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    A few RX1R images processed from raw through AccuRaw Monochrome.





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    Couple RX1R monochromes from AccuRaw Monochrome shot today at marina.



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    Carl, the first one in the above post is just lovely!

    Me being a novice when it comes to PP (lack of effort I must say), may I ask what your general impression of the Accuraw output? Also how many pixels are getting out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    Carl, the first one in the above post is just lovely!

    Me being a novice when it comes to PP (lack of effort I must say), may I ask what your general impression of the Accuraw output? Also how many pixels are getting out?
    Thank you Vivek. I'm also a novice when it comes to monochrome processing. I just used the default monochrome preset and adjusted the ETTR slider to lighten/darken images as necessary. No other processing, other than cropping, in either AccuRaw or LR. I like the AccuRaw monochrome output and in particular the smooth tonality. The output size of exported tiff files from AccuRaw monochrome is 6024x4024 pixels for the RX1R.
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    So I've been thinking: If the .75X (21mm) wide-angle converter for the 28mm/f2 FE lens can be modified to mount onto the RX1's lens and work well enough to be useful, then so should the matching .57X fisheye converter.

    That said, I'm not sure I have much reason to ever use a fisheye lens, although the effective 20mm focal length would certainly come in handy at times and it does offer a novel look.

    Hmm....

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    Re: Fun with the RX-1

    Quote Originally Posted by scho View Post
    Thank you Vivek. I'm also a novice when it comes to monochrome processing. I just used the default monochrome preset and adjusted the ETTR slider to lighten/darken images as necessary. No other processing, other than cropping, in either AccuRaw or LR. I like the AccuRaw monochrome output and in particular the smooth tonality. The output size of exported tiff files from AccuRaw monochrome is 6024x4024 pixels for the RX1R.
    Thank you, Carl. I thought I read Sandy posting somewhere that you can read individual pixels. => 4x pixel output.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    Thank you, Carl. I thought I read Sandy posting somewhere that you can read individual pixels. => 4x pixel output.
    How would "4x pixel output" even be possible? Demosaicing a file doesn't change the number of pixels it contains, it merely changes their RGB values by mathematically recreating the color components that weren't sampled at each sensel.

    FWIW, Raw Therapee, as well as several other RAW processing programs, also allows one to process RAW files without demosaicing them, which has caused me to start thinking about having my "broken" RX1 modified for monochrome-only use. While I'm not wild about losing the ability to control tonality post-exposure by tweaking the color channels for each image during the conversion to B&W, the potential increase in resolution has a strong appeal for me given the type of photography I like to do and since the camera isn't worth much in its present state, why not try it?

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    Yes, I am confused about it. There was an example put out by Sandy (Accuraw creator) that showed 400% crop from a regular (bayer) camera vs 100% crop from a debayered one. Hence the query.

    I hope you find a solution for your RX1. You should keep in mind that the sensor could be completely destroyed during the monochrome conversion and be prepared to take that risk. Not for everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    Yes, I am confused about it. There was an example put out by Sandy (Accuraw creator) that showed 400% crop from a regular (bayer) camera vs 100% crop from a debayered one. Hence the query.
    Ahh ... I'm an infrequent visitor here, so your reference was lost on me. <sigh>

    I hope you find a solution for your RX1. You should keep in mind that the sensor could be completely destroyed during the monochrome conversion and be prepared to take that risk. Not for everyone.
    Yes, I'm aware of this risk, but given that Sony's repair facility has quoted a price of US$1,200 to repair this particular RX1 to proper working order, its present value is a few hundred dollars at best, which is marginally within my risk tolerance level. I was really only keeping it as a potential parts camera for my other RX1, but then I discovered I could zone-focus it using the macro ring and began using it for both street and tripod-based photography, where its (broken) autofocus capability wasn't needed (and despite focusing it via the macro ring, presumably a less than optimal way of doing so considering it has a floating element, it actually captures slightly sharper photos than my "good" RX1.) We shall see...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    Yes, I am confused about it. There was an example put out by Sandy (Accuraw creator) that showed 400% crop from a regular (bayer) camera vs 100% crop from a debayered one. Hence the query.

    I hope you find a solution for your RX1. You should keep in mind that the sensor could be completely destroyed during the monochrome conversion and be prepared to take that risk. Not for everyone.
    AccuRaw Monochrome has special processing modes for cameras with IR modified sensors or sensors with CFA removed, but I haven't found anything other than a 400% preview mode that would allow changing image output resolution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Audii-Dudii View Post
    Ahh ... I'm an infrequent visitor here, so your reference was lost on me. <sigh>


    Yes, I'm aware of this risk, but given that Sony's repair facility has quoted a price of US$1,200 to repair this particular RX1 to proper working order, its present value is a few hundred dollars at best, which is marginally within my risk tolerance level. I was really only keeping it as a potential parts camera for my other RX1, but then I discovered I could zone-focus it using the macro ring and began using it for both street and tripod-based photography, where its (broken) autofocus capability wasn't needed (and despite focusing it via the macro ring, presumably a less than optimal way of doing so considering it has a floating element, it actually captures slightly sharper photos than my "good" RX1.) We shall see...
    Carl has answered the first part. Sorry for the confusion.

    That is a clever use of the broken RX1.

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    More fun with the RX-1.





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    Jerome - very Miksang ...
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    A few RX1R shots taken along the waterfront trail.






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    A couple while out wandering around.
    First is from the Red Cliffs National Conservation area.
    2nd from Confluence Park area.
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    A shot with the RX1R in the foyer of Esperanza mansion on Keuka Lake near Branchport, NY.

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    A few shots from a place called Water Canyon.
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    A little walk in the Pine Valley mountains.
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    Taylor Creek Zion NP on an overcast day.
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    A few from a recent tour in the maritimes with the RX1R.









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    A few from a recent tour in the maritimes with the RX1R.









    Great shots Scho. Thanks for sharing them.
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    A few from a recent tour in the maritimes with the RX1R.
    Two more from PEI.

    Cavendish Beach




    Green shutters on the "Ann of Green Gables" house near Cavendish.

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    A quick snap of one of the granddaughters.

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    A couple of snaps with the RX1R on a walk through an artsy neighborhood.



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    Just returned from a vacation with the Mrs. to Slovenia. The little RX1r did not disappoint. Did find that I've some dust on the sensor, will have to figure out if this is something under my warranty or not (as I bought used). Some of these are 2-4 shot stitched photos,

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    Here are some recent photos from my "85258" project, which involves me photographing my neighborhood within walking distance of my house late at night / early in the morning. All four photos were taken using a Sony SEL075UWC wide-angle converter modified to mount onto the RX1's lens bayonet:









    Some very minor cropping was done to the first and fourth photos during post-processing to tidy up the compositions. The wide-angle converter does add some additional distortion, but I am able to clean it up sufficiently for my purposes using the tools in RAW Therapee when I process the RX1's RAW files.
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    And here are a few more taken with just the RX1 and no wide-angle converter:





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    Another shot taken with the RX1R on the north coast of PEI near Cavendish Beach.

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    Two more RX1R shots from Hopewell Rocks provincial park in New Brunswick.



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    I returned home from last night's outing around 1:00 am and took this photo, among others, while I was out, as part of my project of photographing around my neighborhood at night:



    While I was out and about, however, I found myself thinking about the Sigma DP-1 Merrill, with its 28mm (effective) lens and smaller sensor, which would let me photograph with shorter exposures without giving up any depth of field, etc., and as I finished copying the files from my SD card to my primary and backup hard drives, I decided why not? and ordered a used one from Adorama.

    However, when I awoke later in the morning, I had an email from them saying my credit card had been declined due to an incorrect expiration date and/or security code. And sure enough, I had fat-fingered the security code while entering my info. But as I started to enter it again, only correctly this time, I had a change of heart and decided to cancel my order, because I really am quite happy overall with the performance of my pair of RX1s.

    G.A.S. is a sneaky lil bastard and it can -- and will! -- catch you out whenever you let your guard down and get sucked in by its sirens' song. It was a close call this time, but fortunately, I managed to stay the course... <phew!>
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    [QUOTE=jkjod;658967]Just returned from a vacation with the Mrs. to Slovenia. The little RX1r did not disappoint. Did find that I've some dust on the sensor, will have to figure out if this is something under my warranty or not (as I bought used). Some of these are 2-4 shot stitched photos,

    I got also dust on my sensor after only about 800 shots (RX1R), and send it to repair, but Sony answered, that they would not clean it.

    Very sorry, even the camera is very good: Will never buy Sony again, and Lloyd Chambers has also written about the VERY poor customer help from Sony.

    It destroys the fun with the camera, that you have to remove dust at every picture, and as everybody know, You can not clean it yourself from the camera, as You can
    with a DSLR

    Never Sony again.

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    I hope to have my hands on a RX1r new before the end of the year. After lot of study I do not think I need an another DSLR than my D700 and I do not think I should invest into more lenses.

    The thing is 37MP is too much for me, even more today than few years ago, when 37MP was introduced. So I need a very good 24MP camera and miss 35mm focal. Very good 24 MP camera like D700 do not exist. Some might say D750 but no, thank you.

    The RX1r is, as the date of today, the most finished camera Sony ever crafted. It is, built wise, superior to any A7 camera to date even A7r2d2.

    I've got dust on sensor with PS camera before, like the DP series. Every time, after a while, the dust go off. This is my experience and it is related to lens breathing. My advice is to put immediately a filter. My dust spot appeared only after filter removal for whatever reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulyss Bowman View Post
    I hope to have my hands on a RX1r new before the end of the year. After lot of study I do not think I need an another DSLR than my D700 and I do not think I should invest into more lenses.

    The thing is 37MP is too much for me, even more today than few years ago, when 37MP was introduced. So I need a very good 24MP camera and miss 35mm focal. Very good 24 MP camera like D700 do not exist. Some might say D750 but no, thank you.

    The RX1r is, as the date of today, the most finished camera Sony ever crafted. It is, built wise, superior to any A7 camera to date even A7r2d2.

    I've got dust on sensor with PS camera before, like the DP series. Every time, after a while, the dust go off. This is my experience and it is related to lens breathing. My advice is to put immediately a filter. My dust spot appeared only after filter removal for whatever reason.
    Thanks, interesting, what filter do you recommend = Normally a filter degrade the sharpness ? (I do not care, what it cost, just want the very best)

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    Thanks, interesting, what filter do you recommend = Normally a filter degrade the sharpness ? (I do not care, what it cost, just want the very best)
    That's maybe true on some cameras ?? I did the "sharpnessloss" test on my DP3 Merrill with a Heliopan simple protective filter (or maybe it was UV) : No loss at pixel level. So I think you can just go with a good quality filter. If you want the best and your in the US go Breakthrough Photography filters.

    I would push even further, if you have access to Breakthrough Photography filters, I would even take a ND4 or(and) ND6 in + of protective filter since the camera is 1/2000s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulyss Bowman View Post
    I hope to have my hands on a RX1r new before the end of the year. After lot of study I do not think I need an another DSLR than my D700 and I do not think I should invest into more lenses.

    The thing is 37MP is too much for me, even more today than few years ago, when 37MP was introduced. So I need a very good 24MP camera and miss 35mm focal. Very good 24 MP camera like D700 do not exist. Some might say D750 but no, thank you.

    The RX1r is, as the date of today, the most finished camera Sony ever crafted. It is, built wise, superior to any A7 camera to date even A7r2d2.

    I've got dust on sensor with PS camera before, like the DP series. Every time, after a while, the dust go off. This is my experience and it is related to lens breathing. My advice is to put immediately a filter. My dust spot appeared only after filter removal for whatever reason.
    I absolutely love my Rx1R. It makes me think of what a DP Merrill could have been properly engineered and refined.

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    Thanks, interesting, what filter do you recommend = Normally a filter degrade the sharpness ? (I do not care, what it cost, just want the very best)
    Either a Heliopan or B and W.
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    Thanks to Hulyss and Ute.

    No...... in Denmark (Europe), but I will certainly find it.

    By the way: I send the DP2M back because of the same (I have all 3 Merrills), and the new DP2M does not have the problem (at least untill now but perhaps I could have solved it in this way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyndel View Post
    Thanks to Hulyss and Ute.

    No...... in Denmark (Europe), but I will certainly find it.

    By the way: I send the DP2M back because of the same (I have all 3 Merrills), and the new DP2M does not have the problem (at least untill now but perhaps I could have solved it in this way.

    Supplement: I was too fast, when I just wrote "sharpness", I more often see flare/ghosting when sun or some light is in the frame, and You use filter, but I will try Heliopan or B & W?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulyss Bowman View Post
    I've got dust on sensor with PS camera before, like the DP series. Every time, after a while, the dust go off. This is my experience and it is related to lens breathing. My advice is to put immediately a filter. My dust spot appeared only after filter removal for whatever reason.
    I find this interesting. I guess I've been lucky -- knock wood! -- because I live in central Arizona, where we have dust storms regularly during the monsoon season, so there is lots and lots of dust in the air (which is hardly a surprise, what with this area being a desert and all), yet I can't recall the last time I had a problem with dust infiltrating any of my cameras or lenses.

    Of course, I've only been using my RX1s for approx. six months now, so who knows?

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    RX1R, manual mode, f/11, 1/250, auto ISO (500), 10 shots in fast continuous mode. Generated a 97 MP composite image in PhotoAcute3 and then re-sampled to 40 MP.

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