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    Fun with the Zeiss 24mm 1.8

    Can't believe no one has started one of these yet so here we go!

    Just got mine and after reading somewhat tempered reactions to the lens, I have been nothing but pleased with it. Did some quick comparos to my C/Y Zeiss 25 and 28mm lenses (which are both excellent on NEX) and the new 24mm looks to excel over both.

    Quick note on these first images - they are cooked to my palate so if you see grain, vignetting, etc. it was the intent of the photographer. If you do not like my cooking, that's ok. What I look for in a lens is hard to define in words, as I like so many different types, but I know it when I see it and this lens has it in spades.

    Without further ado, let's get this party started...looking forward to seeing what everyone else has cooked up with this gem.


    All shot on the 5N: ISO 100 f/1.8 edited with Alien Exposure 3 and CS5








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    Re: Fun with the Zeiss 24mm 1.8

    Some camera porn. Close your eyes kids...


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    Re: Fun with the Zeiss 24mm 1.8

    Night shot test of the NEX-7 + Zeiss 24mm


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    Re: Fun with the Zeiss 24mm 1.8

    Just as soon as i receive mine, I'll join in :-) Looking good from your shots!

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    Re: Fun with the Zeiss 24mm 1.8

    Bibble Pro (my favorite alternative RAW converter) now supports the NEX-7 RAW files. They still need to add lenses to their database, but they are doing a pretty good job otherwise. A sample:


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    Noise and sharpness are managed very well in my opinion.
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    Re: Fun with the Zeiss 24mm 1.8

    first oportunity this morning to test the Zeiss 24mm F1.8.

    first a morning macro



    Second a shot taken wide open at F1.8 with a small full size crop near the edge of the frame to illustrate edge sharpness wide open.



    Safe to say it blows the kit lens into the weeds. Simply another league. Sharper wide open than the Kit lens is at optimum aperture.

    There is some fairly mild CA on backlit subjects, but easily corrected in Camera Raw.

    Im giving the Kit lens to my wife to play with, or maybe to the dog to chew...
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    Re: Fun with the Zeiss 24mm 1.8

    Glad yours made it home QB. Quick word of warning to all Zeiss 24mm f/1.8 Sonnar-E owners: When mounting/dismounting the lens hood, make sure you grasp it from the petals and not the base ring (this lens hood is composed of two pieces). Mine came apart while I was dismounting it. I did not use any excessive force (I did not have a "kung fu grip" episode) and the base ring (which has the logo) unglued itself. Oddly, the petal assembly is the part that attaches to the lens and the base ring just makes it look nice and has all of the marks. I have contacted my dealer to see if Sony will replace it. I'm surprised that this happened, but I am more surprised that Sony used a two-piece design when a single piece design would be less expensive and more durable.
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    Re: Fun with the Zeiss 24mm 1.8

    One from last night's reception at the Lowe Art Museum:


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    Re: Fun with the Zeiss 24mm 1.8

    Nice low light work, Carlos. I assume you did not use auto exposure?

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    Re: Fun with the Zeiss 24mm 1.8

    Alex (eldest son) musing return to uni between pints. F/2, 1/60 sec, auto ISO

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    Re: Fun with the Zeiss 24mm 1.8

    Bright cold day today. This was taken with the 24mm Zeiss on the Nex-7after a pub lunch in Finchingfield today.

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    Re: Fun with the Zeiss 24mm 1.8

    Quote Originally Posted by Quentin_Bargate View Post
    Nice low light work, Carlos. I assume you did not use auto exposure?

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    Actually Quentin, I used the Handheld Night Shot mode as a test. Worked surprisingly well.
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    Re: Fun with the Zeiss 24mm 1.8

    I've posted on DPI before about my love for the Distagon 28mm adapted to the NEX so I was anxious to pit that lens against the new 24mm. I will post some comparisons later but my initial deduction is that the lenses perform almost exactly alike. Same rendering, DOF, Bokeh, sharpness - it is all nearly identical. So it would seem that while labeled a Sonnar, it behaves more like the Distagon of the C/Y era.

    Also, compared it to my Canon 35mm L at 1.8 and the Canon clearly has a creamier, more shallow rendering that appeals to me.

    So I would say that this is a world class lens if you enjoy the look of the Distagon but don't expect it to act like a Full Frame fast 35mm.

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    Re: Fun with the Zeiss 24mm 1.8

    Here are the samples from my Zeiss Sonnar 24mm vs. Zeiss Distagon 28mm shoot out. I'm not going to label them, feel free to guess which photo is from which lens. I also threw in one shot at f/1.8 - all others are at the Distagon's max aperture - f/2.8

    All images were shot RAW from the approximate same position, edited with the same adjustments - pretty amazing how alike the color and contrast is between these two...

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    Re: Fun with the Zeiss 24mm 1.8

    Its difficult to tell at that size what the relative performances of the two lenses are but yes they look similar, which presumably reflecs the common design background. You would not know they were different lenses. From my tests, I am impressed that the 28mm F1.8 is so sharp wide open.
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    Re: Fun with the Zeiss 24mm 1.8

    Quentin,

    The only reason you would need a larger image would be to ascertain sharpness and lens resolution. Everything else you can see here. And as you mentioned, the 24mm is very sharp, even wide open. When pixel peeping it looks to be a hair sharper than the 28mm (which is known to be exceedingly sharp) and I would guess can resolve equally well.

    What pleases me the most about this lens is that, while relatively expensive, you truly do get the Zeiss look and not something more generic with less character or performance.

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    I'm guessing the second one in each set is the Distagon. All the samples in this thread look great and are much appreciated. I think the lens is great and someday hope to own one.

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    Hey Amin! I'm not sure myself, will need to go back and look at the originals - they are that close.

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    The second one in each set is from the E-Sonnar. Very clear difference, even at this picture size.

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    Keep em' coming...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    The second one in each set is from the E-Sonnar. Very clear difference, even at this picture size.
    You are correct on one of the images, but not so sure about the other two

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    Its the sort of lens you could put on the camera and never get around to changing.
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    Re: Fun with the Zeiss 24mm 1.8

    Indeed Quentin.

    Got mine last week and though I'm in FF-speak more of a 75 mm guy, this lens has not come off my NEX 7 ever since it arrived.

    Just playing around for now, getting to know both the camera and the 24 ZE.

    Here's a view on the village we live these days, 1/500, f5,6 100 ISO.

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    Went on a little walkabout today with my son (he was working on his photography homework - huzzah!)


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    Re: Fun with the Zeiss 24mm 1.8

    My guess:
    1 Contax 28
    2 ZA 24

    3 ZA 24
    4 Contax 28

    5 Contax 28
    6 ZA 24

    7 ZA 24

    The giveaways are the smoother bokeh of the ZA 24 and the slightly wider angle / more perspective distortion. The shots with the less smooth bokeh remind me of my Contax 28/2.8 anyway. Also, shot #6 shows more CA than #5, which points in the direction of the ZA 24.

    Quote Originally Posted by Quentin_Bargate View Post
    Safe to say it blows the kit lens into the weeds. Simply another league. Sharper wide open than the Kit lens is at optimum aperture.
    Sounds like you have a bad copy of the kit lens, or a stellar copy of the ZA 24. See this comparison with the kit lens: http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1076242

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quentin_Bargate View Post
    Safe to say it blows the kit lens into the weeds. Simply another league. Sharper wide open than the Kit lens is at optimum aperture.
    Sounds like you have a bad copy of the kit lens, or a stellar copy of the ZA 24. See this comparison with the kit lens: http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1076242

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    I did my own comparison and posted it on Fred Miranda as well. IMHO, there is nothing "wrong" with the ZA 24 except for too much CA for my taste, even though that can be cleared up in post, and it shines close up, but, when I compared it to other top-flight lenses, there just wasn't enough that was right about it, and I returned it; I was so disappointed that I even tried two copies, but to no avail. First Zeiss lens I tried and didn't buy.

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    Re: Fun with the Zeiss 24mm 1.8

    Well, I think it's a fab lens
    here are three from this morning





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    Lovely morning light shots, Jono.

    What I'm seeing from this lens looks great. It's the one bit of gear I'm actually lusting for. Trying to resist though.

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    Please keep posting to this thread! I don't part with $1k easily, so I need a bit more nudging .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amin View Post
    Please keep posting to this thread! I don't part with $1k easily, so I need a bit more nudging .
    Hi Amin - working today, so not so much photography - Quentin has been posting some shots in the 'fun with nex7 thread'

    Do you have a 5n? or a 7?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    Do you have a 5n? or a 7?
    I traded in my 5N for a C3 and a couple hundred bucks. Love the little C3 .

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    For anyone interested in more info on the Zeiss 24 1.8

    http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1076242

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    Quote Originally Posted by philber View Post
    I did my own comparison and posted it on Fred Miranda as well. IMHO, there is nothing "wrong" with the ZA 24 except for too much CA for my taste, even though that can be cleared up in post, and it shines close up, but, when I compared it to other top-flight lenses, there just wasn't enough that was right about it, and I returned it; I was so disappointed that I even tried two copies, but to no avail. First Zeiss lens I tried and didn't buy.
    Shooting a little more with that lens I can confirm that when shooting in strong contrast ( a tree against sun) there will be quite a bit CA.
    So if someone is looking for a landscape lens for "heavy" light conditions there might be better lenses.
    For the prupose I use it (when there is not so much light) and for most "normal" conditions it seems to work very good though.

    I think its my fav. Nex lens - allready at f1.8 its nice and sharp, and I see it as an advantage to have AF, it also delivers smooth bokeh.
    I wish there would also be a 30mm or 35mm lens of such speed/quality.

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    Sorry for a newbie question... is strong CA the fault of the lens, or the sensor? I only ask because I get lots of CA from all lenses on my NEX5. I've tried: ZM50/1.5, CV35/1.2, DR 'Cron 50/2, and even the kit lenses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BenjaminJ View Post
    My guess:
    1 Contax 28
    2 ZA 24

    3 ZA 24
    4 Contax 28

    5 Contax 28
    6 ZA 24

    7 ZA 24

    The giveaways are the smoother bokeh of the ZA 24 and the slightly wider angle / more perspective distortion. The shots with the less smooth bokeh remind me of my Contax 28/2.8 anyway. Also, shot #6 shows more CA than #5, which points in the direction of the ZA 24.
    Ding Ding Ding, we have a winner. Those are correct.

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    A couple from our remodel, a few from lunch at an Austin favorite - Tacodeli, and one high contrast to get a feel for CA.

    The ZA definitely exhibits a healthy dose of CA but not enough to bother me at all.













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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    Well, I think it's a fab lens
    here are three from this morning
    Really like the second one Jono (w/shadow) very nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peterv View Post
    For anyone interested in more info on the Zeiss 24 1.8

    http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1076242
    Thanks, I read and responded to the thread
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    Re: Fun with the Zeiss 24mm 1.8

    From today with the Zeiss + NEX-7, Lee, who runs a new hand-crafted Pizza restaurant in Shoreditch



    And one of his delicious creations

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    Very nice Q - and you do it so well.
    The pizza looks wonderful - there's a pub near here that makes pizzas that look like that - and they're delicious.
    Lee on the other hand looks a little stressed . . . were you questioning the bill!

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    Re: Fun with the Zeiss 24mm 1.8

    Haha, thanks Jono. We were in a conversation about licensing law and other stuff. Interesting guy, great food.

    Same day, different place, a slightly weird thing in the corner of a shop. Spooky (I thought). Odd place, Shoreditch...

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    Re: Fun with the Zeiss 24mm 1.8

    I guess that Shoreditch has changed a lot since I was last there. Like the spooky doll.

    here are three simple shots from our early morning kitchen:











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    Re: Fun with the Zeiss 24mm 1.8

    Jono
    I can see you are lovin the Zeiss.
    You make it hard for me not to get. Although my preordered 7 has yet to arrive, so no hurry with the 24 i guess.
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    Re: Fun with the Zeiss 24mm 1.8

    Jono, your kitchen looks a bit like Shoreditch - which has changed a LOT over the last few years, coolest place in London (until the developers get their hands on it...) as well as a bit random. The Zeiss is pretty good as a stand-in macro lens, as your shots show very well.
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    Countertop Fabrication w/ NEX 5N






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