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    You are right Uwe, but will loose then on the other side and get out of symmetry.
    BTW: I took this shoot (the door) with the 2M, which works better - could step forward and leaf the tree behind me

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    >but will loose then on the other side and get out of symmetry.

    Right, but better than with the tree :-). DP2M is then the solution I guess.
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    Uwe, you seem to enjoy the little longer focal length of the DP3M, excellent (sp. the 1st one)!

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    Nice Uwe! Are your other cameras trembling in the closet as well? Like Carl.

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    Some very nice photo guys !! I love it, especially when we get some new adepts in the sect

    I'm a actually in heavy printing job of my work so I can't really work on my photos but be sure I think about it. How big can be printed a crop out of the DP3m ?? largely over what you can expect...

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    Wow......Hulyss, that looks great (in all meanings).
    What printer was used? Used a RIP?

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    Hello W. ,

    Thank you ! I used my EPSON® Stylus Pro 9800. For little prints I use my R3000. It take some times to go out but results are more than correct. Personally, I'm done with RIPs.

    I trashed all this waste of time long ago and, for example, black and white out of the original EPSON driver are simply VERY good and colors AWESOME. RIPs can tweak it a bit but seriously ... it do not worth the waste of time and configuration.

    If I need something very adjusted (like scientific shoots) I ask lab to print it but for now I b=never add to do this (even for reproduction shoot).

    The thing is that the 9800 have 8 cartridges when new ESPON printers do have 9, like the R3000 for example. After extensive use ... the difference between 8 and 9 cartridges are more than minimal, especially on prints that big.

    By the way, the shoot above was done with a phone. Have a look at the real detail of this print

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    Here is some extreme pre-set some of you can find useful :

    You just have to import it in SPP. >>>> www.hulyssbowman.com/tempo/Preset.zip
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    Some photos of my patient on my last workshop. Yes, some photographers are able to do thousands of Km do come to learn foveon by the hard way with me I say patient because foveon is more a therapy than a boring technical impersonal workshop











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    Streambed hike after the rain....

    I am such a sucker for water drops...embarrassing..






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    Wow Rich, I like your photos. Lucky you you have some interesting plants in your area !

    Some Random shoots today:







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    Rich, those shots are really embarrassing and that last plant is insane!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulyss Bowman View Post
    Hulyss......I love this one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Michiel Schierbeek View Post
    Rich, those shots are really embarrassing and that last plant is insane!
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    I am going for 1:1.....hhmmm.....that sounds weird.

    Playing around with the Canon 250D close-up lens. I was never good at optics math. I wonder what the magnification ratio is with this diopter?

    I like it....what I really like is that there isn't a lot of gear to play with.

    Kinda dreamy...





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    Weather changed from winter to summer within 2 days.

    Old gas tanks:

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    A couple of panos taken with the DP3M on the GigaPan Epic 100 and stitched with AutoPano Pro 3. Click small images for larger quarter size image or link for full size original.

    Buttermilk Falls 12 shots, note illegal hikers on gorge trail. Trail was gated and marked with closed signs. They could face hefty fines if the park ranger catches them. Trail is closed all winter and doesn't re-open until ice free and gorge wall scaling is completed.



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    Structures: Windows of an old abandoned slaughterhouse


    The DR is quite good, there is still something to see behind the windows (don't know about the JPEGS at Flickr) in the originals at 100%
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    Just got the DP3M yesterday. IQ every bit as good as the (excellent) DP2M if not better. Lens seems outstanding.
    Thanks for all the great shots here, truly inspiring!
    Will post a few when I have something worthwhile.

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    HDR stitched, 2x3 rows....I think

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    The forum seems to sleep, something from today:

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    First gorge walk of the season. When I started my hike it was overcast (good), but just as I was setting up for my first pano the sun came out (bad). I had to heavily crop the few shots that were salvaged to eliminate blow out areas. Sigma DP3M on the GigaPan.



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    A couple more panorama shots taken down by the lake with the DP3M+GigaPan.

    This image used 15 shots and was taken from the middle of a narrow footbridge (similar to the bridge on right in the image) and I had to pause the pano once to let a couple of walkers pass.

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    An approx 180 degree pano looking north on Cayuga Lake. 20 shots.



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    Great panos Carl !
    I am looking at the GigaPan Epic 100 since some time. How is the portability of the GP?
    Using a NodalNinja with small or medium tripod right now. That is pretty fast to install and relatively light and portable.
    The GP is probably to heavy and bulky and counters the idea of small, light and unobtrusive gear.....would be pleased to hear your experiences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by W.Utsch View Post
    Great panos Carl !
    I am looking at the GigaPan Epic 100 since some time. How is the portability of the GP?
    Using a NodalNinja with small or medium tripod right now. That is pretty fast to install and relatively light and portable.
    The GP is probably to heavy and bulky and counters the idea of small, light and unobtrusive gear.....would be pleased to hear your experiences.

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    Thanks Werner. The GigaPan 100 is most definitely not "small and unobtrusive". I leave the DP3M mounted to the GigaPan and carry the whole assembly in a Crumpler 6M bag together with extra batteries for both camera and GP. I hiked with it through one of the gorges last week and it was similar (although not quite as bad) to carrying my old 4x5 kit. Set-up is pretty quick. Just pop the unit with camera out of bag and onto tripod. Level, set camera focus, exposure, WB and then start GP.
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    Thank you Carl for your answer. I thought so about the GigaPan (love the concept though), the NodalNinja (unmounted) is quite small and light.
    Remember, as you, the days with the Linhof 4x5 or 6x9 , some 25 years ago, fun... yes, but sweat as well - like hell. Then, hours in the wet darkroom....it was hard work.
    Today we can be happy with the DPM's and SPP...even the DSLR's are to big and heavy for me now.

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    This is a four image stitch of the culture house Hausmania in Oslo:



    Click the image to see it full size. Note that it is multi-resolution, and will load fairly quickly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scho View Post
    Thanks Werner. The GigaPan 100 is most definitely not "small and unobtrusive". I leave the DP3M mounted to the GigaPan and carry the whole assembly in a Crumpler 6M bag together with extra batteries for both camera and GP. I hiked with it through one of the gorges last week and it was similar (although not quite as bad) to carrying my old 4x5 kit. Set-up is pretty quick. Just pop the unit with camera out of bag and onto tripod. Level, set camera focus, exposure, WB and then start GP.

    I was just reading about this unit and see it has $60 instant rebate till 4/30/13 and comes with a "GigaPan Stitch Software" You ever use that software that is provided and is it any good scho?

    At $340 for a Nodal Ninja 6-8-30 with leveler and $390 for the Giga Pan 100 with software it seems like a better deal for someone who would have to get a Pano software anyway to do horizontal and vertical stitched images. The only thing I have used is photoshops stitching for 3-6 vertical orientated images and a trial of PTgui years ago (worked OK but I was not really that into pano's back then either).

    scho, one last question, I read the giga stitch works better with longer focal lengths...... did you ever use your DP2m with the giga pan and giga stitch software?

    If your responses are favorable I may pull the trigger before midnight today to take advantage of the current $60 savings. I think the DP2m has given me more interest in pano's. I was originally thinking about the NNMK2/leveler and never considered this gigaPan 100.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim DE View Post
    I was just reading about this unit and see it has $60 instant rebate till 4/30/13 and comes with a "GigaPan Stitch Software" You ever use that software that is provided and is it any good scho?

    At $340 for a Nodal Ninja 6-8-30 with leveler and $390 for the Giga Pan 100 with software it seems like a better deal for someone who would have to get a Pano software anyway to do horizontal and vertical stitched images. The only thing I have used is photoshops stitching for 3-6 vertical orientated images and a trial of PTgui years ago (worked OK but I was not really that into pano's back then either).

    scho, one last question, I read the giga stitch works better with longer focal lengths...... did you ever use your DP2m with the giga pan and giga stitch software?

    If your responses are favorable I may pull the trigger before midnight today to take advantage of the current $60 savings. I think the DP2m has given me more interest in pano's. I was originally thinking about the NNMK2/leveler and never considered this gigaPan 100.
    Hi Jim,

    No, I haven't tried my DP2M yet with the GP. Longer focal length is better for getting max detail in the pano. I tried using the free "Stitch" software from GP, but it crashed frequently on my Mac and I gave up on using it. I bought AutoPano Pro 3 from Kolor for 99 euro. Excellent software and very easy to use. Your camera will always be used in landscape orientation with GP and it just shoots as many rows and columns needed for the pano coverage (defined by upper left and lower right corners of your scene). Most of the panos I've done so far with the DP3M+GP have required 6 to 24 shots.
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    Thanks scho....

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    Old industry in BW, SPP 5.5.1 Monchrome

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    This is Nestlenook Farm in Jackson, NH


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    This pic is starting to grow on me. Diana's Bath, NH

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    The Museum of the city of Worms, Germany:


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    Focus stacked

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    Hello,

    Were are humans ??

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    One more...Clinton, NJ



    More images & full size here.
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    [QUOTE=Hulyss Bowman;511187]Hello,

    Were are humans ??

    Long gone it seems , perhaps waiting (if they are waiting for the World to be a better place to live in...it might take some time...so why not just, meanwhile.......beautiful girl by the way!)
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    Looking down on Reykjavik:

    Colorful Reykjavik | Flickr - Photo Sharing!


    And a really nice sunset shot:

    Day's Remnants | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

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    Classic cars.
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    And some more classic car impressions.
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    Love my DP2, loving the DP3 too!

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    Lets bring up this thread

















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    Let's bump this thread, C'mon guys I know you want to post more !

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    Wonderful shots, keep em coming! =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ggibson View Post
    Wonderful shots, keep em coming! =)
    Ok, more girls then, look like girls are forum fuel !

    Charlie, one of my new models - DP3m 800 ISO

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    A last one for today.

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    Few (slightly late perhaps) thoughts on the Gigapan units....

    The Merrill's (not SD1 of course) will actually work on the slightly lighter and cheaper normal Gigapan Epic, don't really need the 100 as you can get the button pusher part high enough to work with the Epic.

    I've had the Epic 100 as well and one of the main reasons I bought that was it can have a remote release cable which was great for my GH2, but rather pointless with the DPXm. It also can take multiple shots in each position, which is nice for bracketing, but I found by just setting a long shot to shot time and long shutter press, you can get by pretty well with just auto bracket as the camera takes 3 shots, while the Gigapan thinks its just doing one.

    Additionally in that regard, I find it better to shoot a pano at one exposure, then go back and change exposure. Reason being, each shot to shot frame has less stitching error from blowing clouds and changing light. The first bracket frame with the normal exposure needs to wait for 2 more frames to be taken before shooting the next position basically. It would be like manually doing a pano, taking a shot, then waiting. I just think having 2/3 pano's with the best sitching, and then blending the whole thing works best.

    Battery life. The DPxM and Gigapan are a match made in battery hell. Spares are needed for both and you will go through many sets on a day of shooting. Both devices just are awful in that regard. Is what it is, but be aware.

    Size/weight. The Gigapan is under 4lbs but darn if it doesn't feel like a brick in the back, but while a brick would be easy to fit into any bag, the design makes it a big of a space hog too. You can carry it with the camera mounted at least so its quick to set up as you can program in the FoV for the camera in advance though. The results can be worth the effort though.

    Other options.... One thing I don't like about the Gigapan is that you mount the camera horizontal. That means almost everything is a 2 row pano at least, when really 1 vertical row could of worked just fine. For this reason, amongst others, I think a manual rig, like a NN, or even just a ballhead flipped upside down to give you a level panning base, is much quicker to use and easier to carry.

    Just using an inverted ballhead and little homemade right angle bracket I can knock out a 4-5 frame single row pano quicker than I can even get the Gigapan turned on.

    Gigapan is an awesome thing when your doing a big multirow and it works great, but you have to really do a lot of pano's and mosiacs at that.

    Buying one for single row occasional stuff is going to result in a unit that always gets left at home
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