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    But this discussion is interesting ! I'm standing with Louis, Barry, Tom and Vivek. I never had a Sony APSC mirrorless, but the A7r shape, size and weight is perfect for my hands, the grip just what it should be. I too hold the A7r2 in a brick and mortar shop and found that the weight difference was very perceptible, that the grip was putting me back in DSLR territory (have a Canon 6d weighting 770 gr. only).

    Well I remember when the first A7 series were issued and so many complained that the bodies were too small. Once I dared state that I wouldn't like to return to bigger bodies and would like to keep this mirrorless advantage, I was told that then I wasn't using the right camera and that I should return to bodies with smaller sensors. I found that a little condescending.

    I too would like to get an A7rbis with the BSI sensor and silent shutter or EFC.
    IBIS of course a plus, but could live without it in order to keep the smaller size. No need of 4k video : heat dissipation seems to be one of the reasons justifying the bigger bodies.
    Oh dear ... well okay then, Annna. I've got to admit that the A7R2 with its grip is basically a little too large for my small(ish) hands.
    It's indeed quite a lump to hold. The EM1 with its grip fits me better and is more comfortable.

    So there you have it, all happy now ...
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    No need of 4k video : heat dissipation seems to be one of the reasons justifying the bigger bodies.
    It (increase in size) has not done any wonders related to heat dissipation. Those who tried 4K complain of shut downs. It is half baked at best.

    Panasonic's GH series do a far better job.
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    Well, I don't mind being the odd man out!

    The A7r2 fits my hands nearly perfectly and its UI and haptic feel are exemplary.

    Also, here in the cool mountains of Northern New Mexico I have not had yet overheating issues when using 4K video of the A7r2 for a few minutes long clips. I have had the camera operating that way in bright sunshine. No problems so far, but based on the experience of others I wouldn't be surprised if the camera eventually would shut down due to overheating as my NEX-5N and NEX-7 regularly did when shooting video for more than a few minutes. If that should happen with my A7r2 then I simply will get an external recording device.

    So, yes, I find the A7r2 4K video recording feature very useful indeed.
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    I figured that I can reduce ~40g when i remove the tilt LCD from the NEX-5N and just use the external EVF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    It (increase in size) has not done any wonders related to heat dissipation. Those who tried 4K complain of shut downs. It is half baked at best.

    Panasonic's GH series do a far better job.
    Half baked. LOL

    Other than heat dissipation, is there any video feature you feel the GH series does a better job of?

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    Another close-up taken WO...Please click on "Enlargement"




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    ^^^^^^^^^^

    Barry, that 90 macro looks like one special lens. Your first pictures with this lens on your new A7RII are great! Quentin has also posted a number of superb images with this lens. I'd almost buy the A7RII just to use this lens! Personal request: if you get a chance at some point, I'd love to see some landscape/seascape shots with the 90. Hope you're doing well, my friend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dwood View Post
    ^^^^^^^^^^

    Barry, that 90 macro looks like one special lens. Your first pictures with this lens on your new A7RII are great! Quentin has also posted a number of superb images with this lens. I'd almost buy the A7RII just to use this lens! Personal request: if you get a chance at some point, I'd love to see some landscape/seascape shots with the 90. Hope you're doing well, my friend.
    Thank you Doug...This 90mm FE macro lens is incredible IMHO, I have never seen a lens quite as sharp as this WO which still gave you such a beautiful OoF rendering albeit it's only f/2.8...simply amazing in my books.
    I am VERY, VERY happy with it's close-up performance and will carry out some mid-field and infinity land/seascape shots (stopped down) for you as soon as I get a chance You must come back over to Sony my friend
    I think the 90mm FE partnered up with the 55mm Sonnar and 35mm Distagon make a great trio of lenses
    PS. Yes it was Quentin and a number of other good folks here that sold this lens to me with their great images...Many thanks everybody ...Cheers Barry
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    Thank you Doug...This 90mm FE macro lens is incredible IMHO, I have never seen a lens quite as sharp as this WO which still gave you such a beautiful OoF rendering albeit it's only f/2.8...simply amazing in my books.
    I am VERY, VERY happy with it's close-up performance and will carry out some mid-field and infinity land/seascape shots (stopped down) for you as soon as I get a chance You must come back over to Sony my friend
    I think the 90mm FE partnered up with the 55mm Sonnar and 35mm Distagon make a great trio of lenses
    PS. Yes it was Quentin and a number of other good folks here that sold this lens to me with their great images...Many thanks everybody ...Cheers Barry
    I totally agree with your trio of lenses. The 55 was always my favorite on the A7R, and everything I've seen from you and others confirms how great both the 35 and 90 are. And maybe you'd loan me your WATE for the wide end. Decisions, decisions. Guess I better go water the money tree in the back yard.
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    ^^^^^^^^

    Barry, words fail. Rarely do I see a photograph that I just want to keep looking at but this is definitely one...

    Really nice work.
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    Making hay up in the hills. Sony A7RII + 55mm F/1.8 FE Sonnar.



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    ^^^^^^^^

    Barry, words fail. Rarely do I see a photograph that I just want to keep looking at but this is definitely one...

    Really nice work.
    Thank you Jim for your very kind words, most appreciated...Cheers Barry

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    Barry (and others with the FE90): How do you like the Bokeh? Bokeh (IMHO) is a critical feature for any macro or portrait lens.

    I've read a few off-the-cuff criticisms about the FE90 bokeh, and I just don't get that. Every image I've seen with that lens, the bokeh is superb! I realize that bokeh can be very subjective, but I love the soft, dreamy like rendition of the FE90. I had that lens for a few days:

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    Maybe it is just me, but I love the bokeh in these shots.

    I ended up returning it due to its size, but now I'm reconsidering. Especially since I may never receive the Batis 85 .
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    Shot today in Yorklyn, Delaware with a a7rII and FE 55mm f1.8





    I know what your thinking but honestly the horizon is not off that smoke stack is actually leaning and the factory is folding into it.
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    Barry (and others with the FE90): How do you like the Bokeh? Bokeh (IMHO) is a critical feature for any macro or portrait lens.

    I've read a few off-the-cuff criticisms about the FE90 bokeh, and I just don't get that. Every image I've seen with that lens, the bokeh is superb! I realize that bokeh can be very subjective, but I love the soft, dreamy like rendition of the FE90. I had that lens for a few days:

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    Maybe it is just me, but I love the bokeh in these shots.

    I ended up returning it due to its size, but now I'm reconsidering. Especially since I may never receive the Batis 85 .
    David, boke is subjective as you say but we both like the same rendering it seems (soft and dreamy)...The 35/1.4, 55/1.8 and 90/2.8 all share the same character of OoF rendering that I personally prefer...The Batis 85/1.8 looks to be also an excellent choice as well...The 90mm lens is heavier, larger and slower than the 85mm Batis but I just can't see the Batis being any sharper than the 90mm + it also has very low distortion, hardly and CA and low vignetting WO...The decision between either of those two lenses is going to be a hard one but in the end you can't really go wrong with either
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Haines View Post
    David, boke is subjective as you say but we both like the same rendering it seems (soft and dreamy)...The 35/1.4, 55/1.8 and 90/2.8 all share the same character of OoF rendering that I personally prefer...The Batis 85/1.8 looks to be also an excellent choice as well...The 90mm lens is heavier, larger and slower than the 85mm Batis but I just can't see the Batis being any sharper than the 90mm + it also has very low distortion, hardly and CA and low vignetting WO...The decision between either of those two lenses is going to be a hard one but in the end you can't really go wrong with either
    Thanks Barry.

    Upon further review:

    Batis 85 - 17 oz. 3.62"
    FE 90 - 21 oz. 5.14"

    That difference is less than I had imagined. It puts the FE 90 halfway between the FE 24-70 & FE 70-200, size wise.

    I'd much prefer a faster lens, but for portraiture I tend to stop down one or two stops to assure all features are in focus - especially true for big noses.

    The cost difference is minimal in the USA. So, for me it's basically a tradeoff of the macro possibilities vs. faster aperture.

    The fact that the FE 90 is readily available vs. the Batis existing somewhere the the Ozone layer makes the Sony a bit more seductive. I am an impatient person, maybe even more so than Guy.

    You are right, tough choice. There are several lengthy threads on DPR and FM covering the subject.
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    Three more shots this evening using A7RII and Zeiss Otus 55 1.4. Wish I'd had my Batis 85 today....longer lens with auto focus would have helped here with these friendly Mountain Goats at the base of Quandary Mountain!! Batis supposed to arrive Monday tho......Eleanor

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    Temple of Promise, Black Rock Desert. A7R II + FE16-35/4. 16 mm, F/11.

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    this morning's omelette, ready to fold. tomato, tomatillo, jalapeño, onion, feta, 50mm snap
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    Quote Originally Posted by jlm View Post
    this morning's omelette, ready to fold. tomato, tomatillo, jalapeño, onion, feta, 50mm snap

    Hmm, that looks delicious! Enjoy!
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    Here is one from this morning.
    I enjoy exploring our front courtyard with a macro lens, looking for interesting patterns in the plants and flowers.

    I also did some comparing between a Canon 100mm F2.8 L macro on A7RII via Metabones adapter. Fast focus BTW.
    And, the Batis 85 F1.8 with a 10mm extension tube.





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    Well went out to photograph the moon tonight but heavy cloud cover to the east in central Colorado. Looking west after sunset was lovely however. A7RII with Zeiss 100 f2. Eleanor

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    It took four tries but I got the image I saw. :-)

    Actually this is a composite of four images. Three are the background water and sky. Did a three image pano with 150-600 Tamron they are horizontal composited into a vertical. They were shot at 150mm F8.

    The moon was shot at 600mm F8. The particular image was shot about 2 hours after the three for the background.

    The clouds were traversing the sky and the moon was coming in and out.

    Probably should soften up the moon image to make it more realistic.

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    Lunar Eclipse as seen from Camden Town, London at 2 minutes after totality.

    Sony A7S FE 2.8/90 iso 10,000 f8 2 secs.

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    Apparently the A7RII isn't ideal for safari and wildlife ...

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    (A7RII, Tamron 150-600 @ 550mm, LA-EA4, ISO 6400, 1/250s f/13)

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    Interesting Petzval bokeh effects!
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    A7r with old Nikkor 300/2.8 AIS lens. Just did a quick conversion, but the dark areas looked blocked up to me. Could be the poor monitors here at work. I down rezzed to 72dpi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrahamWelland View Post
    Apparently the A7RII isn't ideal for safari and wildlife ...
    I agree Graham, way too much detail in the giraffe's coat. And that large bright thing in the background. What can I say...?

    Great picture is all that comes to mind. :-)

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    David : great shot of the supermoon and Louis plus Joël too.

    Here it was very frustrating : I stood up at 4 o'clock hoping to catch something, but there was a thick cloudcover and no way to see the moon. I was able to get a rising supermoon yesterday evening though :

    A7r plus Canon 70-200mm F4 IS USM plus 1.4 extender, plus Metabones smart adapter version III (This is a 100% crop, note the cross on top of the mountain)

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    pretty rough looking "eclipse"

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    pretty rough looking "eclipse"
    What lossy does.

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    Eleanor, we had mist, clouds and a haze here in the mid atlantic so at best my best image last night pretty much stank...... I did not use a a7 based camera ellecting for apc reach instead with the 150-600. In retrospect I probably would of tried the a7rII with that lens if I had the #3 adaptor just for a higher iso performance.

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    Those colors are delicious. I like the second picture especially, with the line of trees against the sky and the subtle intricacies of all those curved horizontals. May be you weren't able to get that supermoon, but the outing was fruitful nevertheless. I had no luck with the bloody moon either : thick cloud cover this morning at 4 o'clock. I didn't even try to get out.

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    Well went out to photograph the moon tonight but heavy cloud cover to the east in central Colorado. Looking west after sunset was lovely however. A7RII with Zeiss 100 f2. Eleanor

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    A couple of Super Blood Moon shots.



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    A7R MII, 28mmf/2, ISO500, 1/20sec handheld.
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    A7R, 17mm TS-E, f11, 1/6th of a second, ISO 100

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    I like this one very much. Great catch !

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    A7S + FE28 + FE55

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    Many thanks Annna. I felt the colors were subtle and I kina' liked that...delicious as you said :-) eleanor

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