2. Very clear and intuitive menu and control system. I didn't even have to open the manual.
    3. Like everyone else I am astonished at the detail. It may even out do my H3D 39 in certain respects.
    4. SPP not quite as terrible as I had feared. Perfectly useable but still a pain to do anything with. But ... Oh for Adobe support.

    Some snaps exported without any adjustment first as 16 bit tiffs to Lightroom and then re-exported from LR with minimal adjustments to jpegs. Nothing to get excited about.









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    Quote Originally Posted by jlm View Post
    how are you composing and focusing?
    Hi John,
    When I'm shooting landscapes (most of the time) I use the LCD for composing and autofocus. The focus point can be easily re-sized and shifted around as needed. The 2 sec timer is a convenient for shutter release at slow shutter speeds. I have no complaints about autofocus, it seems to be very accurate and quick enough for my needs. I also use the LCD and AF for handheld casual shooting most of the time. I have optical finders mounted on both the DP1M and DP2M, but only use them if it is too bright to see the LCD clearly. So far I haven't done any serious macro work, but that might be the time when I would use manual focus (which seems to work OK).
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    Re: Sigma DP2 Merrill shots

    I certainly don't need (or even want) another camera but I keep seeing great shots from people who I clearly remember from other forums. Perhaps we all change cameras too frequently.

    Right now I am still shooting Canon when I need off camera ETTL or want full frame for portraits. Very happily shooting an OM-D for just about anything else.

    What's the draw here? Why this one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMaher View Post

    What's the draw here? Why this one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorkil View Post
    A Hasselblad in your pocket
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    Re: Sigma DP2 Merrill shots

    just picked up the DP1-M

    will be making a grip for it, similar to my OMD grip, it will allow battery and card access

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    Just got this one today.

    Initial thoughts (coming from D800, M9, M8 OM-D, X=Pro 1):

    At or below 400 asa possibly the sharpest / most detailed camera I've ever owned. 3D everywhere you look.

    Converts wonderfully to B&W... reminiscent of the M8

    1,600 and above utterly hopeless.

    Passable AF. Good UI. Horrid battery life

    Full sized version of picture below is at Sigma DP2 Merrill



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    Quote Originally Posted by Farnesworth View Post
    Just got this one today.

    Initial thoughts (coming from D800, M9, M8 OM-D, X=Pro 1):

    At or below 400 asa possibly the sharpest / most detailed camera I've ever owned. 3D everywhere you look.

    Converts wonderfully to B&W... reminiscent of the M8

    1,600 and above utterly hopeless.

    Passable AF. Good UI. Horrid battery life

    Full sized version of picture below is at Sigma DP2 Merrill



    Stunning. Just got mine today, too!
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    just picked up the DP1-M

    will be making a grip for it, similar to my OMD grip, it will allow battery and card access
    Sounds good John. A grip with some extra battery power would be even better.
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    Wow!

    (My DP2M came today and I'm totally psyched about this weekend putting it through its paces.)
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    Very nice shot Uwe......
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    Around the boatyard


    Different shot....not a crop.





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    Nice work Uwe and Rich. Subtle textures and colours work well with the DP's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorkil View Post
    A Hasselblad in your pocket
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    Speaking as a Hassy H4D 50 owner, almost an understatement there, Thorkil.
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    Hi John,
    When I'm shooting landscapes (most of the time) I use the LCD for composing and autofocus. The focus point can be easily re-sized and shifted around as needed. The 2 sec timer is a convenient for shutter release at slow shutter speeds. I have no complaints about autofocus, it seems to be very accurate and quick enough for my needs. I also use the LCD and AF for handheld casual shooting most of the time. I have optical finders mounted on both the DP1M and DP2M, but only use them if it is too bright to see the LCD clearly. So far I haven't done any serious macro work, but that might be the time when I would use manual focus (which seems to work OK).
    I guess what I am having trouble getting my head round is how to rely on just using the LCD, rarely having shot via one before. Is it better to choose the AF point rather than focus and recompose?

    Also, how is the auto matrix metering? Can I rely on it? If not, how do you compensate - is there an on-screen histogram and, if so, can it actually be seen on the LCD?

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    Lovely shots, beautiful colours. Did you do much PP for these?

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    Wonderfull shots Uwe and Rich.
    It might sound irritating, but I just have a humble wish to all here: Would I be able to persuade you all to state:
    handheld/tripod
    shutterspeed
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    (perhaps Iso too)
    ...and perhaps a few remarks on pp
    ??
    (no, no..its not novel-writing I'm thinking of)
    Well, I know it might be annoying, but it would certainly help to gather experience from you all (apart from the splendid pictures!).
    From looking at the review at Photography Blog it seems that handheld should be at least 1/160, and it seems sort of obvious that the foveon sensor doesn't cope in the same nice way with small mikro-shakes like perhaps a M9 will do.
    Best Thorkil
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    Just acquired a pano head ( a Nodal Ninja MKII) specifically for use with the DP2M
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    Well for what it is worth...
    My DP2M only arrived yesterday and so far I have only made about 75 exposures. I also have a Nex7 which I find very difficult to handhold below about 1/160th. The DP2 is a different beast, different technique. For some reason I find it easier to keep steady than the Nex. I have shots that are pin sharp handheld, wide open at 1/80th. Mind you I have also some camera shake at much higher speeds. It is a question of concentration and how stable your hands are.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorkil View Post
    Wonderfull shots Uwe and Rich.
    It might sound irritating, but I just have a humble wish to all here: Would I be able to persuade you all to state:
    handheld/tripod
    shutterspeed
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    (perhaps Iso too)
    ?
    Well, I know it might be annoying, but it would certainly help to gather experience from you all (apart from the splendid pictures!).
    From looking at the review at Photography Blog it seems that handheld should be at least 1/160, and it seems sort of obvious that the foveon sensor doesn't cope in the same nice way with small mikro-shakes like perhaps a M9 will do.
    Best Thorkil
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    Plfower just got mine yesterday, too.

    What I noticed IMMEDIATELY (aside from the absolutely solid feel of the body and metal clad lens-wow!) was...due to the camera's unique acentric lens/body configuration (I can't recall any other camera recently with a lens off to the side like this), holding it naturally after picking it up I noticed that my left index finger acts as support under the lens barrel whilst my middle left finger supported the rest of the camera body from the bottom which, with the right hand grabbing the right via the bumps in the front and the sublte-yet-convenient thumb indent in the back made for a surprisingly steadier hold than any other camera I've ever held before.

    In physics terms the strikingly different position of the camera's center of mass compared with other cameras as utilized by the geometry and structural bone configuration of our hands is definitely an advantage here for hand-held work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphie View Post
    I guess what I am having trouble getting my head round is how to rely on just using the LCD, rarely having shot via one before. Is it better to choose the AF point rather than focus and recompose?

    Also, how is the auto matrix metering? Can I rely on it? If not, how do you compensate - is there an on-screen histogram and, if so, can it actually be seen on the LCD?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphie View Post
    Rich

    Lovely shots, beautiful colours. Did you do much PP for these?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorkil View Post
    Wonderfull shots Uwe and Rich.
    It might sound irritating, but I just have a humble wish to all here: Would I be able to persuade you all to state:
    handheld/tripod
    shutterspeed
    aperture
    (perhaps Iso too)
    ...and perhaps a few remarks on pp
    ??
    (no, no..its not novel-writing I'm thinking of)
    Well, I know it might be annoying, but it would certainly help to gather experience from you all (apart from the splendid pictures!).
    From looking at the review at Photography Blog it seems that handheld should be at least 1/160, and it seems sort of obvious that the foveon sensor doesn't cope in the same nice way with small mikro-shakes like perhaps a M9 will do.
    Best Thorkil
    Lee & Thorkill......good questions all. It's only my third day out with the DP1M. So far all my shots have been purposely taken in bright daylight, but trying to avoid situations where there is a wide DR. I have shot all the pics so far at ISO100, handheld, f/5.6-6.3 with shutter speeds greater than 1/160. 90% of my shots had +0.7 EC dialed in to lift the shadows. (I have to be careful on this one....whites completely blow out). Matrix metering.
    At the distance between subject and camera with the aperture that I have shooting at, I feel comfortable with focus/recompose. The camera does have a very small MFD (maybe 7"??).....so when I am that close, I will choose another focusing point (which is very simple to do.)
    There is a dedicated button for histogram, but I have not used it yet. Even in bright sunlight, the LCD is usable.
    I have not tried a tripod yet.

    The reason for the above is that I wanted to see first the BEST the camera could do under optimal conditions. Thank god the sun has been out
    I did not want my initial tries to be confounded by conditions that would color my evaluation of the camera.

    I have gotten used to SPP (ver 5.3.2 OSX). Calibrated monitors really pay off. Subtle tweaks in SPP can have a larger effect. I really do not do a lot of PP here (similar to the Fuji with RPP)......I just get use it to convert to TIFF. I do dial down the sharpening.
    Import into LR and do the usual.....again not a lot of PP.

    Thanks for the questions.....gotta go make coffee.

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    Funny that Merrill owners have to *reduce* sharpening!

    Thanks for the info, Rich. UK is about to descend into winter so maybe I will wait till the spring, although there is the possibility of an autumn first ...

    Keep them coming folks!

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    >Funny that Merrill owners have to *reduce* sharpening!

    THe fact that you may use negative sharpening does not mean there is no sharpening. We just don't know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphie View Post

    Thanks for the info, Rich. UK is about to descend into winter so maybe I will wait till the spring, ...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich M View Post
    Around the boatyard
    IMG]http://lanaihale.zenfolio.com/img/s4/v64/p1154814982-5.jpg[/IMG]

    Different shot....not a crop.





    Getting used to SPP.

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    will soon start a vendor thread for this item, but i have the prototype grip done for the Sigma DP Merril's and will post pics tomorrow:

    features (similar to my OMD grip):
    -grip has a rough textured surface
    -baseplate is full length
    -finish is black anodized aluminum
    -fits using tripod mount, provides a second tripod mount when fitted
    -has arca style grooves along base for fitting to a tripod clamp
    -has a (removable) pin and slot for a wrist strap
    -has an index mark for the lens centerline
    -does not block access to the battery door
    -weight is about 80 grams

    optionally available as part of above:
    -L-plate end for Portrait orientation, with arca grooves, tripod socket and index lines

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    Re: Sigma DP2 Merrill shots

    Hi

    thanks to all the great photos made with the DP2M in this thread, I ordered also one for me. Could not resist anymore.

    Since it has no viewfinder, I need to take care of the LCD screen more than in the past. Can anybody recommend screenprotectors, which do not reflect, have great clarity and colours and with which I can still focus easily in the sun?

    I heard names like Giottos Aegis, GGS and ACMAXX. Which are the best for the DP2M?

    Which lensshade are you using, which extra battery, which UV filter for protecting the lens?

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    Re: Sigma DP2 Merrill shots

    Quote Originally Posted by peterb View Post
    Plfower just got mine yesterday, too.

    What I noticed IMMEDIATELY (aside from the absolutely solid feel of the body and metal clad lens-wow!) was...due to the camera's unique acentric lens/body configuration (I can't recall any other camera recently with a lens off to the side like this), holding it naturally after picking it up I noticed that my left index finger acts as support under the lens barrel whilst my middle left finger supported the rest of the camera body from the bottom which, with the right hand grabbing the right via the bumps in the front and the sublte-yet-convenient thumb indent in the back made for a surprisingly steadier hold than any other camera I've ever held before.

    In physics terms the strikingly different position of the camera's center of mass compared with other cameras as utilized by the geometry and structural bone configuration of our hands is definitely an advantage here for hand-held work.

    Just my thoughts.
    Peter.......I hold it the same way. I really think it could benefit with a well-designed Thumbs-Up.

    I tried the one from my XP-1, but it does not fit into the lower profile shoe.

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    Mine arrived today. Bad weather most of the afternoon and I thought I wouldn't get a chance to test it until today. However, when I got back to my home area the sun peeped through the clouds.

    I could wax lyrical about the beauty, sharpness and colouration of the captures out of this camera but the pictures speak for themselves. I will say that my best camera is my Fuji GSW690III ('Texas Leica') and these shots easily rival scans from 6x9 negs for detail.







    PP: all hand held, process in SP5 with tweaks to exposure to recover highlights, export as 16-bit TIFF to LR so I can catalogue them, some cropping in LR, export to CS3 for curves adjustment and highlight/shadow recovery, resize for web, convert to sRGB, save-as jpg, slight reduction in saturation(!) in Microsoft picture viewer. No sharpening!
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    Accessories for DP2

    Can anyone share advice on:

    1. Screen protector
    2. Whether a protection filter can be added. Searching the web seems to suggest the thread on the lens is 49mm???
    3. Is the lens hood really necessary?

    LouisB

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    Re: Accessories for DP2

    Quote Originally Posted by biglouis View Post
    Can anyone share advice on:

    1. Screen protector
    2. Whether a protection filter can be added. Searching the web seems to suggest the thread on the lens is 49mm???
    3. Is the lens hood really necessary?

    LouisB
    I just tried an accmaxx for the LCD screen, which I still had for my Sony a900. Size fits almost perfect, but I find it too thick. Would like to try another, but no store has others in stock in my town.

    Thread is 49mm. Infos only available on the Us site of sigma. It seems that you can use filter plus lens shade. I do not know whether the original filter and lens shade of Sigma is worth it. Would love to hear about other options.

    I would always use a lens shade, no matter on which lens. Not only on sunny days.
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