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    Re: Sigma DP2 Merrill shots

    Have any of the Mac users here tried processing RAW files in Iridient's Raw Developer? I thought it was great with the non-Merrill DP cameras, and I noticed it now supports the SD1, which has the same sensor as the DP Merrill cameras, right? I'm wondering if they would be supported or maybe after changing the camera model to SD1 in EXIF.

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    Have any of the Mac users here tried processing RAW files in Iridient's Raw Developer? I thought it was great with the non-Merrill DP cameras, and I noticed it now supports the SD1, which has the same sensor as the DP Merrill cameras, right? I'm wondering if they would be supported or maybe after changing the camera model to SD1 in EXIF.
    Brian expects to release 2.0 soon (this month) which will have support for both the DP1M and DP2M. The current version (1.95) does not support these cameras.
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    I wait for it too.
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    Re: Sigma DP2 Merrill shots

    Only for Mac's?

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    Raw Developer is only for Macs.
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    Re: Sigma DP2 Merrill shots

    From a rather "minor" autumn day, overcast and dull, with custom WB:


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    Re: Sigma DP2 Merrill shots

    Autumn:

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    Re: Sigma DP2 Merrill shots

    A couple of shots I have tried with various cameras over the years.

    Burnt doors


    Bethnal Green Tube Clock (nice example of LUL Art Deco)


    You might want to try comparing it to this version (Leica M7, Summilux 35/1.4 ASPH, Kodak Portra 160) - I'm going to have to go back to double check which is the correct colour for the thin coloured tile.

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    Re: Sigma DP2 Merrill shots

    Louis, the DPM definitely has a slower lens. By an hour and 39 minutes.

    Also prefer the color of the DPM

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    Quote Originally Posted by biglouis View Post
    A couple of shots I have tried with various cameras over the years.
    You might want to try comparing it to this version (Leica M7, Summilux 35/1.4 ASPH, Kodak Portra 160) - I'm going to have to go back to double check which is the correct colour for the thin coloured tile.

    SP5-->LR-->export to jpg
    Louis, Very nice shots. I like both versions of the clock - which has the correct color? The burnt doors is a nice subject, but when I look at the image I'm having trouble with focus on the doors (I'm having blurry vision eye problems at the moment from floaters, so probably just me). The razor wire and chain link fence above the doors appears sharp, but are the doors also in focus or not?
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    Re: Sigma DP2 Merrill shots

    Just got my DP1M and DP2M today from LensRentals.com
    Did some test shots, nothing worth posting yet though
    Been shooting at ISO 100 only with making a custom WB. I find I always have to decrease exposure in SPP by about -.7 to -.9 so I don't blow the high lights and then have to add some fill light.
    Decrease noise stuff by one click..

    So when I come out of SPP in either Adobe RGB or ProPhoto 16bit tiff,
    The image looks different in PS CS6 then is does in SPP.
    I read somewhere about a bug in SPP where it does not work with display profiles. Is this true? If so is there a workaround?
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    ... is there a workaround?
    Roll back to v. 5.3.1. I found that if you go to the Sigma Corp. web page that offers only download of the current version, 5.3.2., and change the appropriate 2 in the URL to 1, you can download 5.3.1.

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    Re: Sigma DP2 Merrill shots

    Also others using 5.3.1?
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    Worth a try but, according to a post on DPR, 5.3.1 can apparently make vertical banding more obvious and that an sRGB workflow may be best for now ...

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    I use just 5.3.2, no problems with calibrated monitor. Export out of SPP to LR 4.2 in ProPhoto 16 bit Tiffs. Pics look alike in SPP and LR. On a Mac.

    Overexpose by 0.3 or 0.7 and reduce exposure in SPP, recovers highlights quite well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scho View Post
    Louis, Very nice shots. I like both versions of the clock - which has the correct color? The burnt doors is a nice subject, but when I look at the image I'm having trouble with focus on the doors (I'm having blurry vision eye problems at the moment from floaters, so probably just me). The razor wire and chain link fence above the doors appears sharp, but are the doors also in focus or not?
    Hmmm. You are right, I think there is a small amount of camera shake in the burnt doors picture. It is sharp but not sharp enough. I am a bit more concerned about the clock picture. I honestly can't recall if the brown is authentic, or whether the red in the film frame is. I'll have to pass through there again to check it out. The only thing that makes me think the brown is authentic is that the icons on the suspended sign in the background include a red one. This will bug me so I'll have to go back this week and check the colours visually!

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    A hotel in Boston.
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    Re: Sigma DP2 Merrill shots

    Retow, that first one is very confusing

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    Re: Sigma DP2 Merrill shots

    Some more from yesterday.

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    Re: Sigma DP2 Merrill shots

    What OS on your Mac are you running? I read that 10.8.2 does not work correctly.
    I am on Windows 7 64bit and it for sure does not work.

    Quote Originally Posted by W.Utsch View Post
    I use just 5.3.2, no problems with calibrated monitor. Export out of SPP to LR 4.2 in ProPhoto 16 bit Tiffs. Pics look alike in SPP and LR. On a Mac.

    Overexpose by 0.3 or 0.7 and reduce exposure in SPP, recovers highlights quite well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kuau View Post
    What OS on your Mac are you running? I read that 10.8.2 does not work correctly.
    I am on Windows 7 64bit and it for sure does not work.
    Steven, I'm also using 10.8.2 on a MBA and having no problems with SPP 5.3.2 in terms of color matching. Just the occasional, random crash. I don't do any heavy processing in SPP, just minor exposure adjustment, WB, and no noise reduction. Export 16 bit tiffs to LR.
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    Re: Sigma DP2 Merrill shots

    I just confirmed for us Windows 7 64 bit users, that indeed by using SPP 5.3.1 at least when you output out of SPP in 16bit ProPhoto that indeed it does match in PS CS6 and LR4.2

    I will uninstall 5.3.1 and go back to 5.3.2 and see if working in sRGB and outputing in 16bit sRGB does indeed work.
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    10.8.2 as well. Works fine. SPP seems not to like my 2 display setup with iMac27+ cinema display = occasional crashes when both displays are used. Displays are calibrated.

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    Re: Sigma DP2 Merrill shots

    Quentin,
    I have to ask how do you achieve what seems to be very natural colors??
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    Re: Sigma DP2 Merrill shots

    Hi Steven

    Well the light was great this afternoon which helps and I shot using sunlight not auto WB Other than that just using neutral in Photo Pro with the usual smattering of x3 fill light and tweaking in photoshop until it looks right.

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    Thanks Quentin
    So I take that starting from "Neutral" is better then "Standard"

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    Hi Steven

    Well the light was great this afternoon which helps and I shot using sunlight not auto WB Other than that just using neutral in Photo Pro with the usual smattering of x3 fill light and tweaking in photoshop until it looks right.

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    That is a very film-like capture. Reminds me of what I normally get when I scan 120 frames of Kodak Portra 160. Lovely detail in the ploughed fields and in fact all the way from the foreground to the background. Very impressed with the way the sky detail has been retained and not blown as is the norm for most digital cameras.

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    Re: Sigma DP2 Merrill shots

    OK here we go.
    My first one from my "rented" DP1M
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    Re: Sigma DP2 Merrill shots

    Looking good for your first shot, Steven...

    And yes, Neutral is better in most cases than standard. But of course you can change it in Photo Pro if shot in RAW.
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    Re: Sigma DP2 Merrill shots

    Ahhh...Louis....film!

    I never shot much colour neg film but I used to have a darkroom for B&W and had medium and large format transparency film processed by Joe's Basement and Metro.

    can't honesty say I miss it that much. I had a drum scanner at home and spent ages mounting and scanning film.

    I prefer digital!

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    Ahhh...Louis....film!

    I never shot much colour neg film but I used to have a darkroom for B&W and had medium and large format transparency film processed by Joe's Basement and Metro.

    can't honesty say I miss it that much. I had a drum scanner at home and spent ages mounting and scanning film.

    I prefer digital!

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    Yes but for someone like me who is constantly concerned about the demise of film finding a camera which might just be as good is important.

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    An afternoon walk in the local park with the DP2M. Some sailors enjoying the nice fall day on the lake and two shots of a beautiful '52 Bentley parked near the pavilion for a park fundraiser celebration of the old silent film era at this site (Wharton Studios, early 1900's).


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    Casual snapshots with the DP2M.
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    Re: Sigma DP2 Merrill shots

    It cleared up tonight here in Telluride.
    Used a 3 stop Graduated ND filter.
    Color is still a little "weird"

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    It cleared up tonight here in Telluride.
    Used a 3 stop Graduated ND filter.
    Color is still a little "weird"

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    Steven.......I'm looking at this on a MBA, so not a calibrated monitor, but it looks okay to me. What don't you like?

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    Re: Sigma DP2 Merrill shots

    A fairly high DR shot with the DP1M, caught the sun behind the steeple.

    +1.7EC. -1.0 exposure in SPP with +0.8 fill








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    just a cheers from italy, to expres some joyfull enjoying of all your wonderful pictures, unfortunatly out in front of a library in some rainy weather with a very slow connection. Have to wait on full enjoyment till I get home. Do like your well done DP1M pictures Rich! I guess you are using the 1 more than the 2 now?
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    Hi Quentin, not sure those colours are natural?
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    DP2M and action.
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    The photos from the DP2M are just fantastic but I am wondering if anyone has delved into the B&W world with it yet? Thanks!

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    Re: Sigma DP2 Merrill shots

    i made a successful shot with the dp1 in b&w, converting with sigma processor just choosing monochrome. in the dp1 thread, repeatd here:
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    Re: Sigma DP2 Merrill shots

    Sho,
    Am reading the letters and numbers on the sails of those sail boats in the distance, really something as nearly everyone is saying. This really is more than reality, some super reality as if we had binocular or telescopic vision!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlm View Post
    i made a successful shot with the dp1 in b&w, converting with sigma processor just choosing monochrome. in the dp1 thread, repeatd here:
    Fantastic conversion imho and the file quality continues to impress me. I like this B&W as much as any of the color I have seen and all done in SPP. I use the original DP1 myself but it cannot compete with this new lens/sensor combo. Great detail and tonal quality, thanks for sharing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Inglis View Post
    Sho,
    Am reading the letters and numbers on the sails of those sail boats in the distance, really something as nearly everyone is saying. This really is more than reality, some super reality as if we had binocular or telescopic vision!
    I agree John, quite amazing little camera. The focus point in that image was at the end of the dock and the gull action, but it still grabbed quite a bit of detail within the available DOF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bbodine9 View Post
    Fantastic conversion imho and the file quality continues to impress me. I like this B&W as much as any of the color I have seen and all done in SPP. I use the original DP1 myself but it cannot compete with this new lens/sensor combo. Great detail and tonal quality, thanks for sharing!
    +1 Very nice B&W conversion.
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    It cleared up tonight here in Telluride.
    Used a 3 stop Graduated ND filter.
    Color is still a little "weird"

    Steven

    Steven, I'd really like to see a link to the original file to see if that is as good as it looks.

    I just received back a 30x20inch print of this landscape I took with the DP2M and the detail is incredible. I expect that your shot would be similar.

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    Re: Sigma DP2 Merrill shots

    A few from Southwold today

    Convergence



    Watching and reading



    Relaxation



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