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Ricoh GXR, did you see this ???
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douglasf13
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+1
Making the sensors and lenses independently swappable would make much more sense. So far, we have a zoom lens married to a P&S sized sensor, and a rather large 50mm attached to an APS-C sensor. Neither look all that appealing to me (i like the 50, but it seems to bulky.)
i think they came out with that small sensor zoom to satisfy users who were waiting for the GX300 -- which is not likely to happen. the sensor is slightly bigger than the GX200, but... well, if zoom is your thing, i can see this not being that tempting.
still, i imagine they will have a zoom with a larger sensor available at a later date -- that's the beauty of this system.
my interest is in the 50mm (it looks to be most things i hoped the X1 would be).
however, say at a later date i am off to travel and would really like a zoom for vacation pics. i already have the body and VF for a lens i really love. all i need to buy is a slip-in zoom and voila! talk about space savings -- and, yes, eventually monetarily as well.
there have been times (again, it only seems to be holidays) where i actually did desire a zoom -- but not enough to go out and buy a new camera... a new cartridge, though? hmmm. i possibly would have...
still, i imagine they will have a zoom with a larger sensor available at a later date -- that's the beauty of this system.
my interest is in the 50mm (it looks to be most things i hoped the X1 would be).
however, say at a later date i am off to travel and would really like a zoom for vacation pics. i already have the body and VF for a lens i really love. all i need to buy is a slip-in zoom and voila! talk about space savings -- and, yes, eventually monetarily as well.
there have been times (again, it only seems to be holidays) where i actually did desire a zoom -- but not enough to go out and buy a new camera... a new cartridge, though? hmmm. i possibly would have...
Joan
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For me, (with my wretched bad back and aversion to weight) a zoom is simply the most practical thing. I have a very small budget for photography, so I get the most bang for my buck with it. So, right now, all I have for my G1 is the 14-140 and the 20. Love the results from the 20, but couldn't live with only that. When my ship comes in (read: win the lotto) I will have the M9 and several choice lenses! LOL
Will
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Having read far to many posts on various forums and had time to ponder I'm beginning to think Ricoh have been very clever in marketing and PR terms if nothing else. They have basically launched a 50mm e prime large sensor compact onto the market (forget the 24-70, that is just a GX200 increment) and gained huge publicity for it. Without the interchangeable modular system everyone would have been very happy but thought it a little boring. The only really big mistake I think is not to have launched it solely as a kit with the 50mm e to start with. The body and add ons should have followed shortly after with the body being priced very low.
Then comes the really good bit. As we all know Ricoh is is the only camera manufacturer who really does listen to is customers and makes the improvements that they ask for on a regular incremental basis. It is their unique place in the market. They have just launched a system which allows them endless possibilities to rapidly respond to our wishes. Brilliant!
Then comes the really good bit. As we all know Ricoh is is the only camera manufacturer who really does listen to is customers and makes the improvements that they ask for on a regular incremental basis. It is their unique place in the market. They have just launched a system which allows them endless possibilities to rapidly respond to our wishes. Brilliant!
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D upton-Hackett.
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I concur with Joan who has just described my contented forever camera/lens kit.
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PeterLeyssens
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Hi,
I had the problem that I dislike my DSLR for all reasons that make a DSLR a DSLR: bulky, noisy, hard to use autofocus and practically speaking, nearly only zooms available. So I got myself an LX3 and I'm loving it to bits.
What the GXR does, is get rid of several of my problems while keeping the same UI. I can have a camera that is nearly a GX200 and use it as a pocketable camera (slightly bigger than the LX3). Or, when doing serious portrait work, I can swap out the zoom for the 50mm equiv and do my thing, keeping the same user interface. And frankly, the samples of the 50mm look incredible. It's a shame it's not at least an f2.0, because the f2.5's DOF will be equivalent to a 50/f3.5 on a film camera, which means you'd better have the background rather far away. But it is very promising and who knows what other combos they'll come up with.
As for the Leica or other lens mount modules: Simon Joinston on DPReview already said that Ricoh has shown very little interest in that. I know the first rumours were that they might be interested, but Simon clearly said that's not what they heard. As for me, a mount module could be a nice toy, but not really what I need. I like the camera as it is and I'm looking forward to what comes next !
Peter.
I had the problem that I dislike my DSLR for all reasons that make a DSLR a DSLR: bulky, noisy, hard to use autofocus and practically speaking, nearly only zooms available. So I got myself an LX3 and I'm loving it to bits.
What the GXR does, is get rid of several of my problems while keeping the same UI. I can have a camera that is nearly a GX200 and use it as a pocketable camera (slightly bigger than the LX3). Or, when doing serious portrait work, I can swap out the zoom for the 50mm equiv and do my thing, keeping the same user interface. And frankly, the samples of the 50mm look incredible. It's a shame it's not at least an f2.0, because the f2.5's DOF will be equivalent to a 50/f3.5 on a film camera, which means you'd better have the background rather far away. But it is very promising and who knows what other combos they'll come up with.
As for the Leica or other lens mount modules: Simon Joinston on DPReview already said that Ricoh has shown very little interest in that. I know the first rumours were that they might be interested, but Simon clearly said that's not what they heard. As for me, a mount module could be a nice toy, but not really what I need. I like the camera as it is and I'm looking forward to what comes next !
Peter.
Tim
Active member
Derek, I fear there is no such thing.
Jorgen Udvang
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ddk
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they have a similar look and feel to the new GRD3, which is really great!
dhsimmonds
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Jorgen,
These are absolutely stunning! Compare these with the Leica X1 at many more bucks and a fixed lens into the bargain! A skilled photographer too...would like to see some of his images taken with the smaller sensor/ 24-70 combo.
Thanks for posting.....my D-Lux-4 might not be around for much longer!
These are absolutely stunning! Compare these with the Leica X1 at many more bucks and a fixed lens into the bargain! A skilled photographer too...would like to see some of his images taken with the smaller sensor/ 24-70 combo.
Thanks for posting.....my D-Lux-4 might not be around for much longer!
Will
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Someone has posted some test images on Flickr. They look pretty bad for some reason. Looking at her other images her style does seem to be to over expose a bit so maybe it is because of that? There is no EXIF data on them though so I'm not convinced that they are genuine.
http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=gxr&w=26809685@N04
http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=gxr&w=26809685@N04
pollobarca
New member
I think she will get used to the camera.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nakisuke/4105380567/
is the last one.
Some more here, this lady seems to have a bit more control on the camera
http://www.flickr.com/photos/eries/
Some units that look interesting including " Fiber scope unit" . Professional uses of this system will
be what makes it work money wise. Good news for the photographer.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mawari/4105516966/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nakisuke/4105380567/
is the last one.
Some more here, this lady seems to have a bit more control on the camera
http://www.flickr.com/photos/eries/
Some units that look interesting including " Fiber scope unit" . Professional uses of this system will
be what makes it work money wise. Good news for the photographer.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mawari/4105516966/
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One thing this demonstrates is the importance of marketing. If these were the first available images, the GRX would be getting a rough ride here. The first images from the X1 from dpreview, with blown highlights and one example of bad bokeh, caused the camera to get dissed to oblivion. I imagine the perception of the X1 would be quite different if leica published some images first, or if the first exposure was via sein reid or luminous landscape rather than dpreview.
I think you can make a judgment form these technically bad images, if you manage to concentrate no the properly exposed area, take in they are jpegs etc. (though this can be difficult).
I think you can make a judgment form these technically bad images, if you manage to concentrate no the properly exposed area, take in they are jpegs etc. (though this can be difficult).