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From what I'm seeing now the A77 is as noisy as the A900 too. However, I don't think it's time to come to any firm conclusions about this - there is (according to rumour) a version 2 of the firmware coming out in early November to deal with this - something about upgrading the processor before shipping, but not the firmware to match it.
Jono: Thanks. I'm enjoying it so far (i'd enjoy it more, but work keeps getting in the way!). I swore off DSLR's, but it was right in front of me in a box at the camera store. I was helpless.
Well - that's my rationale exactly - and if we've both got to the same place then it must be rightJono: Thanks. I'm enjoying it so far (i'd enjoy it more, but work keeps getting in the way!). I swore off DSLR's, but it was right in front of me in a box at the camera store. I was helpless.
My current rationale: 1. M9 and M7 use M-mount lenses, 2. Nex 5N and 7 can use M-mount lenses and A-mount lenses, 3. A77 uses A-Mount lenses. It's almost one camera 'system'! :ROTFL:
Well, I think they're noisy as well, but I don't think it's your inexperience, I also found it noise when converting to DNG for use in Aperture - I'm hoping it'll improve with a firmware upgrade, and I also suspect the Adobe conversion (which was presumably done WRT the first version of the firmware). We shall see. Still, the 5n is so good in low light that it just refines the different roles for the cameras even moreI'm an LR3 guy, so best of luck with Aperture support. I'll, also, let you know if there's anything interesting in the manual.
BTW: I did notice a fair bit of noise in the ISO 1600 images that i shot last night. At the moment, I'm attributing it to my inexperience with the camera.
Cheers, Matt
Jono: Thanks.'Cor . . . I hope you didn't drink any of that coloured stuff! (nice shot though)
Well - that's my rationale exactly - and if we've both got to the same place then it must be right
Well, I think they're noisy as well, but I don't think it's your inexperience, I also found it noise when converting to DNG for use in Aperture - I'm hoping it'll improve with a firmware upgrade, and I also suspect the Adobe conversion (which was presumably done WRT the first version of the firmware). We shall see. Still, the 5n is so good in low light that it just refines the different roles for the cameras even more
Incidentally - did you find the Hawks Helicoid?
all the best
Nope, didn't drink any of that. I convert into Adobe DNG and hopefully that can be improved. New firmware also might help. Noise isn't as noticeable on the 5N, even up to ISO 3200. It's the low light champ of the bunch, so far. Still haven't managed to find the Hawks Helicold. I'll keep looking.Jim: Very interesting point! I don't know enough about the technology. I haven't printed anything yet. I'll do so this weekend. The 'noise' is very uniform.Jono, I shot a landscape shot JPEG at iso 50 that had a huge amount of small detail and colors in the forest leaves. When opened in Aperture it was so intense and for lack of a better word "edgy" it was hard on my eyes to view in a fit to screen view. I would of bet this was noise but when exploded out to a full image view this edginess and intensity turned into incredible detail and IQ. When I printed it at a a4 size the image had excellent detail and IQ.
Now my Eagle shots were JPEGs using the 2x in camera tele converter ON. When views at fit to screen the detail was great as was the IQ. Could this noise issue many are referring to be a pixelation or pixel density issue instead. When the image size is reduced and binned I just don't see any noise issues at all and I forced myself yesterday to shoot these eagle at 1600 iso just to see if I could see any noise. I did not see any at all.
That's a great shot Jim - I must agree that ISO 1600 in decent light seems to be fine - I've done a couple of prints up to A2+ and the detail is excellent. I think that part of the issue is back to the hoary old chestnut that we all look at our images at 100% - but 100% of a 24mp image is not the same as 100% of a 16mp image!
great image and I really do like the color!
