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    Here another, taken two minutes later. DOF is probably a touch too shallow here...

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    No images on this post....just wanted to let those who have been Leica users that I just returned to Houston from Colorado and here I have access to my Leica lenses. Have been wanting to try at the least my 50 Summilux ASPH on my A7RII. I have heard various remarks about the efficacy of trying the Leica lenses. Surface it to say this lens on my A7RII is astounding....I see no issues with this set up at all. Sharpness, over the top micro detail, lovely bokeh, color, good enough (not perfect) edge sharpness beginning at least at f4...perhaps f 2.8. I can highly recommend using a setup like this. I'm using my Novoflex converter. Instead of using my Otus 55 on this camera, which is huge, think I' like this just as much. Will use this for a while and see if my first impressions hold up over time. Eleanor
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    Here a rare attempt at a product shot, taken at 03:10 am

    Do you guys ever sleep in there?

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    Playing with a time-lapse technique I found someone in Japan shooting, small test here - https://vimeo.com/142138458
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    Here are a few more grabs from the heavens.

    The first is actually my first attempt at deep sky astrophotography. It's composed of 30 x 30-sec exposures of galaxy M51, more popularly known as the Whirlpool Galaxy. The stars aren't quite round (probably due to the windy conditions), but I was happy with the unguided tracking capability of the Atlas Pro + Celestron Edge HD 8" sct. Processing was done in DSS/Photoshop, as my PixInsight processing skills are awaiting refinement.

    The second shot is a single, 120-second, wide-view shot of the Veil Nebula at ISO 3200. I used a Sigma 180mm 2.8 OS at f2.8. Once I actually get around to stacking and processing this target, noise will decrease dramatically - what you're seeing at this size are stars, not noise - and the nebula will pop in much greater detail. However, the image is proof that even an ancient A7R, unmodded, is capable of picking up H-Alpha (Hα) emissions with a signal exposure.

    The third shot is a single, 30-second capture of an unknown (to me, right now, without my notes) part of the Milky Way, taken with the same setup at f3.2. What a nebulous, dusty place we live in!










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    Jemaa el-Fnaa, the main square in Marrakech, Morocco. A7R w/FE55 (pano mode)


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    Do you guys ever sleep in there?
    It was tempting not to because the light often was fabulous 24/7. Generally, we decided day-by-day whether to stay up during the night or not, and if we did, we caught up on sleep the next day. It's an odd thing when it never gets properly dark for months. Your body seems to mind much less when you catch sleep, as long as you do get enough of it...

    Edit: or did you mean sleeping in the Zodiac? No, there wouldn't have been enough room for that because of the amount of gear we lugged around (fuel tanks, shore going emergency kit, food, camera gear, drone, etc...). And we didn't even think about sleeping when we were out at night because this was the time of the most beautiful light.
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    Moriarty New Mexico.


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    Another day, another berg...



    Edit: new version with reduced vignetting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Pfister View Post
    It was tempting not to because the light often was fabulous 24/7. Generally, we decided day-by-day whether to stay up during the night or not, and if we did, we caught up on sleep the next day. It's an odd thing when it never gets properly dark for months. Your body seems to mind much less when you catch sleep, as long as you do get enough of it...

    Edit: or did you mean sleeping in the Zodiac? No, there wouldn't have been enough room for that because of the amount of gear we lugged around (fuel tanks, shore going emergency kit, food, camera gear, drone, etc...). And we didn't even think about sleeping when we were out at night because this was the time of the most beautiful light.
    Ron I meant sleeping at "night".
    It is a whole different world I could guess.
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    High Ridgelines by unoh7, on Flickr


    Big Lost Cottonwoods by unoh7, on Flickr

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    The little Cornish village of Lerryn and itís tidal river




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    The little Cornish village of Lerryn and itís tidal river
    Fantastic images, Barry! Thanks for sharing...
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    Mourning dove waiting for mate. A7RII + Tamron 150-600 @ 600mm ISO 5000 f/6.3.

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    The Batis 85mm finally came today!

    These are from my first walk around the block with it. So far, so good.





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    Very nice OOF rendering, if you ask me.

    In the office with the 85mm Batis - @ ƒ2.2
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    'bursting seed pods' - A7RII / Sony FE 90 Macro

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    Chickadee. Sony A7RII + Tamron 150-600 @ 420mm

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    DSC04979 by Eden Children, on Flickr


    DSC04952 by Eden Children, on Flickr


    DSC04632 by Eden Children, on Flickr


    DSC04617 by Eden Children, on Flickr

    75 lux A7.mod
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    Quote Originally Posted by dwood View Post
    'bursting seed pods' - A7RII / Sony FE 90 Macro
    ^^^ ^^^
    Doug...Nice one, I will take the Drop box link down now my friend as you have probably carried out a few tests of your own by now
    The 90mm FE and A7RII is magic combo, for either near or far off subjects
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    This is Gweek a lovely little channel along from the Helford River (About 50 miles S.W. of Lerryn), quite a lot of boat building is carried out down here (just out of sight on the RH side is a boat yard).
    In fact, I think Ron told me that his beautiful Pilot Cutter was built here if I remember correctly.
    Two versions...Tone mapped colour and a timeless Platinum toned image...Taken this afternoon



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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Haines View Post
    ^^^ ^^^
    Doug...Nice one, I will take the Drop box link down now my friend as you have probably carried out a few tests of your own by now
    The 90mm FE and A7RII is magic combo, for either near or far off subjects
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    Yes, thanks again for those FE 90 files, Barry. I rented the A7RII, FE 90 and FE 35/1.4 to give it all a go. The goodies just arrived today and I'll be giving it all a workout over the next few days. The 90 is crazy good. Just outstanding! Looking forward to playing with the 35 too. You know this is all your fault, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dwood View Post
    Yes, thanks again for those FE 90 files, Barry. I rented the A7RII, FE 90 and FE 35/1.4 to give it all a go. The goodies just arrived today and I'll be giving it all a workout over the next few days. The 90 is crazy good. Just outstanding! Looking forward to playing with the 35 too. You know this is all your fault, right?
    That's right blame me ...But then I do blame half a dozen to a dozen other photographers here that first showed their 90mm FE images off within this thread, that's how I also got hooked

    The 90mm is rather good isn't it + The 35mm isn't half bad either

    You will soon be back here full time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Haines View Post
    That's right blame me ...But then I do blame half a dozen to a dozen other photographers here that first showed their 90mm FE images off within this thread, that's how I also got hooked

    The 90mm is rather good isn't it + The 35mm isn't half bad either

    You will soon be back here full time
    Yeah, I guess there's a long line of people to blame.

    We'll see how things go. If nothing else, it will be fun to play with the camera and these lenses. I'll send you the bill if it all goes too well.
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    Here more Greenlandic geology, this time a little more cheerful:

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    This is Gweek a lovely little channel along from the Helford River (About 50 miles S.W. of Lerryn), quite a lot of boat building is carried out down here (just out of sight on the RH side is a boat yard).
    In fact, I think Ron told me that his beautiful Pilot Cutter was built here if I remember correctly.
    Two versions...Tone mapped colour and a timeless Platinum toned image...Taken this afternoon
    Ah, really lovely images, Barry! Yes, indeed - the boat yard is Ezra's birthplace... Thanks so much for sharing!
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    I know this is OT, but I'm struggling with sRGB exports from ProPhoto RGB originals in LR. Sometimes the exports look so different, it doesn't even seem like the same edit of a given image. How do you all go about this? I haven't tried soft proofing in sRGB in earnest, but that seems like it might be a good way to go. Any thoughts would be most welcome...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Pfister View Post
    I know this is OT, but I'm struggling with sRGB exports from ProPhoto RGB originals in LR. Sometimes the exports look so different, it doesn't even seem like the same edit of a given image. How do you all go about this? I haven't tried soft proofing in sRGB in earnest, but that seems like it might be a good way to go. Any thoughts would be most welcome...
    If that's the case, my first suspicion is that you have a calibration problem with your monitor.

    Even though LR is processing the image parametrically the image shown on the screen is in the sRGB color space, unless your monitor supports aRGB.

    Also, make sure Lightroom is setup to export to a known sRGB space. If its exporting to your monitor sRGB that could be a problem.

    I calibrate my monitors and have no problems with either relative or perceptual exports to sRGB for the web or printing at a lab.
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    Many thanks for your reply, David. I should have mentioned that the displays I use are hardware calibrated wide-gamut displays by Quato, supporting a wider gamut than Adobe RGB. That's the crux, really - the native gamut is so much wider than sRGB that it makes the sRGB exports look positively flat in many cases...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Pfister View Post
    Many thanks for your reply, David. I should have mentioned that the displays I use are hardware calibrated wide-gamut displays by Quato, supporting a wider gamut than Adobe RGB. That's the crux, really - the native gamut is so much wider than sRGB that it makes the sRGB exports look positively flat in many cases...
    Not having used a wide gamut display I can see where that would be a problem since Lightroom is using the monitor profile for its screen images.

    How do the wide gamut displays deal with normal web sRGB images?

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    Not having used a wide gamut display I can see where that would be a problem since Lightroom is using the monitor profile for its screen images.

    How do the wide gamut displays deal with normal web sRGB images?
    Well, they just render sRGB faithfully, since that is well within their gamut. The issue is that when you're editing in LR (or any other editor, for that matter) on such a display, you make use of the gamut of the colour space the display is calibrated and profiled to (for argument's sake, let's say this is Adobe RGB). This is great because you get to make use of that gamut when editing, eeking out whatever your RAW file allows you to. However, while you're editing, you have no means of telling what the end result will look like once exported to sRGB. Nor would you really want to see that because you want to make use of that wide-gamut colour space.

    One could 'dumb down' the display to sRGB and edit in that colour space, but that defeats the purpose of a wide-gamut display, IMO. I think the answer is soft proofing in sRGB after completing the primary edit by creating a proof copy and visually matching that to the primary, wide-gamut edit as best as possible.

    I will give that a go and will let you know what I find. Any further suggestions would be most appreciated, but please PM me instead of posting here. I don't want to de-rail this thread...

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    Just to wrap this up for now, here another possible solution to my conundrum: exporting to Adobe RGB. Below the same image as the one previously posted - no differences at all in its editing, simply exported to Adobe RGB instead of sRGB. If you can't see a difference (or if the Adobe RGB version looks pretty poor/flat), your display or browser can't render Adobe RGB effectively. This will be the case on e.g. an iPad. NB: the current versions of all major browsers (Firefox, Chrome, Safari) will handle embedded profiles properly on Mac OS - don't know about Windows or Linux. If you think the Adobe RGB version looks markedly better (i.e. if the sky has much less of a magenta cast and the colours generally are more saturated, the tones are richer and there is more detail in the shadows) than the sRGB version in my previous post, you have a display with a wider gamut than sRGB and your browser can render that - and you can probably appreciate what I was getting at...



    Edit: below the original sRGB version just so it's easier to compare them side-by-side.

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    Iím not a macro shooter and it shows. I was fascinated by the insect and it seemed fascinated by me. Then it got bored and flew away.

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    A little bit of autumn colour. I could do with a little rain to make it pop I think (ironic request given where I live since if there's one thing we have, it's rain! )

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrahamWelland View Post
    A little bit of autumn colour. I could do with a little rain to make it pop I think (ironic request given where I live since if there's one thing we have, it's rain! )

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    Graham, that's a mill I haven't seen before. I love grist mills and old barns and...

    Excellent image. Thanks for sharing.

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    Jewel Lake Trail, Tilden Park, Berkeley

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    PS: It's also posted in BW on the Sony BW thread.

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    Reflections on a Fall day

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    Black cat in a village, Morocco. A7r w/FE55

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    Taken earlier today in my backyard, a bit closer to home.

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    At the graveyard,



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    A grey day in Oxford

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    Break time

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    San Francisco's Conservatory of Flowers in Golden Gate Park. Sony A7rII, FE16-35. Tone mapped:


    ... A great place to go with my new FE 90 Macro. I love the sharpness and versatility of this lens, and the lovely, creamy bokeh in provides. All shots hand held:




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    A couple of backyard, through the kitchen window shots with the A7RII + Tamron 150-600.



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    I posted some in the A7Rii / long lens sticky thread.

    After seeing how sensitive 42MP + lenses like Leica 180 APO are to slight turning of the focus ring (I would say about 2-3 degrees) and it is easy to see things go in/out of focus at full mag in LV my conclusion is that all that debate about how superior OVFs are is settled for me. Simply not possible to achieve this level of accuracy with OVF no matter how good your eyes are. Even with AF I doubt if it can match manual fine tune in scenes like these.

    #1 is with A7 + 70-400 G II (very happy with the way this combo handled the dark and light areas)

    2,3,4 with A7Rii + Leica R 180MM APO Elmarit.

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    Jaree
    Your photo of building with red roof is excellent.
    That was the scene of the Breton Woods agreement, in 1946, when the US guaranteed that the US dollar was backed by gold at $35/ounce. When de Gaulle came to get his gold - Nixon nixed the guarantee in 1971.
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    Think something like "the War Debt" that France owed for WWII came up in conversation first before they tried to empty our gold reserve if my memory serves me ........ That is when we went off the gold standard so International banks would stop converting our currency and demanding gold for France.

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    FE 55/1.8 on A7s in the Hague.

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    Jaree
    Your photo of building with red roof is excellent.
    That was the scene of the Breton Woods agreement, in 1946, when the US guaranteed that the US dollar was backed by gold at $35/ounce. When de Gaulle came to get his gold - Nixon nixed the guarantee in 1971.
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    Thanks Paul....and yes... that is the "Omni Mount Washington Resort". Never been inside, always outside! http://www.omnihotels.com/hotels/bre...unt-washington

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    Sony A7rII & FE28/2










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