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    Welcome Dimych,

    dont worry, that is a regular procedure. Your first posts have to pass the moderator (takes some time, but not to long), after that, you can post everything right away.
    Locking forward to see your images.

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    Dimych,

    The moderators here can be very busy at times (and they run workshops a number of times a year); be patient. This is the best photo forum on the net, and most of us have been here since the beginning, where (from memory) this 'vetting' did not happen.

    I run my own forum, and I have set it up so that every new member has to wait for admin. approval; I check there most days and send a regular email to the address the new user has provided—and sometimes it takes them weeks to get back to me! I do not know what the background procedure here is, but the two owners are great folk and only want to encourage new members, so I ma sure this will be resolved for you soon.

    Welcome, Kit

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    Re: Sigma DP2 Merrill shots

    Bottles and Mirrors



    Shoreditch Regulations

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    Werner, Kit - thank you for clarification
    It's Ok.
    I have just been worrying if every post here is published with delay.
    That will be not fun.

    I will wait then.

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    Re: Sigma DP2 Merrill shots

    Old and new.

    Michiel

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    Re: Sigma DP2 Merrill shots

    How about some food?


    Lobster Ravioli
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    Bon appetit Malina!

    Harbour.

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    Went to the Trolley Museum in Connecticut today. Many old rusting train cars.
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    Maryland farm road. In DP2Mavision.
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    Why not try HDR ?

    It will bring out additional detail. Just go light on the post-processing.

    Just a thought.

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    By the way, that was for Quentin. Sorry.

    Did not mean that for you Peter.

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    I've been bitten by the desire to shoot facades - thanks to Michiel.
    And we thought the 1960s were over:
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    Re: Sigma DP2 Merrill shots

    Quote Originally Posted by The Ute View Post
    By the way, that was for Quentin. Sorry.

    Did not mean that for you Peter.
    No worries.
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    Re: Sigma DP2 Merrill shots

    A few DP2M images taken on a recent trip to Germany for my sister-inlaw's 70th birthday celebration.

    The village of Ladenburg, where we stayed for the birthday bash.



    Re-constructed stone/bronze age lake dwellings (Pfhalbauten) on the Bodensee.



    Pfahlbauten house detail.



    Palace courtyard at Insel Mainau on Bodensee. A 4 shot stitched pano.



    Garden cascade, Mainau, 3 shot stitch.



    Tulips were in full bloom on Mainau.



    Bodensee overlook from Mainau.



    Finally, a tranquil pastoral scene at our little hotel in the Odenwald (Lindenfels-Winterkasten) where we stayed on our way back to Frankfurt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scho View Post
    A few DP2M images taken on a recent trip to Germany for my sister-inlaw's 70th birthday celebration.

    The village of Ladenburg, where we stayed for the birthday bash.



    Re-constructed stone/bronze age lake dwellings (Pfhalbauten) on the Bodensee.



    Pfahlbauten house detail.



    Palace courtyard at Insel Mainau on Bodensee. A 4 shot stitched pano.



    Garden cascade, Mainau, 3 shot stitch.



    Tulips were in full bloom on Mainau.



    Bodensee overlook from Mainau.



    Finally, a tranquil pastoral scene at our little hotel in the Odenwald (Lindenfels-Winterkasten) where we stayed on our way back to Frankfurt.

    Love the house details and tulips, Carl! Good job!

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    Some landscapes shot from the dikes of the isle of Tholen, Zeeland, Netherlands.

    Michiel





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    Re: Sigma DP2 Merrill shots

    Michiel,

    Hey, you must get rain!!!!! In California everythings turning brown now for next 6 or 7 months. I really like the bark detain in #3 transitioning off to the Farm.
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    Re: Sigma DP2 Merrill shots

    That was Bark Details.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattpallante View Post
    Love the house details and tulips, Carl! Good job!
    Since you're new to the board may I make a suggestion.

    Quoting a large post in order to compliment the work can be done without including all the images. It keeps the flow going instead of all of us having to scroll past those images to read your one sentence.

    Just a thought.

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    Some wonderful photos on this post. You are giving me inspiration.

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    here is a pic my partner took the other day ...the detail is amzing and this was hand held ..f8 iso 100

    thanks louisB appreciate it










    tried to show pic on here via flickr link but no luck for some reason
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    Quote Originally Posted by tray271 View Post
    here is a pic my partner took the other day ...the detail is amzing and this was hand held ..f8 iso 100


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    tried to show pic on here via flickr link but no luck for some reason
    Tray

    Flickr keep on changing the rules.

    Go to Flickr and open the picture, select 'show all sizes', select your size and then right click on the 'download picture' link and choose 'Copy link address'. Then here click on the picture icon and when the dialogue box opens paste the address into the open link window here at the board. Should work.

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    Still working on Cuba files.
    Here are some quiet compositions.







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    abstract and strong!
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    I try to add something from the other hemisphere:

    London, Mayfair

    Nr.38


    Nr. 36


    @ Michiel: Your Cuban Series is fantastic !! (as are all of your posts, oc)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorkil View Post
    abstract and strong!
    Thorkil
    Thank you so much Thorkil!

    Took me some time to find the right crops for these.

    And W. Utch, Thanks

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    "Took me some time to find the right crops for these.
    Michiel"

    I find #135 especially intriguing, looking through the window at flowers on a table and out the back window at another colorful street scene! I feel like it is unending! Is there another window looking out to another scene???? Reminds me of shooting into a multifaceted mirror in an amusement park, seeing my reflection hundreds of times, very strange.

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    London, Mayfair: Short Story

    Where is "Leica of Mayfair" ????



    There it is !! Next to No. 36 !!
    But no Leica M to take away....fu...




    Better stick with the DP2M and go to the Pub.......


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    Re: Sigma DP2 Merrill shots

    After a lot of fiddling (and with LouisB's and mezzoduomo's help) I finally figured out how to post images that aren't these 'clickable' thumbnails.

    Now I hope you like what I see...in DP2M-vision.

    The first new shot is Front Yard Faerie Land.

    (P.S. I deleted all previous uploads on this thread. Sorry.)

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    Now a shot on our deck.

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    City skyline diptych - taken from 'Suicide Bridge' in Highgate overlooking Archway, London, England.

    I had both my DP2M (left) and RX-1 (right) on me and was not aiming to take comparison shots. However I ended up with these two.



    These are both 6x4 slices of approximately 1/3 of the frames. If you really want to pixel peep and see the comparison then the full size 8MB file is here.

    Personally, I prefer the colour and texture of the RX-1 which is pretty much 'out of the camera'. I had to work hard to get colour and contrast into the DP2M picture. Having said that at 100% the Sigma frame is a thing of beauty and something to marvel at.
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    Mr Utch - Leica Mayfair is one shop I will not be visiting again since acquiring my brace of Sigma and Sony cameras!

    Nice captures, though.

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    Yea, Louis - i agree: proceeded to the Pub next-door.

    Let me zoom-in a little bit in your skyline:

    The Shard

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    Re: Sigma DP2 Merrill shots

    Louis, your side-by-side comparison is fascinating. IMHO, upon close inspection the 24 MP RX1 image while certainly sharp as all get out appears to be slightly bested by the 15 MP Foveon file. But....the colors on the RX1 are indeed superb. And the texture (for me) seems to have a definite romantic film quality to it--something I've concluded after having seen so many fine samples posted here, flickr and other image discussion venues. In fact, as much as I love the DP2M, lately I've been wondering if the Foveon sensor creates images that are TOO sharp. While the ever-so-slightly-soft (but still very very sharp) images created by the Sony sensor/Zeiss optic combination with its 24 MPs seem to trade clinical sharpness for a little more soul. (Although I suppose with more practice I could coax more soul out of my DP2M shots. A LOT of practice. )
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    This is my conclusion as well. Although I'd rationalise it somewhat differently. I finally fell out of my love of my Leica M8 when I started using MF film. MF film had a feeling and a detail which the M8 could not match. That said my M8 produced the best, sharpest, most colourful pictures of any digital camera at the time it was made (imho). When I look at these two images - the RX-1 reminds me of the beauty of Leica digital photography but the DP2M image looks much more like my MF film photography. If I were printing 30x20 I'd definitely choose the DP2M image and I suspect the viewers would be amazed at the crispness and detail. If I was posting to the web or printing slightly smaller then I'd choose the RX-1. I am (of course) amazingly fortunate to be able to have that choice but push come to shove I'd still choose the DP2M over the RX-1.

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    Want to add a little to the discussion.
    As you, i also have both the Merrill's 2 + 3 and the RX1. This Combo, i think, is very hard to beat. The RX 1 shines at the weaker sides of the Merrill's - high ISO ...etc, you know..... and it complements the set to the wider side.
    Sharpness, resolution and (special) character of the files, well, the RX1 cannot reach the DPM's. You can tell that at looking at Louis files above.

    Regarding Leica, for me it is the same story like Louis's.
    Loved for long my M8 with the Leica lenses. It is still a great Cam and i wont sell it nor the lenses. The new M? Well, what i have seen so far i am not very convinced: Bought the RX1!

    As an other example we stay in London.

    This time the "View from the Shard".

    The image is in now way great (artistic), but....the conditions up there where very bad: Rain, clouds, reflections in the dirty windows...., it is almost incredible what the DP2M got out of this scene. With a little PP (increase the contrast, adjust the exposure, a little more saturation, NO sharpening) the detail is amazing. I am quite sure, that neither the Sony, nor the Leica would be able to produce a file like this under these conditions.

    Printed it looks just superb. Be sure to look at 100% via Flickr!

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    Re: Sigma DP2 Merrill shots

    W. Utsch,

    Ever since I got my DP2M I've gotten the feeling that while it would still be the first camera I'd grab I definitely need a camera whose strengths complement the DP2M's weaknesses--namely low (or lower) light situations or all those times when a quiet, unobtrusive cam with lower noise at higher iSO needs would come in handy.

    But not just any camera...one that would certainly be in the same league as what I've come to expect from (or spoiled by?) my little Merrill. As a result I'm considering either the RX1 which by all accounts is technically the most amazing compact out there at the moment (as you and LouisB are certainly enjoying), or, its somewhat more affordable (and in my estimation slightly more capable VF-wise) challenger, the new Fuji X100s, whose latest iteration seems to have solved most of the objections found in its initial installment. As a backup camera! (Yeah..you read that right. The DP would be a first choice when conditions are optimal.)
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    W. Utsch,

    As a result I'm considering either the RX1 which by all accounts is technically the most amazing compact out there at the moment (as you and LouisB are certainly enjoying), or, its somewhat more affordable (and in my estimation slightly more capable VF-wise) challenger, the new Fuji X100s whose latest iteration seems to have solved most of the objections found in its initial installment......
    I went through this thought and selection process, and settled on the 'initial installment' (X100) as my solution to these issues. I got it 'pre-owned' and it suits my budget. I find it to be a worthy compliment to my Merrills (1 & 2).
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    peterb:

    I agree 100%, i considered the Fuji 100s as well, but then i got an offer for the RX1 i could not resist.
    So, i think the 100S would do the job really good.

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    Beach in Marina di Pietrasanta, Tuscany, Italy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcoPampaloni View Post
    Beach in Marina di Pietrasanta, Tuscany, Italy.
    I would have been so pleased if you had posted here:

    Foveon Sensor, SPP Monochrome - Images

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    Peter

    The RX-1 is a superb camera and suits my style. The x100s is also a high quality camera, you cannot do wrong by that as a purchase. I tried both and was lucky to find a second user RX-1 from a dealer who would stand by the guarantee so I thought it too good an opportunity to pass up. Otherwise I would have gone down the Fuji route.

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    Louis, W. Utsch,

    Definitely leaning toward the X100s. But there's still an outside chance I could be lucky as you two to land RX1 that can be summed up in two words: Helloooooooooo Ebay.
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    @Marco
    Benvenuto al forum! Un foto fantastico!

    London, Burlington Arcade:

    "Lips"



    Was lucky to get the saleswomen when she was touching her lips.

    It is an ISO 640 shot, shows that the DP2M is not at all that bad at "higher" ISO. That's true at 100% oc.
    I do not hesitate to use it up to ISO 800 for color, BW is anyhow no problem to 1600 or even 3200.
    The Merrill's hold detail at higher ISO very good, the biggest problem you can run in are the infamous "color blotches" and saturation. But no cam, even the RX1, is really "perfect" at high ISO (not to speak about film).
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    I've been using the X100 for a while and got it before my DP2M. They do complement each other well, and I miss the viewfinder on the X100 when using the Sigma! Not considering an upgrade to the X100s at this stage as I don't think the improvements are worth it.
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    It is an ISO 640 shot, shows that the DP2M is not at all that bad at "higher" ISO. That's true at 100% oc.
    I do not hesitate to use it up to ISO 800 for color, BW is anyhow no problem to 1600 or even 3200.
    The Merrill's hold detail at higher ISO very good, the biggest problem you can run in are the infamous "color blotches" and saturation. But no cam, even the RX1, is really "perfect" at high ISO (not to speak about film).
    Totally agree! From my early experiments with Panasonic's G1 (the camera I used until the DP2M came into my life and still use for less critical shots because I totally love its swiveling LCD) and trying to find optimal ISO to use I found that ISO up to 320 yielded excellent results with no (or minimal) noise. And that seems to remain true for the Merrills! In fact, using the G1 with its ISO limitations has proved to be excellent preparation for using the DP2M!

    Continuing that logic I then found at ISO 400 shots taken with a Merrill while not as completely noise free as ISO 320 and lower were also indeed quite good right up until ISO 640.

    Interestingly, while noise at ISO 800 isn't bad by any stretch (just that for a third stop less ISO 640 as you've found is as good as ISO 400), I found often found color to be a tad too pastel looking. Tweaking the saturation either in SPP or Lightroom seems to adjust things nicely. (In SPP sometimes going to 'landscape' or 'portrait' adds just enough saturation in certain situations to also provide a nice effect but you have to be careful. Most of the time it's just a little too much for my tastes.).

    Regarding BW, as you've found, I've had good results clear up to ISO 3200 where the noise as I've often posted seems to have a certain Tri-X quality to it. The added features in the new-ish SPP monochrome with its grain size and roughness sliders are nothing short of amazing. The Topaz' plug-in, DeNoise, used via Lightroom or Photoshop can even make hay of SPP produced TIFFS taken as high as ISO 5000. There's a slight loss in detail but since the Merrill has detail in spades the results are still quite incredible.
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    Early morning at the Lincoln memorial. Enjoy.








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    Little visitor from animal kingdom. Taken on a motorcycle trip around lake Vőrtsu. Shot handheld.



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    Peter, fair way from the Cape ..... You staying for the Memorial Day activities there this weekend? I may be there with the Rolling Thunder at the Vietnam Memorial.......

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    Hi Jim,

    Rolling thunder? Waaaay cool. Ever go to Lake George, NY on Memorial Day? That's another experience. As for me, much as I'll miss being on the Cape I'll probably pop by the Mall to see the action. In the meantime, here are some other shots that morning of that amazing memorial among other things I saw.

    The always hauntingly moving Viet Nam Memorial:



    The Washington monument in early light.



    Mall rats of a different kind:







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