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    A couple of panos of Ithaca Falls and Fall Creek. A7RII+Sony FE 24-70, hand held. Salmon and brown trout are spawning in Fall Creek now. I could see several large fish looking down from the cliff below the falls but the fish were ignoring all of the lures several fishermen were throwing at them.





    REJECTED! This hapless angler had a group of 10-15 lb salmon spawning about 10 ft in front of him, but he was unable to get them to even look at his offerings.

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    Taken the other evening at Padstow Harbour
    A7R2 + 90mm FE at F2.8 0.5sec iso100 (Handheld)
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    " Biossphere IV "






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    Spotted this on my afternoon walkabout




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    Nice find, Barry!

    Mother nature looks a bit depressed. I can imagine so.
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    Nice find, Barry!

    Mother nature looks a bit depressed. I can imagine so.
    Thanks Michiel...This continuing gloomy damp weather is enough to bring anybody down!

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    Spotted this on my afternoon walkabout




    ...no, the look is different...I think she's melancolic in love with you Barry...
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    ...no, the look is different...I think she's melancolic in love with you Barry...
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    Thanks Thorkil...Personally I thought she looked a bit bemused when she saw my trousers/pants
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    Neolithic cemetery later also used by the Romans. Sion, rue du Petit-Chasseur. First remains ascend to 3200-2700 BC.

    The environment is quite less romantic than the Cornish ones photographed by Barry. On one side is a school and on the other sides apartments houses. The place lacks "magic" but it is also nice to have such a place in the middle of the city.

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    Annna, I actually quite like the juxtaposition of the old and the new, it makes a refreshing change (at least for me)...In Cornwall we only have the old with the old

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    Barry, great idea and well executed! Thanks.
    With best regards, K-H.
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    Playing with the new toy yesterday.


    'An afternoon ferry'

















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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Haines View Post
    Thanks Thorkil...Personally I thought she looked a bit bemused when she saw my trousers/pants
    ...ha-ha...yes now I see it (but you forgot to press the selfie-buttom too), at tiny little sourly ironic smile ... yet indulgent.. is about to take place by her mouth
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    Playing with the new toy yesterday.


    'An afternoon ferry'








    Fabulous light on this one Tom just picking out the dolphins as they break the surface of the water.
    Congrats on your new camera.....It's rather good init

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    Apart from the dim quay lights this scene was pretty dark to the naked eye!...The EVF was invaluable for composing the image.
    To be honest I just don’t think I would have bothered taking the shot at all if I was using a DSLR with an optical finder, certainly not unless I had a tripod with me at the time.
    This was taken handheld at iso800 0.4 sec with the A7RII/55mm FE shot WO.



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    Thanks Barry! I only wish I had something a bit longer than the 55 with me at the time. That shot of the dolphins is practically a 100% crop.

    It's definitely early days - I've had the a7rii since Saturday - but I'm impressed so far. It's much more polished than version 1, and with my somewhat shaky hands ibis is invaluable! I've still got a few quibbles (read: the weight!), but I'm sure I'll adapt in time.

    I hadn't planned on upgrading so soon, but decided to take advantage of the weak Australian dollar vis-a-vis the US dollar. I picked up the Aussie version for $2620 usd.
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    Thanks Barry! I only wish I had something a bit longer than the 55 with me at the time. That shot of the dolphins is practically a 100% crop.

    It's definitely early days - I've had the a7rii since Saturday - but I'm impressed so far. It's much more polished than version 1, and with my somewhat shaky hands ibis is invaluable! I've still got a few quibbles (read: the weight!), but I'm sure I'll adapt in time.

    I hadn't planned on upgrading so soon, but decided to take advantage of the weak Australian dollar vis-a-vis the US dollar. I picked up the Aussie version for $2620 usd.
    That's a pretty good price Tom, it's already dropped a bit which is obviously annoying to the early adopters and myself that came along a bit later on
    Werner + Guy (with his review) put my mind at ease...so I went ahead and don't regret it in the least...it's a good upgrade for sure.
    You have yourself a great camera now to build a superb lens arsenal around...No rush just pick your lenses slowly and surely for your style of photography - The 55mm is a great lens to radiate your selection around
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    That's a pretty good price Tom, it's already dropped a bit which is obviously annoying to the early adopters and myself that came along a bit later on
    Werner + Guy (with his review) put my mind at ease...so I went ahead and don't regret it in the least...it's a good upgrade for sure.
    You have yourself a great camera now to build a superb lens arsenal around...No rush just pick your lenses slowly and surely for your style of photography - The 55mm is a great lens to radiate your selection around
    Yeah, I got lucky on the price, though only because of the idiosyncrasies of global currency markets! I had planned on buying a used a7rii in a few months at a similar price, but this allowed me to grab a new copy! Even at $3k+ usd it's still a hell of a camera. Also, something tells me (or is it wishful thinking?) it won't depreciate as quickly as the 7r.

    Lenses, lenses, lenses. I keep meaning to buy the FE 16-35 for general purpose use, but for some reason have yet to do so. I know it's a great performer, but something in me just can't stand the thought of carrying bulky zooms anymore. The batis 85 and and FE 90 are also superb choices, but I've got that range pretty well covered with legacy options. What I'm really looking for is a high quality, native, 135mm or 180/200mm that doesn't weigh a ton. f2.8 for the 135 or even f4 for the 180/200 would be fine! I know, this request is unlikely to be met...
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    What I'm really looking for is a high quality, native, 135mm or 180/200mm that doesn't weigh a ton.
    Aren't we all?! Welcome to my world.

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    FRACTAL WATERFALL....I used a technique of blending a fractal textured version of the original image with the original PP image.
    Absolutely incredible Barry!! I love the resulting combination of smooth and crisp texture. Beautiful, fascinating, intriguing. Many thanks for sharing!
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    Bit of fun from Amsterdam with my A7S and a Voigtlander 75mm f2.5 Color Heliar.

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    Pushing the ISO to 20,000. Eeeek.

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    Yeah, I got lucky on the price, though only because of the idiosyncrasies of global currency markets! I had planned on buying a used a7rii in a few months at a similar price, but this allowed me to grab a new copy! Even at $3k+ usd it's still a hell of a camera. Also, something tells me (or is it wishful thinking?) it won't depreciate as quickly as the 7r.

    Lenses, lenses, lenses. I keep meaning to buy the FE 16-35 for general purpose use, but for some reason have yet to do so. I know it's a great performer, but something in me just can't stand the thought of carrying bulky zooms anymore. The batis 85 and and FE 90 are also superb choices, but I've got that range pretty well covered with legacy options. What I'm really looking for is a high quality, native, 135mm or 180/200mm that doesn't weigh a ton. f2.8 for the 135 or even f4 for the 180/200 would be fine! I know, this request is unlikely to be met...
    I would pass on the 16-35mm if you hope to get a general purpose lens : the longer end isn't that good. I may have a bad copy of the 16-35mm and a good copy of the 24-70mm, but at 24mm and up, the standard zoom is better than the 16-35mm. From the reviews I have read and the feedback of owners, the wide angle zoom should equal the 24-70mm at 28mm and be better at 24mm. But I was deceived by the results i get, since I mostly use 21mm and up. IMO, for the focals I'm using, it wasn't worth the increased weight and bulk. In fact, it stays home most of the time and I somewhat regret that purchase. I do also regret the 70-200mm F4, which isn't as good as its Canon equivalent and bulkier. So now with the A7rII being able to focus Canon glass better, I'm considering getting rid of those two zoom lenses, with the 24-70mm as a walk around lens and primes for better results. I will get either the Loxia 21 or the Batis 25mm, I'm still not sure which.

    As for prices, here the best price you can find online is 3545.- CHF with the 8% VAT included. Aka given the actual changing rates and without VAT 3265$. The official Sony price is 3599.- CHF VAT included. I paid mine 3190.-CHF (aka 2938$ without VAT) because it was supposed to be a showroom model and they made me a 10% rebate. In fact it was really like new. It didn't even have the date and time memorized. But it has only a one year warranty instead of two (I suspect that it was a grey import rather than a showroom model). Anyway, I'm very happy with it and don't think that I will need another camera for a while. Nor do I expect the prices to go down as fast as on the previous model.
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    Quote Originally Posted by furtle View Post
    Bit of fun from Amsterdam with my A7S and a Voigtlander 75mm f2.5 Color Heliar.

    Trying show the skinny bridge a bit fat?
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    I have been screening some of my old Pentax and Hassy glass for candidates to use on a new Pentax 645z that is on the way. Here is a crop from a shot using the Pentax-A 45mm f/2.8 at f/8 on the A7RII with adapter. Seems to have good sharpness on center so may go into the potentially usable category for now. Click for 100% crop from original file.

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    The car could be cleaner, but...



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    And once again I ren into a cathedral. This time in Beauvais.
    A7r I Contax N 24-85

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    Distorted, cropped, striaghened and what not... the Mk2 still has pixels to spare.

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    No crops here


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    Quote Originally Posted by Annna T View Post
    I would pass on the 16-35mm if you hope to get a general purpose lens : the longer end isn't that good. I may have a bad copy of the 16-35mm and a good copy of the 24-70mm, but at 24mm and up, the standard zoom is better than the 16-35mm. From the reviews I have read and the feedback of owners, the wide angle zoom should equal the 24-70mm at 28mm and be better at 24mm. But I was deceived by the results i get, since I mostly use 21mm and up. IMO, for the focals I'm using, it wasn't worth the increased weight and bulk. In fact, it stays home most of the time and I somewhat regret that purchase. I do also regret the 70-200mm F4, which isn't as good as its Canon equivalent and bulkier. So now with the A7rII being able to focus Canon glass better, I'm considering getting rid of those two zoom lenses, with the 24-70mm as a walk around lens and primes for better results. I will get either the Loxia 21 or the Batis 25mm, I'm still not sure which.

    As for prices, here the best price you can find online is 3545.- CHF with the 8% VAT included. Aka given the actual changing rates and without VAT 3265$. The official Sony price is 3599.- CHF VAT included. I paid mine 3190.-CHF (aka 2938$ without VAT) because it was supposed to be a showroom model and they made me a 10% rebate. In fact it was really like new. It didn't even have the date and time memorized. But it has only a one year warranty instead of two (I suspect that it was a grey import rather than a showroom model). Anyway, I'm very happy with it and don't think that I will need another camera for a while. Nor do I expect the prices to go down as fast as on the previous model.
    I believe that you'll be happier with the size of the Loxia than the Batis so maybe that's the way you should go.
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    Yesterday evening, Paris


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    Nice shot Michiel, from the balcony/platform on top of Haussmann?
    It reminded me of this old shot of mine that I took from there 9 years ago in 2006
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    Quote Originally Posted by pegelli View Post
    Nice shot Michiel, from the balcony/platform on top of Haussmann?
    It reminded me of this old shot of mine that I took from there 9 years ago in 2006
    Yes, this is from the top of warehouse Printemps.

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    I have been screening some of my old Pentax and Hassy glass for candidates to use on a new Pentax 645z that is on the way. Here is a crop from a shot using the Pentax-A 45mm f/2.8 at f/8 on the A7RII with adapter. Seems to have good sharpness on center so may go into the potentially usable category for now. Click for 100% crop from original file.

    A couple of shots from two more Pentax lens candidates that look even better. Still have to try the Hassy 120 f/4 macro and 40 FLE Distagon.

    A7R-FS with the Pentax-FA 75mm f/2.8, two shot stitch cropped.



    A7R-FS with the Pentax-A 35mm f/3.5, converted to B&W in SEP2.



    Both of these lenses exhibit excellent sharpness across the frame. Remains to be seen how they perform on the 645z.
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    I'm late to the party but here are a few from Zion NP w the A7rII and Batis 25.
    As far as my opinion of the combo I'll just let the photos speak for themselves.
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    I couldn't resist. One more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ute View Post
    I couldn't resist. One more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pegelli View Post
    Feel free to continue, gorgeous pictures
    God, Sony, and Zeiss deserve all the credit but thanks.
    Photographic Nirvana has arrived for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ute View Post
    God, Sony, and Zeiss deserve all the credit but thanks.
    Well, for me you can add your eye to that list as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by pegelli View Post
    Well, for me you can add your eye to that list as well
    You are too kind Sir.

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    Re: Fun with the Sony A7 Series Cameras( all of them)

    Quote Originally Posted by scho View Post
    A couple of shots from two more Pentax lens candidates that look even better. Still have to try the Hassy 120 f/4 macro and 40 FLE Distagon.

    A7R-FS with the Pentax-FA 75mm f/2.8, two shot stitch cropped.

    A7R-FS with the Pentax-A 35mm f/3.5, converted to B&W in SEP2.

    Both of these lenses exhibit excellent sharpness across the frame. Remains to be seen how they perform on the 645z.
    The 35, 75 and 120mm lenses will do fine on the Z, Carl. Nice to see you join the club!

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    Sweet stuff on Place de la Bastille, Paris.

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    Re: Fun with the Sony A7 Series Cameras( all of them)

    Great shot and post. I want to eat the whole shop, now! Need some candys... I'm off...

    Quote Originally Posted by Michiel Schierbeek View Post
    The 35, 75 and 120mm lenses will do fine on the Z, Carl. Nice to see you join the club!

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    Sweet stuff on Place de la Bastille, Paris.

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    Apologies for the late response...Thank you Ron, most kind of you
    I'm glad you liked it - I thought it was a bit different but I fully understand also why it might not be everybody's cup of tea either
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    Re: Lenses, lenses, lenses + Sony 16-35mm ^^^ Likewise I would also dearly like a 135mm, although ideally I would like it to be a fast F2/F1.8 E mount lens with AF.
    I am also rethinking my Sony 16-35mm FE lens, not because it's not a good versatile lens (For me it’s very convenient not to keep switching out different FL lenses when I’m near any sea spray) but it's a zoom at the end of the day, which for me has certain shortcomings in the IQ department (In particular the 35mm end) and it’s certainly noticeable when comparing it against my 3 Sony primes (35mm Distagon, 55mm Sonnar and the 90mm G Macro)...The trouble is those 3 prime lenses have spoilt me for wanting a better SWA to WA solution!

    I’m at present currently considering the MF Zeiss 21mm F2.8 Loxia which looks to be excellent lens on paper + Together with the few favorable reviews I have seen to date.
    I would possibly pair this together later on with either one of the two newly designed 12mm Voigtlander E or VM mount lenses (Out in Spring 2016 E-Mount + VM )

    New E mount CV12 version is 12 elements in 10 groups 12 mm F 5,6 Ultra Wide-Heliar E-Mount No filter thread

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    New VM mount CV12 version is 12 elements in 10 groups 12 mm F 5,6 Ultra Wide Heliar III VM No filter thread

    Vs

    Current VM mount CV12 version 2 is 10 elements in 8 groups (which is exactly the same optically as version 1) *12 mm F 5,6 Ultra Wide Heliar 67mm filter thread

    Yet I have still to see any reviews on the newly designed Voigtlander 12mm E or VM mounts.

    I think the new Voigtlander 10mm is going to be amazing with it’s own unique look to it!...I’m sure it will be great fun to use but it’s just going to be a bit to wide for my needs!
    I have owned the Voigtlander 15mm three times before in the past (2 x Mk1 and 1 x Mk2 versions) partnered up with a Voigtlander 25mm and I used later on the 24mm Elmarit on my Leica M4 and M6's.

    My old nineties Leica 21mm f2.8 Elmarit prime was pretty good and about on par with the zoom WATE at 21mm together with the 16-35mm FE at the 21mm FL but I think the Zeiss 21mm Loxia will be a fair bit better and much better suited for the Sony A7RII sensor...The Voigtlander 12mm Mk1 back then was not all that great IMHO (The Mk2 is the same optically as the mk1 version) when it was first released although others like it well enough today, I certainly didn’t think it was as good as the CV15 mk1 that is to say.

    So this is my current way of thinking and my intended lens road map at the moment, when I can't alternatively just take a few steps backwards or forwards I would just gradually sensor crop my primes towards the APS-C size (17.8mp’s).

    Voigtlander 12mm F5.6 MF (APS-C crop the sensor to a minimum to give a circa 18mm Equivalent FL)

    Loxia Distagon 21mm F2.8 MF (APS-C crop the sensor to a minimum to give a circa 32mm Equivalent FL)

    Sony Distagon F1.4 35mm AF (APS-C crop the sensor to a minimum to give a circa 54mm Equivalent FL)

    Sony Sonnar 55mm F1.8 AF (APS-C crop the sensor to a minimum to give a circa 85mm Equivalent FL)

    Sony G 90mm F2.8 Macro AF (APS-C crop the sensor to a minimum to give a circa 138mm Equivalent FL)

    Sony or Zeiss 135mm F1.8/F2 AF (APS-C crop the sensor to a minimum to give a circa 208mm Equivalent FL)

    I think the AoV spacing between those lenses shown above is pretty decent - They pretty well join up with one another when sensor cropping down to APS-C without any large gaps in the FL’s with hardly any wasted overlapping + They cover a pretty wide field of view of probably 95% of what I would ever want to shoot
    Of course this is all subjective which lenses to choose, what suits one person doesn’t necessarily suit somebody else...I only offer this up as an alternative choice of going with over the ever growing popular 25mm Batis + 15mm Voigtlander duo that’s if you haven’t already considered it.
    ...In the end Annna I don’t think you could go wrong with either the 25mm Batis or 21mm Loxia...Cheers Barry



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    Michiel, Hope you are safe and sound . just watching the reports of the horror in Paris.
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    A7 + 24-240mm:

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    Couple more from Zion NP.
    A7rII + Zeiss Batis 25.
    Enjoy.
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