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    Now I remember, I didn't have a hood with me and I tryed to get rid of a streetlight reflection in the lens with my hand but it turned out like this. The lens is lovely as is.
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    " The Creek II "

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    I like it (not sure why, but the like button doens't seem to work for me to-day).
    at least so it will be visible a little longer at the top of the other page.

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    View over Dieppe after the rain.

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    Thank you Annna T,
    I have the same undescript feeling about this image. I think it is the light just after the rain and the brown tones which make it work.

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    Just another size comparison image of the Sony/Zeiss 35mm FE F1.4 Distagon against some other Sony lenses with the Voigtlander 35mm F1.2 Mk2 Nokton thrown into the mix (Taken with and without hoods).
    Size and weight seems to be the main two stumbling blocks for this particular lens (other than price and fly-by-wire focusing that is)...I have absolutely no real grumbles personally with the weight, balance and size, I expect the handling would be further improved with the grip of the A7II having tried Ron’s camera with a similar size and weight lens. (Note. The 16-35mm is very slightly extended in length due to the fact that I accidentally knocked it to 24mm when I was removing the hood between shots...silly me!)
    I did also weigh this lens against the other lenses shown. (Note. Not sure if my kitchen scales are deadly accurate but it should hopefully give you some idea)
    All weights are inclusive of the manufacturer’s hood, front and rear lens caps and the Voigtlander adapter where shown. (Note. The Novaflex adapter is very slightly lighter, while the Voigtlander close up adapter is slightly heavier than the standard Voigtlander adapter shown)

    Cosina/Voigtlander 35mm F1.2 Mk2 Nokton......... 586g
    Sony/Zeiss 55mm F1.8 FE Sonnar....................... 350g
    Sony/Zeiss 16-35mm F4 FE Vario-Tessar............ 594g
    Sony/Zeiss 35mm F1.4 FE Distagon.................... 714g
    Sony G 70-200mm F4 FE.................................. 960g







    On a personal note I am extremely happy with these 4 Sony lenses...I would like to add either the 85mm Batis or the 90mm G Macro (Depending on forthcoming reviews).
    My walk around kit would then be the 16-35mm Vario-Tessar, 35mm Distagon, 55mm Sonnar and an 85/90mm (Leaving the 70-200mm close by in the back of the car for the few times when it was required)
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    Thank you Barry!
    Besides AF, what lens would be better IMO the VC 35/1.2 or the Fe 35/1.4?
    I don't want to put you up with a (boring) lens test, but just out of your experience after you get to know the FE 35 better.
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    Nice comparison! I have the 16-35 + 55 as my walk-around combo. With a lot of folks trading out their 35/2.8 for the f1.4 or 28/2, I'm seriously tempted to pick up the little prime to add to my collection. The 55mm is an awesome 1-lens solution... but sometimes I might like something a bit more compact.

    Oh, wait this is an image thread? I'll share this one that surprised me with a lot of favs on flickr:

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    " Time problem "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michiel Schierbeek View Post
    Thank you Barry!
    Besides AF, what lens would be better IMO the VC 35/1.2 or the Fe 35/1.4?
    I don't want to put you up with a (boring) lens test, but just out of your experience after you get to know the FE 35 better.

    Hi Michiel, first of all thanks for the "THANK" and also ggibson (excellent image BTW)...Very most appreciated.

    Well I have only owned the lens just 24 hours, so some may say that I just haven't spent long enough time with it to come up with any worthwhile decisive conclusion, that maybe I'm just overly excited with my new purchase (Which in truth I am)...Well I have done my testing now (I won't be uploading it here for all to see as I did the tests selfishly for myself) as far as "I'm concerned" the short answer without any hesitation is that the Distagon is going to be a longtime resident here in Cornwall as far as I can foresee ...I was going to reveal this after I sold the CV 35mm on ebay, it's a bit late now you have forced my hand...no doubt CV35 prices will plummet
    Joking aside the CV35 f1.2 has it's own particular signature rendering that I quite like, similar to an old classic styled lens a bit low in contrast WO for my own particular taste, as I have said before.
    Plenty of fans out there and rightly so but I freely admit I personally never really fell in love with it like others have done before me.
    The Distagon IMO is in a different league altogether a much more up to date designed lens with what looks like almost micro-contrast going on when comparing it against the CV35 images WO i.e. Better resolving of fine detail in highlights and shadows, probably due to the Zeiss glass with T* coating and the sun being out yesterday evening

    Distagon praises are...

    Colour, colour, colour...Did I mention colour, the colours are just Zeiss wonderful..3D Pop fantastic!...(I'm now starting to sound like Steve Huff...But I find myself agreeing with him on this occasion)...The other 3 Sony lenses are not as good as the Distagon for colour, although I need to do a proper test to prove this to myself once the sun is back out.
    It resolves brilliantly in the centre straight from F1.4 (3/4 of the frame is good to go)...Sharpness/Resolution in the centre gets better radiating out from the centre as you stop down similar to how the Leica 50mm Asph S'Lux does it IMHO.
    It was the rendering of the Distagon that instantly sold itself to me as opposed to the probable more sensible choice of going with the lighter, smaller and possibly even sharper Loxia 35mm (I went with my heart and not my head I suppose with no regrets whatsoever...This is the look that I was after
    I had previously owned the ZM 35mm Biogon super sharp (also Leica M 35mm pre asph Lux and pre asph Cron) so I was pretty familiar with it's good and bad points although I liked the lens a lot except for the corners WO on FF and was less happy than most it seems with the OoF rendering of the ZM 35mm Biogon and 35mm Loxia Biogon (on APS-C it would have been a keeper for sure)...Although Charlie (uhoh7) has already proven to me on FM looking at his work that the ZM 35mm Biogon is still a great lens on a modded A7 series camera...The mod makes the difference it seems.
    The Distagon corners are gorgeous WO soft not smeared and improve in resolution as you close down...I like creamy, dreamy OoF and it's a perfect 10 out of 10 for me, not twitchy nervous in the least, it's the perfect accompaniment to the 55mm Sonnar rendering if that is what you like...I know I do.

    Low distortion

    Higher contrast WO than the CV 35mm (CV 35mm contrast improves dramatically on stopping down just one stop).
    Vignetting is present as you expect WO but not in your face and tidy's up nicely even at f1.4 with no smearing at any focus distance points.

    Photographing a white board and I can just see some slight colour shift corners going on close up, although nothing that bothers me and I can't see it in my everyday outdoors photography.

    Exif data present...Weather sealed and dust proof if I remember correctly.

    No OSS but on a IBIS A7 series camera it's no big thingy anyway IMO, as I'm guessing IBIS will be present on the future A7RII/A9 cameras.

    AF...Which I know you are not that keen on is truly excellent fast and accurate...Even a die hard MF worker like yourself will be tempted to switch it on and maybe even leave it on if the situation warrants it!...Needs latest Firmware 1.2 to get the best from the 35mm Distagon according to Sony...Strangely I did notice a drop in my battery life, I don't think I imagined it, hard to say.

    No problem from the thick sensor stack (no double imaging going on out towards the corners) which the ZM 35mm Distagon is showing up on a non modded A7 series camera.

    The FE 35mm Distagon just like the Loxia shows that the 35mm end of the 16-35mm is not that great for landscape work...I would rather sensor crop at 28mm to achieve the 35mm AoV.


    35mm FE Distagon Negs...

    Size, weight, price and not dedicated MF like a Loxia, I suspect will always be a problem for many.
    Flare can still creep in even with a lenshood (not sure about your hands doing a better job ...Haven't seen any fireballs either yet
    CA can be noticeable depending on the scene...but can be dealt with and fades away quickly on stopping down.

    To conclude.
    I owe thanks to CharlesK, John, Jorge and Werner + Others here and also over at FM for help making my mind up...Great info and thanks for sharing guys.
    I think Charles summed it up perfectly earlier on another thread..."I think we are coming to point where side by side comparisons are not as relevant now. The FE 35/1.4 is an amazing lens"...It's all subjective and it's just a matter of personal taste what look you are after at the end of the day.

    Hope this helps Michiel, apologies for such a long answer Cheers Barry

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    Wow, I did not expect such a thorough review so soon! But that's you, thorough! Thanks a lot! Good for everyone to read. Looks like you are really happy with it and that will surely result in more great images.

    As you know I am a fan of the Zeiss look and I like my C/Y version a lot. This will probably be a bit/lot better and AF can come in handy sometimes BTW I don't mind big lenses except for streetshooting.
    There are now so many new lenses for the E mount I did not buy, that I don't know were to start. Probably none for the time being because, I have been building up a small collection of Pentax 645 lenses for a future purchase of the PentaxZ and my funds need a break to build up some fresh dough

    This helps for sure ! In draining, not only mine, but a lot of wallets around this forum.

    Your first impressions mini review/comparison is worth a new thread on this lens, I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michiel Schierbeek View Post
    Wow, I did not expect such a thorough review so soon! But that's you, thorough! Thanks a lot! Good for everyone to read. Looks like you are really happy with it and that will surely result in more great images.

    As you know I am a fan of the Zeiss look and I like my C/Y version a lot. This will probably be a bit/lot better and AF can come in handy sometimes BTW I don't mind big lenses except for streetshooting.
    There are now so many new lenses for the E mount I did not buy, that I don't know were to start. Probably none for the time being because, I have been building up a small collection of Pentax 645 lenses for a future purchase of the PentaxZ and my funds need a break to build up some fresh dough

    This helps for sure ! In draining, not only mine, but a lot of wallets around this forum.

    Your first impressions mini review/comparison is worth a new thread on this lens, I think.
    Yes very happy, many thanks Michiel...It would be interesting to see the C/Y 35mm Distagon reviewed with the FE version...You (And Chuck) may very well not be missing out on anything...It might be me

    Good luck with the Pentax 645...I for one will be sorry to see you spend most your time over there...I will have to pick on someone else now
    Do stay in touch with the Sony A7 thread.

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    Barry, you ought to get Sony to give you a sales commission! I've been flirting with the idea of getting the FE 35/1.4 Distagon for several weeks after reading various reviews and tests but have been endlessly prevaricating - until I read your opinion.

    Now I'm $1,700 poorer and waiting for the mail from Hong Kong.

    Interestingly, my kit is going to be very like yours. I have the FE 16-35 on my a7r, then either the FE 24-70 or the FE 55 on my a7II and the FE 70-200 in the bag. What has concerned me is that the FE 24-70 just can't match the FE 55, whereas it sounds from all the reports I've read, that the Distagon does. (I'll keep the 24-70 as walk-around lens when it's the only one I'm carrying but otherwise it'll stay in the closet.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Haines View Post
    Good luck with the Pentax 645...I for one will be sorry to see you spend most your time over there...I will have to pick on someone else now
    Do stay in touch with the Sony A7 thread.
    I don't intend to leave this thread nor am I going to sell my Sony stuff. I even might be buying the new Sony A9, or whatever sooner then the PentaxZ. That camera is merely for special projects.

    I probably can't wonder around the streets incognito with the Pentax swinging around my neck like I do with the Sony set up.
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    As long as you are around (in the country or even the continent), it is fine with me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Haines View Post
    Hi Michiel, first of all thanks for the "THANK" and also ggibson (excellent image BTW)...Very most appreciated.

    Well I have only owned the lens just 24 hours, so some may say that I just haven't spent long enough time with it to come up with any worthwhile decisive conclusion, that maybe I'm just overly excited with my new purchase (Which in truth I am)...Well I have done my testing now (I won't be uploading it here for all to see as I did the tests selfishly for myself) as far as "I'm concerned" the short answer without any hesitation is that the Distagon is going to be a longtime resident here in Cornwall as far as I can foresee ...I was going to reveal this after I sold the CV 35mm on ebay, it's a bit late now you have forced my hand...no doubt CV35 prices will plummet
    Joking aside the CV35 f1.2 has it's own particular signature rendering that I quite like, similar to an old classic styled lens a bit low in contrast WO for my own particular taste, as I have said before.
    Plenty of fans out there and rightly so but I freely admit I personally never really fell in love with it like others have done before me.
    The Distagon IMO is in a different league altogether a much more up to date designed lens with what looks like almost micro-contrast going on when comparing it against the CV35 images WO i.e. Better resolving of fine detail in highlights and shadows, probably due to the Zeiss glass with T* coating and the sun being out yesterday evening

    Distagon praises are...

    Colour, colour, colour...Did I mention colour, the colours are just Zeiss wonderful..3D Pop fantastic!...(I'm now starting to sound like Steve Huff...But I find myself agreeing with him on this occasion)...The other 3 Sony lenses are not as good as the Distagon for colour, although I need to do a proper test to prove this to myself once the sun is back out.
    It resolves brilliantly in the centre straight from F1.4 (3/4 of the frame is good to go)...Sharpness/Resolution in the centre gets better radiating out from the centre as you stop down similar to how the Leica 50mm Asph S'Lux does it IMHO.
    It was the rendering of the Distagon that instantly sold itself to me as opposed to the probable more sensible choice of going with the lighter, smaller and possibly even sharper Loxia 35mm (I went with my heart and not my head I suppose with no regrets whatsoever...This is the look that I was after
    I had previously owned the ZM 35mm Biogon super sharp (also Leica M 35mm pre asph Lux and pre asph Cron) so I was pretty familiar with it's good and bad points although I liked the lens a lot except for the corners WO on FF and was less happy than most it seems with the OoF rendering of the ZM 35mm Biogon and 35mm Loxia Biogon (on APS-C it would have been a keeper for sure)...Although Charlie (uhoh7) has already proven to me on FM looking at his work that the ZM 35mm Biogon is still a great lens on a modded A7 series camera...The mod makes the difference it seems.
    The Distagon corners are gorgeous WO soft not smeared and improve in resolution as you close down...I like creamy, dreamy OoF and it's a perfect 10 out of 10 for me, not twitchy nervous in the least, it's the perfect accompaniment to the 55mm Sonnar rendering if that is what you like...I know I do.

    Low distortion

    Higher contrast WO than the CV 35mm (CV 35mm contrast improves dramatically on stopping down just one stop).
    Vignetting is present as you expect WO but not in your face and tidy's up nicely even at f1.4 with no smearing at any focus distance points.

    Photographing a white board and I can just see some slight colour shift corners going on close up, although nothing that bothers me and I can't see it in my everyday outdoors photography.

    Exif data present...Weather sealed and dust proof if I remember correctly.

    No OSS but on a IBIS A7 series camera it's no big thingy anyway IMO, as I'm guessing IBIS will be present on the future A7RII/A9 cameras.

    AF...Which I know you are not that keen on is truly excellent fast and accurate...Even a die hard MF worker like yourself will be tempted to switch it on and maybe even leave it on if the situation warrants it!...Needs latest Firmware 1.2 to get the best from the 35mm Distagon according to Sony...Strangely I did notice a drop in my battery life, I don't think I imagined it, hard to say.

    No problem from the thick sensor stack (no double imaging going on out towards the corners) which the ZM 35mm Distagon is showing up on a non modded A7 series camera.

    The FE 35mm Distagon just like the Loxia shows that the 35mm end of the 16-35mm is not that great for landscape work...I would rather sensor crop at 28mm to achieve the 35mm AoV.


    35mm FE Distagon Negs...

    Size, weight, price and not dedicated MF like a Loxia, I suspect will always be a problem for many.
    Flare can still creep in even with a lenshood (not sure about your hands doing a better job ...Haven't seen any fireballs either yet
    CA can be noticeable depending on the scene...but can be dealt with and fades away quickly on stopping down.

    To conclude.
    I owe thanks to CharlesK, John, Jorge and Werner + Others here and also over at FM for help making my mind up...Great info and thanks for sharing guys.
    I think Charles summed it up perfectly earlier on another thread..."I think we are coming to point where side by side comparisons are not as relevant now. The FE 35/1.4 is an amazing lens"...It's all subjective and it's just a matter of personal taste what look you are after at the end of the day.

    Hope this helps Michiel, apologies for such a long answer Cheers Barry

    EDIT...Michiel...Apologies for uploading straight after your image...I was unaware you had uploaded while I was typing this out for you.
    Thanks for this. My lens came last Friday but I haven't had time to try it out yet because I've been away for work this week. I plan on mounting it some time soon as I will be back home tomorrow afternoon.
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    I will wait for that FE 28/2 alike FE 35/2. Just need a compact, affordable and decent performing 35mm prime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    I will wait for that FE 28/2 alike FE 35/2. Just need a compact, affordable and decent performing 35mm prime.
    Do you think that they will release another 35mm this soon with 3 already available? I'd think they will fill the other gaps and fill the other focal lengths with "options" first. There's still the Loxia though it's not really that affordable and the 35/2.8 is about as compact as I'd imagine any would realistically want/need... although it left me desiring so much more hence the 35 Distagon purchase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    I will wait for that FE 28/2 alike FE 35/2. Just need a compact, affordable and decent performing 35mm prime.
    Is the 35mm F2.8 not OK then ? DXO mark test results show that both lenses are offering very similar performances (only difference is one stop larger aperture) : the 28mm is a tad sharper in the corners than the 35mm, but nowhere near of the 55mm F1.8
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Caulfeild-Browne View Post
    Barry, you ought to get Sony to give you a sales commission! I've been flirting with the idea of getting the FE 35/1.4 Distagon for several weeks after reading various reviews and tests but have been endlessly prevaricating - until I read your opinion.

    Now I'm $1,700 poorer and waiting for the mail from Hong Kong.

    Interestingly, my kit is going to be very like yours. I have the FE 16-35 on my a7r, then either the FE 24-70 or the FE 55 on my a7II and the FE 70-200 in the bag. What has concerned me is that the FE 24-70 just can't match the FE 55, whereas it sounds from all the reports I've read, that the Distagon does. (I'll keep the 24-70 as walk-around lens when it's the only one I'm carrying but otherwise it'll stay in the closet.)

    So thank you (I think...)
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    Bill, You are most welcome...I always enjoy helping others to spend their money
    That's a good selection of Sony/Zeiss lenses you have yourself there, It just goes to show that great minds think alike
    The 24-70mm does make for a very nice single lens walkabout choice...Although it was all the reviews that have put me off getting one...To be honest I have never even tried one to see for myself.
    Regarding the 35mm FE Distagon lens, I gathered up as much info that I could as 35mm is my very favourite focal length. To be honest I was getting fed up keep chopping and changing all the time and I didn't particularly want to make yet another expensive mistake. What finally persuaded me were the excellent threads over on FM, which are well worth looking at. I had it down to just two lenses in the end either the ZM 35mm Distagon (with the A7R Mod) or the FE 35mm Distagon as I wanted a fast 35mm lens - I still favour 35mm and 50mm F1.4 Summilux lenses over F2.0 Summicron's as you gain that extra stop with a beautiful WO rendering, even if you do end up sacrificing a little bit of sharpness in return.
    I was in a similar situation I couldn't find anybody that had it in stock in the UK (not at a sensible price that is)...I purchased mine from the Netherlands (Photospecialist) and it arrived pretty quickly I'm glad to say.
    I really hope you don't regret your rather expensive purchase if my little write up finally ended up swaying you...Please do share your thoughts once you have tried it...Cheers Barry
    PS. I just recently noticed that DXOmark have the 35mm FE Distagon in 2nd place just behind the 55mm FE in the native Sony lenses (Although the 2 Loxia scores are not in yet)...The 28mm is no slouch either and looks to be a great buy for the money.

    http://www.dxomark.com/Reviews/Sony-...T-35mm-F2.8-ZA

    + The MTF charts of the 85mm Batus look to be as good as the 85mm OTUS.
    http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/wp-co...s_vs_batis.jpg
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    I probably can't wonder around the streets incognito with the Pentax swinging around my neck like I do with the Sony set up.


    That's great news Michiel...Sorry I obviously got "the wrong end of the stick" as I often do!
    I thought you were trying to raise money by selling off all your gear to the members here by lightening their wallets
    I used to own a Pentax 67 so I'm only to aware of the whiplash you get when taking it off your neck...Cheers Barry

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    Nice comparison! I have the 16-35 + 55 as my walk-around combo. With a lot of folks trading out their 35/2.8 for the f1.4 or 28/2, I'm seriously tempted to pick up the little prime to add to my collection. The 55mm is an awesome 1-lens solution... but sometimes I might like something a bit more compact.

    Graham, same here those 2 lenses (16-35mm + 55mm) make for a great versatile combination..The 28mm looks to be an excellent choice for something a bit more compact...Good luck on whatever you decide upon...Cheers Barry
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    Thanks for this. My lens came last Friday but I haven't had time to try it out yet because I've been away for work this week. I plan on mounting it some time soon as I will be back home tomorrow afternoon.


    You're most welcome Tre + Congrats on your new lens

    I bet you are itching to try it out
    Will look forward to your findings once you have had a chance to play with it, especially as we have shared the same taste in lenses over the years...Cheers Barry
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    Barry - great set of information and size comparisons.

    Do you own the 24-70? Is the 16-35 of the same size and weight? Any chance of a comparison photo?

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    I do not care what Dox or SAR say. If Sony do not come with a line of F2 primes, it is money saved for me. The 3rd party options are fine for those who need them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Annna T View Post
    Is the 35mm F2.8 not OK then ? DXO mark test results show that both lenses are offering very similar performances (only difference is one stop larger aperture) : the 28mm is a tad sharper in the corners than the 28mm, but nowhere near of the 55mm F1.8
    Quote Originally Posted by HiredArm View Post
    Do you think that they will release another 35mm this soon with 3 already available? I'd think they will fill the other gaps and fill the other focal lengths with "options" first. There's still the Loxia though it's not really that affordable and the 35/2.8 is about as compact as I'd imagine any would realistically want/need... although it left me desiring so much more hence the 35 Distagon purchase.
    BTW, the 55/1.8 does not look that bad now. If the future body will AF as fast as the A7s in low light, I may even consider buying one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biglouis View Post
    Barry - great set of information and size comparisons.

    Do you own the 24-70? Is the 16-35 of the same size and weight? Any chance of a comparison photo?

    Just asking!

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    Just checked at DPReview comparison of these two lenses...It may help you get an idea...Cheers Barry

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    Barry - great set of information and size comparisons.

    Do you own the 24-70? Is the 16-35 of the same size and weight? Any chance of a comparison photo?

    Just asking!

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    Quote Originally Posted by biglouis View Post
    Barry - great set of information and size comparisons.

    Do you own the 24-70? Is the 16-35 of the same size and weight? Any chance of a comparison photo?

    Just asking!

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    The 16-35mm is heavier and bigger than the 24-70mm. My copy of the 24-70mm is better than that of the 16-35mm up from 24mm. Both of these zooms are sharper and better at the short end than at the long end.
    If you look at the specs the difference doesn't seem important, but in reality I find the 16-35mm quite bigger :
    Weight : 518 /426 gr
    Diameter : 78 /73 mm (max)
    Filter : 72 / 67 mm
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    I agree. I owned the 24-70 for about 6 weeks before I got rid of it. It was not horrible but I don't think it was great for the price they're asking. If you do a lot of daytime photography then I think it would be a better value to that type of user. I don't do too much of that and I reinforced my preference for primes in the middle and to let the zooms do the really wide or really long shots. If it were a $6-800 lens I would've kept it but once you get above $1K I expect a lens to not have any serious caveats for my uses so it in effect got voted out the camera bag.

    I think a good copy of the kit lens gives performance that isn't too far behind so if I were buying a A7II I'd add the kit zoom for a extra $2-300 depending on where you buy. Just my opinion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    BTW, the 55/1.8 does not look that bad now. If the future body will AF as fast as the A7s in low light, I may even consider buying one.
    I think the 55FE would make a great "natural pair" with your 28FE for a smallish walk around kit. Just my opinion though and that was my intention before the Batis announcements. I've since bought the 35 Distagon as you know and wil await the 25/85 Batis to add to my kit.

    I don't know if you tried it on the A7s but all the lenses I tried (35FE, 55FE, 24-70, and 70-200) locked on pretty quickly and accurately in lowlight conditions. I have not tried the 55FE on the A7s since the lens update and I don't know if it'll improve AF performance even further. Might be worth looking into though if that's a concern of yours.
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    so some Indian Chennai, Marina Bech - 7r 16-35 f/4 - a blackbird, a ice wagon and a boy... and sometimes you get this

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    My back garden. Sony A7R, CV21/1.8 Ultron - HDR merge in LR6 then post-processing in Color Effex.

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    A few 2-3 shot panos with the A7r+Cambo Actus+Rodenstock 55mm APO-Grandagon taken at the Cornell Arboretum ponds on a glorius spring afternoon (finally!). Merging was done in LRcc using the new Photomerge function (no longer need to export tiffs to PS or Pano software).





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    I agree. I owned the 24-70 for about 6 weeks before I got rid of it. It was not horrible but I don't think it was great for the price they're asking. If you do a lot of daytime photography then I think it would be a better value to that type of user. I don't do too much of that and I reinforced my preference for primes in the middle and to let the zooms do the really wide or really long shots. If it were a $6-800 lens I would've kept it but once you get above $1K I expect a lens to not have any serious caveats for my uses so it in effect got voted out the camera bag.

    I think a good copy of the kit lens gives performance that isn't too far behind so if I were buying a A7II I'd add the kit zoom for a extra $2-300 depending on where you buy. Just my opinion
    I'm keeping my FE 24-70 for casual occasions when I don't need the best possible quality. The problem is that I compared it with the FE 55 at 55 mm and the difference in file quality was rather pronounced! (As you'd expect comparing a zoom with a prime.)

    It is actually a good performer at 35 mm, better than the 16-35 at that focal length, but judging by the reviews I've read (and Barry's enthusiasm!) I think there will be a marked difference with the FE 35 1.4 Distagon. If that lens performs anything like the FE 55 I'll be very happy indeed.

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    a7r | Zeiss 2/35 ZF.2

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    Barry thank you very much for the kind words

    I agree the FE 35/1.4 is a superb lens. Yes it is larger than I would like, but it is now one of the first lenses I take to go.

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    Barry thank you very much for the kind words

    I agree the FE 35/1.4 is a superb lens. Yes it is larger than I would like, but it is now one of the first lenses I take to go.

    Shots yesterday from my wife's birthday.
    A7II and FE 35/1.4
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    I think it is I that owe you and the guys over at FM a big thanks for all you're excellent work at looking at the various options of 35mm choices with the A7 series cameras.
    I loved my old M 35mm non-asph Lux and regretted selling it for the Cron then the ZM Biogon and more recently the Nokton...It's the Distagon that has put me back on track again I feel.
    I'm not bothered by the weight just my only gripe is the size...You can't have everything it seems
    Excellent pictures and belated Happy Birthday to your dear wife...Cheers Barry
    PS. I have to ask did the A7R mod improve the IQ even further with this lens?
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    I think it is I that owe you and the guys over at FM a big thanks for all you're excellent work at looking at the various options of 35mm choices with the A7 series cameras.
    I loved my old M 35mm non-asph Lux and regretted selling it for the Cron then the ZM Biogon and more recently the Nokton...It's the Distagon that has put me back on track again I feel.
    I'm not bothered by the weight just my only gripe is the size...You can't have everything it seems
    Excellent pictures and belated Happy Birthday to your dear wife...Cheers Barry
    PS. I have to ask did the A7R mod improve the IQ even further with this lens?
    Thank you My wife appreciates the kind wishes!

    I have tried the FE 35/1.4 with my A7r Mod, and it performs extremely well. In the end it comes down to functionality and ease of use, and I now love the A7II and FE 35/1.4. For low light, I am often using shutter speeds of 1/10sec. I have pre-ordered my A7rII from my local sources in Australia

    I find the MF dampened and improved and having the aperature ring on the lens is just wonderful. The best of MF and AF IMO!
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    Thanks again Charles
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Caulfeild-Browne View Post
    I'm keeping my FE 24-70 for casual occasions when I don't need the best possible quality. The problem is that I compared it with the FE 55 at 55 mm and the difference in file quality was rather pronounced! (As you'd expect comparing a zoom with a prime.)

    It is actually a good performer at 35 mm, better than the 16-35 at that focal length, but judging by the reviews I've read (and Barry's enthusiasm!) I think there will be a marked difference with the FE 35 1.4 Distagon. If that lens performs anything like the FE 55 I'll be very happy indeed.

    Fedex estimate Thursday delivery and I'll post some shots next weekend.
    I'm beginning to like my 24-70 a lot. I was slow to use it because I bought it mainly as a snap shooter. I'm finding it is a very convenient lens for walking around with on my early morning wanderings. If I know exactly what I am going to shoot then I tend to pack only one lens that I need for that particular capture. But when I am speccing things out it is great to have the zoom range and I've got many keepers from unexpected opportunities. Not as important to me but it is also a very nicely built lens.

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    My back garden. Sony A7R, CV21/1.8 Ultron - HDR merge in LR6 then post-processing in Color Effex.

    Love this one Louis, reminds me of my childhood in Hounslow
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    Some more Sri Lanka pic - the trip from Nuwara Eliya to Ella is a legendary trip and all still run like it was 100 years ago - and yes the station Head - Master and the controll room is for real - this is what runs the railway.. photo - a7r/ 16-35 f/4. - train delay was 4,5 hours.

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    Sri Lanka Highland - Nuwara Eliya afther a rain shower - close to Hottons Place ( Little England ) 7r - 16-35 f/4

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    Had our fair share of rain these last couple of days.
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    Same weather here on the other side of the channel, but sometimes a glimpse of the sun.

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    A spring bouquet to thank all those posting images in this thread
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    Still have no trace where the 90mm macro is so this is what I have
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    The last photographer profiled in this article is Chad, aka Show Performance.




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    Well, my FE 35 F1.4 Distagon arrived today, to my great surprise! I ordered it from Hong Kong on Friday evening, it was shipped at 3 am EDST (NY time) on Sat. and Fedex put it on my doorstep in Ontario at 1pm today. (US$1597, free shipping.) Outstanding service.

    The lens is fabulous, every bit of what I'd hoped for and then some. Because today is bright and sunny I haven't been able to test it at full aperture, but at f5.6 it is extremely sharp, crisp with beautiful micro contrast.

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