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    still playing around seeing what it can do.

    This morning took the Nikkor 50mm 1.2 down to the Boardwalk in foggy weather to try that one out on some familiar shots.

    I do believe i'll be giving up my D800E

    all w. Nikkor 50mm 1.2 shot @ f1.2

    Jim, just a humble IMO comment, but these images do not appear to achieve the same level of acutance (edge resolution/focus accuracy) as your similar D800E shots with that lens. Not saying it's bad, but it is notable.
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    My daughter, some dancing at a recent chili cook off, and an old Yashica Electro shot. First three are from the Minolta MC Rokkor PF 55/1.7, one of my favorite Rokkors that I havent been giving enough shoot time on my A7. That needs to change. The next two are from my venerable ML 50/1.7 and the last is 'lens unremembered'.

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    Been a long time since I posted...

    First image from my WATE that arrived yesterday

    It's been a long time since I shot something this wide. Gotta pay more attention to the corners!

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    Congrats Dave. I knew you'd arrive at that destination eventually. It was worth the wait, pun intended.

    The WATE is the best super-wide IMHO for the a7R. Here's a shot from a few days ago using the WATE and ISO 3200.



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    Inspired by Jim Collum, I set about similar processing using Perfect Effects 8, but I soon got distracted by the possibilities and ended up with this:


    Which I quite like, especially given that PE8 was a freebie!

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    Re: Fun with the Sony A7 and A7r series

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    Jim, just a humble IMO comment, but these images do not appear to achieve the same level of acutance (edge resolution/focus accuracy) as your similar D800E shots with that lens. Not saying it's bad, but it is notable.
    you're probably right.. the D800E shots were done with the Zeiss ZF.2 21mm, and these were done with the Nikkor 50 1.2. ..both wide open. The 21mm is unbelievably sharp wide open, while the 50mm has a slight edge glow.

    good observation

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    Re: Fun with the Sony A7 and A7r series

    There are son many great pictures I am tempted to buy an A7 or A7r to compliment my EM-1. However I have an acquaintance whose work I admire who shoots a D800E and an A7r.

    In asking his advice most of his comment very very positive except for the following: The only other downside is when using flash. The first-curtain is mechanical (due to the 36mp sensor), so the curtain must close before opening for the exposure. This causes about an 1/8 second delay. This is no problem for model shoots, but it would be a problem if you were shooting moving kids.

    Could any of you with the Sony comment on this?

    Thanks for any guidance.

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    Handheld with the Sony FE 70-200mm:



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    There are son many great pictures I am tempted to buy an A7 or A7r to compliment my EM-1. However I have an acquaintance whose work I admire who shoots a D800E and an A7r.

    In asking his advice most of his comment very very positive except for the following: The only other downside is when using flash. The first-curtain is mechanical (due to the 36mp sensor), so the curtain must close before opening for the exposure. This causes about an 1/8 second delay. This is no problem for model shoots, but it would be a problem if you were shooting moving kids.

    Could any of you with the Sony comment on this?
    Shooting fast moving subjects which move around a lot, I stick with my E-M1. It's just a much more responsive camera.

    Haven't noticed any big problems using the A7 with flash, however, but I've only used flash with it a couple of times. All people shots though. Turn off EFCS on the A7 and it's the same as the A7r with respect to shutter timing. The delay isn't 1/8 second (125ms), it's more like 40-60ms ... about what my Nikon film SLRs do on shutter lag from the feel of it. Shot kids with them and flash for thirty years and no problems.

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    Stitched pan. A7R with 50mm Zeiss Macro Planar. Downsized here. Original is 20x60 inches @ 300 dpi.
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    Re: Fun with the Sony A7 and A7r series

    Godfrey,

    Thanks for the detailed explanation. I am not looking to shoot fast moving subjects with the Sony (as you stated I have my EM-1 for that).

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    Shooting with the A7 and Leica Telyt 400 f 6.8 last week - a somewhat different experience Both cropped a little
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    Pale green leaves in late evening light. A7r with Hasselblad 40mm f/4 Distagon.

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    Joe, I'm impressed with the hues and tonal gradations that you, your A7r, and the WATE have achieved. Greens are especially hard to get right, and such vivid tones in so many images suggest oversaturation. But yours, to my eye, look like a 'real world' that I'd love to enter. And good shadow detail, too.

    Thank you,

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    'Geometry homework': I twisted my knee and can't run after people, so I'm sticking to the patterns and colors available to an old guy moving slowly.

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    'advancing tide' - A7R FE 24-70

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    Shot with Varo 90mm F1.0 Lens for Sony a7R.
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    Spectacular bokeh Chiek!
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    Was demonstrating a concept to my students and took a quick shot against the white board in the classroom to show the idea of making the mind beg for more information photographically or how to force the imagination to get into gear. Rather like how it came out actually. I wonder if my students realise just how much I use them to actualise thoughts in my head visually...


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    There are son many great pictures I am tempted to buy an A7 or A7r to compliment my EM-1. However I have an acquaintance whose work I admire who shoots a D800E and an A7r.

    In asking his advice most of his comment very very positive except for the following: The only other downside is when using flash. The first-curtain is mechanical (due to the 36mp sensor), so the curtain must close before opening for the exposure. This causes about an 1/8 second delay. This is no problem for model shoots, but it would be a problem if you were shooting moving kids.

    Could any of you with the Sony comment on this?

    Thanks for any guidance.

    Jim
    When using flash with the A7R the shutter delay approaches 1/4 sec and is very noticeable. Its very difficult to photograph grandchildren with this camera. However, there is one work-around that is very helpful. A big part of the delay is the pre-flash delay when using TTL mode. The pre-flash delay is exceptionally long on this camera due to the long delay for the mechanical first shutter. All Sony brand flashes have this terrible TTL pre-flash delay. The solution is to use a non-Sony flash that support A (Auto-flash) mode. These flashes measure the return light from the subject and automatically shut off the flash when enough light is received. There is no Pre-flash, no closed or patially closed eyes, and a much faster shutter delay. Of course you still have the A7 slow response but not as bad. If you are serious about photographing grandchildren, then get a Nikon D800E which is really fast and has only about 45 msec of shutter delay.

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    Thanks - I rarely use TTL anyway. I have fond memories of using A mode on flash that I unfortunately no longer have. It always seemed to work well and helped eliminate closed eyes as you stated.

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    Re: Fun with the Sony A7 and A7r series

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    Joe, I'm impressed with the hues and tonal gradations that you, your A7r, and the WATE have achieved. Greens are especially hard to get right, and such vivid tones in so many images suggest oversaturation. But yours, to my eye, look like a 'real world' that I'd love to enter. And good shadow detail, too.

    Thank you,

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    Thanks Kirk. Welcome to my world. Or more accurately, to my backyard as rendered by the a7R and WATE.

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    When using flash with the A7R the shutter delay approaches 1/4 sec and is very noticeable. Its very difficult to photograph grandchildren with this camera. However, there is one work-around that is very helpful. A big part of the delay is the pre-flash delay when using TTL mode. The pre-flash delay is exceptionally long on this camera due to the long delay for the mechanical first shutter. All Sony brand flashes have this terrible TTL pre-flash delay. The solution is to use a non-Sony flash that support A (Auto-flash) mode. ...
    Ah, there's why I never see this problem. I own no Sony flashes and never use TTL flash with anything but my Olympus cameras, and even there rarely. I've used the A7 with only RF flash remote triggers and simple flash units. Shutter lag is the same as for a Nikon or Leica film SLR, about 40-60 ms.

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    Was demonstrating a concept to my students and took a quick shot against the white board in the classroom to show the idea of making the mind beg for more information photographically or how to force the imagination to get into gear. Rather like how it came out actually. I wonder if my students realise just how much I use them to actualise thoughts in my head visually...
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    You can also use the GetDPI background (#393939 - Not color managed) on the background layer to now make seamless oval and circular frames...Cheers Barry


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    Re: Fun with the Sony A7 and A7r series

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    Jim, just a humble IMO comment, but these images do not appear to achieve the same level of acutance (edge resolution/focus accuracy) as your similar D800E shots with that lens. Not saying it's bad, but it is notable.
    This is a shot that morning from the 21mm 2.8 on the A7r.. has a little different acutance than those with the 50 1.2


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    Had been away deep in Italy with slow and sluggisch net connections, so i missed lots of great pics (and likes to give ). Have to go through all these..


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    "Nostalgia"





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