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    Refreshed!

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    Outta here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by adrewdecourcy View Post
    ....those gentle, soft, modest.... yet strong colours, you often do, Julian....
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    Lovely photo... tell us more about where it was taken, the processing, etc.
    Thanks for sharing...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rand47 View Post
    Lovely photo... tell us more about where it was taken, the processing, etc.
    Thanks for sharing...
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    Thanks a lot.
    The image was taken on a short break on the way from north to south of Switzerland at San Bernardino Pass. (aprox. 2100 meters above sea)
    It's just a couple of minutes away from the main road.
    I took 3 exposures (+/- 2.0 EV) for maximum (clean) data and used photomatix for a "flat" and natural looking HDR.
    (The shot was also possible to achieve with one exposure (ISO 100 and -1.0 EV exposure compensation), but i wanted to have clean and saturated shadows)
    The rest was done in photoshop (color and contrast adjustments, a bit dodge and burn…)
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    Black-Eyed Susans (taken with the Sigma AML Close-up lens attachment for the DP2M).




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    Outing at Great Falls, Virginia (USA).

    Overview:



    Dreamy falls. (Taken with three ND filters, stacked together.)




    Watching the soft flows of water.




    Last sun over the falls.

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    Both developed in Iridient.

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    Iridient 3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphie View Post




    Both developed in Iridient.

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    Out of interest, where is this stately home, Lee?
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    2000 lbs of angry pot roast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xpatUSA View Post
    Out of interest, where is this stately home, Lee?
    Top one, Montachute House: Montacute House - Visitor information - National Trust

    Bottom shot Tintinhull Gardens, just round the corner: Tintinhull Garden - Visitor information - National Trust

    Merrill ideally suited ...

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    Schliersee - Germany - Bavaria
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    Miniland...
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    Iridient 3.

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    Iridient 3

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    First posts in this forum ... :-)

    Sigma DP2M

    Dubai Mall, Dubai
    ƒ/5, 1/200s, ISO 100



    New Delhi, India
    ƒ/2.8, 1/200s, ISO 200


    Cheers !
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    Fishing for crabs at low tide, Mousehole.

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    Munnar Hills
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    ƒ/10, 1/100s, ISO 200




    ƒ/10, 1/320s, ISO 200

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    Re: Sigma DP2 Merrill shots

    Found this

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    WRASSE by JULIAN de Courcy, on Flickr
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    [IMG]DP2M0049-Edit by Jeff Seah, on Flickr[/IMG]

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    This is quite a substantial crop but I am not sure if much can beat the DP2M ...

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    The detail in the full size version of this is extraordinary.

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    These are a few shots taken of a mini-series of this 94 yrs old lady who sew quilt for sale in the temple
    Have always chatted with her as she is a good friend of my grandma
    At her age her eyesight is still superb even though her hands that have sewn numerous quilts are already worn out
    [IMG]DP2M0040-Edit by Jeff Seah, on Flickr[/IMG]

    [IMG]DP2M0041-Edit by Jeff Seah, on Flickr[/IMG]

    DP2M0047-Edit by Jeff Seah, on Flickr

    DP2M0054-Edit by Jeff Seah, on Flickr

    [IMG]DP2M0051-Edit by Jeff Seah, on Flickr[/IMG]

    DP2M0049-Edit by Jeff Seah, on Flickr

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    Something in Color
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    Hi, I am a new owner of Sigma DP2M camera and last week-end I had the chance to test it.
    I am sure I didn't used the camera at its full potential, I am no artist, but the shots are over-exposed.
    I used the evaluative mode, next time I will switch to center-weighted.
    All the images are jpegs from camera, no processing at all. Vivid color mode, aperture priority, ISO 100.
    The results were an unpleasant surprise for me, because almost all the images I can see on this forum and on other sites are very well exposed and full of colors. I am sure it is my mistake, maybe I should use RAW.
    Anyway, I will continue to experiment with this camera.
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    Florin, wellcome, your shots arent overexposed but you shot at the wrong time, when the sun was very high. Better is to shoot when the sun is lower, contrasts are not that harsh, shadows are more visible to bring 3D look and colors are more saturated.
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    My standard settings on the DP2m are: ISO: 200, colors: ntr, contrast: -0.2, saturation: +0.2,
    there has been some discussion about, a lot of people see ISO 200 as the native ISO with the widest dynamic range
    Have fun and be patient with your Sigma baby, its worth the effort.
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    Florin, caused by your Thanks, some more words:
    This forum is the place to find pics from some excellent fotographers, so dont be frustrated if you compare to your work but try to see what makes their pics that good.
    Beside composition its all about light, as basic rule: you cannot force a good picture (outside the studio ), you have to be patient and wait for the right light for the place you want to shoot. I am sure here are outstanding landscape pics where the shooter has been 10 or more times to look for the light, "good" light not only depends on the position of the sun but also on haze on so on.
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    Thank you again for your advice!
    You are true, that day was far from being a good day for landscapes, not even at sunrise or sunset. I hope that in two weeks time mother nature will show us more colors and good light, as the vegetation will turn to yellow or red and fog will be all over.
    I know photography is about light, composition and patience. It is a real pleasure for me to look at the images shot by the much more experienced photographers on this forum, and, as I said, even if I am not an artist at all, I hope that some day I will take a shot close to what I am seeing here.




    Quote Originally Posted by foveon View Post
    Florin, caused by your Thanks, some more words:
    This forum is the place to find pics from some excellent fotographers, so dont be frustrated if you compare to your work but try to see what makes their pics that good.
    Beside composition its all about light, as basic rule: you cannot force a good picture (outside the studio ), you have to be patient and wait for the right light for the place you want to shoot. I am sure here are outstanding landscape pics where the shooter has been 10 or more times to look for the light, "good" light not only depends on the position of the sun but also on haze on so on.

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    to me it seems that composition is not a big issue for you and for the light you just have to wait;
    I dont know how far you are away from the places you showed us, good is to choose a place where you can go often at different times, I have here around some places where I go daily or daily twico to look for good light and a miracle.^^

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    Just one word about ISO 200: The dynamic range is not higher than ISO 100, it just gives you 1 stop more highlight recovery at the expense of cleaner shadows. The Merrill sensor is ISO-less, so it's all about the right exposure. ISO 200 and ISO 100 -1EV exposure correction gives you the same RAW file (although SPP handles different ISO with different amount of noise reduction)
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    dont get the point, "ISO 200 and ISO 100 -1EV exposure correction gives you the same RAW file" and "it just gives you 1 stop more highlight recovery at the expense of cleaner shadows", so is it the same file or not?^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by foveon View Post
    dont get the point, "ISO 200 and ISO 100 -1EV exposure correction gives you the same RAW file" and "it just gives you 1 stop more highlight recovery at the expense of cleaner shadows", so is it the same file or not?^^
    If you under expose the ISO 100 shot by 1 stop, then it is the same file like ISO 200 without exposure correction. (it's the same shutter speed)
    If you don't under expose the ISO 100 shot, then the camera exposes longer (twice as long) so highlights clip earlier but you get cleaner shadows.

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    what are you talking about under exposure? I said ISO 200 gives more dynamic range and I dont set exposure by compensation but manual all the time^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by foveon View Post
    what are you talking about under exposure? I said ISO 200 gives more dynamic range and I dont set exposure by compensation but manual all the time^^
    Yes and i said this is not the case because dynamic range is more than just highlight recovery. It's also about shadow recovery.

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    The Merrill sensor is ISO-less,

    I have never heard that. What do you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonygamble View Post
    The Merrill sensor is ISO-less,

    I have never heard that. What do you mean?

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    Allow me:

    Unlike the majority of Bayer cameras, the majority of Sigma Cameras do not have a variable gain amplifier (VGA) in front of each analog to digital converter (ADC). The exceptions are the SD15, the DP1x, DP2x and the Quattro, all of which have been said to "lack headroom".

    So, with a Merrill and talking raw, the camera ISO setting is simply written into the X3F meta-data and SPP does the "amplification" that conventionally would have been done in-camera. That is to say that, for a given exposure, the raw data itself is not affected by the ISO setting, hence "ISO-less".

    And that is why, as said in earlier posts, there is absolutely no difference in the raw data between shooting at 200 ISO, 0EV or at 100 ISO, -1EV or even 400 ISO, +1EV for that matter. In SPP, appropriate movement of the EC slider will give 3 identically bright images.

    I myself shoot at 160 ISO with my SD1M because that is about the closest it gets to the official ISO "saturation based" method of determining the exposure index for a digital camera.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonygamble View Post
    The Merrill sensor is ISO-less,

    I have never heard that. What do you mean?

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    It means that "ISO" is just a "tag" in the RAW file. ISO 800 in reality is the same like ISO 100 under exposed by 3 stops. If you open it in RAW Digger, you will see a very dark/"under exposed" photo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by foveon View Post
    I said ISO 200 gives more dynamic range and I don't set exposure by compensation but manual all the time^^
    The trouble here is that "dynamic range" has several definitions. Therefore the statement might or might not be correct. For example, noise-based and taking the range as being between the brightest and darkest parts of an image, we could say that dark noise is some number, maybe 8, which is always there no matter what the exposure.

    Now we meter some scene at ISO 100 and shoot at +/- 0 on the meter. Let's say the sensor outputs 4000 out of a possible 4095.

    The captured dynamic range is log2(4000/8) = 9EV. The raw headroom is a count of 95.

    Now we meter same scene at ISO 200 and shoot again at +/- 0 on the meter. The sensor will output 2000 out of a possible 4095.

    The captured dynamic range is log2(2000/8) = 8EV. The raw headroom is a count of 2095.

    SPP knows you shot at ISO 200, so it multiplies the sensor data by two: the image dynamic range becomes log2(4000/16) which still equals 8EV.

    Therefore, by that definition, ISO 200 gives less dynamic range than ISO 100, not more . . .

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    Thanks for that about the ISO.

    Now I know.

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    Re: Sigma DP2 Merrill shots

    I return with a question: what WB settings do you guys usually use? I use mostly Auto WB but sometimes I like more Sunlight on the camera display, only to return to auto when I view the files on my laptop.
    I have one more camera, an Olympus E-450, which lets me choose the WB in Kelvin, most of the time I set it to 5800K-6400K.
    With Sigma I am stucked with the preset WB, no fine tunning, not even in SPP.

    I hope you will not find my question stupid, I am only begining to experiment with this camera and RAW editing. Olympus jpeg straight from the camera is perfectly usable.

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    I never use auto, sun most of the time, artifical or flash when needed^^

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    Does the Sigma Raw file alter when the WB in the camera is changed?

    I ask because my understanding has been that non Sigma RAWs - such as those from an Oly E-M5 are not altered. It is only the jpg that changes. There may be RAW conversion software that reads the WB info in the EXIF - but that is not the same as the RAW itself changing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonygamble View Post
    Does the Sigma Raw file alter when the WB in the camera is changed?
    No, it's the same like with Bayer Cameras. You can change the WB non destructive in SPP later to your taste.
    But it's always a good idea to make a manual WB on the field as this is not possible to achieve on the computer later.

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