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    Quote Originally Posted by pegelli View Post
    Let's try:

    @ Super Angulon, lovely suspense in that picture
    @ Barry Haines, great lines and rolls in the waves, only the saturation feels a bit over the top (matter of taste I think)
    @ Michiel Schierbeek, the first one doesn't do much for me (too many lines which don't go anywhere particular) but the second is excellent. I love the symmetry broken by the faint reflection of the floor with the structure's own shadow
    @ W.Utsch, great processing and I understand the ship must have been the hardest. I think the composition screams "square crop" to me, there isn't too much in the foreground water anyway and it will give a great old hassy look.
    @ Knorp, first is a bit busy, but gives good context, I like the second better, it's a less distracting background and better positioned violins.

    He, that wasn't too hard

    Now I only need an a7 to participate in this thread, but I guess that will take some time.

    pegelli...Looking forward to you getting your A7....But beware of the critiques though
    Must admit you were spot on with my assessment though
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    I would just add that I thought that the last 2 pages were of a pretty high standard overall IMO from everybody - I would go as far as saying that each member has pushed themselves and others to try just that little bit harder, which is great!
    Speaking personally many thanks everybody for all my likes and comments most appreciated...I really enjoy being here and sharing with all of you.

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    Re: Fun with the Sony A7 and A7r series

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    Color or Black and White?

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    a7r | Leitz Elmar 3,5/65 mm and Short Mount,
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    Re: Fun with the Sony A7 and A7r series

    A7r with 55 1.8
    Studio Lighting
    20140813-DSC00227-Edit by jmmtampa, on Flickr

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    Taken over a period of about 50 minutes...All handheld A7R
    Who needs an A7S ? (I don't need it but I still want it )


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    Great Barry!
    Who's head is that in the water?

    Rolls.

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    Great Barry!
    Who's head is that in the water?

    Rolls.
    Neptune!....I thought it was obvious even without his trident.
    Nice Rolls

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    Taken this evening...Blended colour with monochrome.


    I know my opinion is not shared by everybody but these are ”Blots on the Landscape” IMHO...Cheers Barry


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    Grandson

    @ 1.2

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    Neptune!....I thought it was obvious even without his trident.
    Nice Rolls
    Looks more like a contemplating philosopher to me.
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    "Window Dekoration: Inside/Outside"

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    Rolls.
    How does that old saying go?...Oh I remember - "Less is more". +1


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    Re: Fun with the Sony A7 and A7r series

    overexposed about a stop

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlm View Post
    overexposed about a stop

    Boy oh boy!...You workshop members are hard to please.
    SAME EXPOSURE...But improved highlight detail raw processing.
    (Yes, I had to start all over again with the Mk2 version...No requests this is the final version as I have a busy day ahead looking after my parents).
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    PS. If that still looks overexposed by a stop, please recalibrate your monitor as mine was done only yesterday.

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    Re: Fun with the Sony A7 and A7r series

    definitely shows more detail in the hot spot of the bun, but i could use even more. not so much a monitor calibration as blown highlights. (I use a well calibrated Eizo CG 241, by the way)

    but i'm one of those guys who likes his toast dark

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlm View Post
    definitely shows more detail in the hot spot of the bun, but i could use even more. not so much a monitor calibration as blown highlights. (I use a well calibrated Eizo CG 241, by the way)

    but i'm one of those guys who likes his toast dark
    Looks perfect to me jlm, nothing blown in the highlights whatsoever!
    How do others perceive it I am very interested in knowing now?
    Is my bun to light, OK or to dark.

    PS. I like my toast burnt too but no more than this.
    As I said busy day will look in later...Cheers Barry
    Not a Mk3 roll just a Mk2a (same bun/roll) with pure white in the highlights...I see a clear difference jlm on my cheap monitor.


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    Re: Fun with the Sony A7 and A7r series

    The pure white looks very different but I have too agree the hot spot still looks blown to me, not that it would have mattered in real life but since you asked
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    One stop lover and the white plate drowns in noise.
    Exposure for the highlights. Spot metering, small spot. Then let the darks fall where they fall.

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    Table and plate look allright to me. Just shuffle the highlight slider, may be locally, to the left and you're all set.
    (Less is a lot more work)
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    Barry, are you overexposing your buns again?
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    Re: Fun with the Sony A7 and A7r series

    A7r with 55 1.8
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    Re: Fun with the Sony A7 and A7r series

    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Haines View Post
    Boy oh boy!...You workshop members are hard to please.
    SAME EXPOSURE...But improved highlight detail raw processing.
    (Yes, I had to start all over again with the Mk2 version...No requests this is the final version as I have a busy day ahead looking after my parents).
    Cheers Barry

    PS. If that still looks overexposed by a stop, please recalibrate your monitor as mine was done only yesterday.
    Barry,

    Forgive me if I refrain from commenting on your buns,

    However, your Mk2 rendering shows detail in the highlights on my calibrated monitor. Looks fine.

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    No rolls but rolling.....

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    I think both works with a + for the color version.

    The image doesn't show color contrasts that would make the choice obvious, but soft brownie warm tones, hence the B&W door is open.

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    Apologies for not coming back sooner, I had a lot to sort out yesterday with my parents.
    Oh my, what a lot of assumptions, all very interesting and I do welcome feedback and comments as where would we be without them! So thank you one and all.
    (Particularly thought yours was funny Doug... “Barry, are you overexposing your buns again? ROTFL” Nice one, how I chuckled my friend )
    First of all this was never meant to be a serious image, it was just a bit of ongoing friendly fun teasing banter between Michiel and myself + anybody else that wanted to join in, his straw rolls and my bread roll.

    Thank you Leigh, nice to know that somebody elses monitor agrees with mine.

    First up comes a comment from jlm...”overexposed about a stop”. No explanation or supporting evidence just a fairly bluntly put message.
    Then I came up with Roll Mk2 as I did feel it could have been better processed in the highlights to bring out the detail further - But still using the same “EXPOSED” DNG file, this was also met with more of the same non supporting evidence from jlm ....”definitely shows more detail in the hot spot of the bun, but i could use even more. not so much a monitor calibration as blown highlights. (I use a well calibrated Eizo CG 241, by the way)”.
    Well now it seems that I have not only over exposed by about a stop, I have also blown out the highlights as well! Oh and I must be wrong because I’m not using a Eizo CG 241!
    This frankly just isn’t true at all! As I have never shared with you the original files for you to play with - I do not have an Eizo monitor but I can still read and work a histogram.

    For those that can even be bothered (and frankly why should you! :sleep006::sleep006::sleep006, please see my Flickr photostream, for histogram supporting evidence of NON blown highlights. http:[email protected]/
    Input ARW/DNG file (i.e. As Shot – ACR default setting – Untouched straight from the camera) which I worked from + The Output file Roll Mk2 with grey/white frame removed together with the white text so as not to confuse the histogram reading.

    jlm...Talking of blown highlights, I will just add that I think your criticism comes a little bit hard for me to swallow when you yourself upload an A7R image to GetDPI like this, Dsc0095web - GetDPI Image Gallery
    It will be interesting to see if you leave it there for others to see or simply remove/replace it...I think the saying goes something like this “People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones”. Although mine wasn’t burnt out and yours is most definitely.


    G43...”One stop lover and the white plate drowns in noise”....The discussion was about the exposure, not the noise, I do hope that was a typo “One stop lover” otherwise I do find that a little offensive. The noise in this particular instance has absolutely nothing to do with a badly exposed image in the first place because it wasn’t! It’s solely to do with the post processing that I applied deliberately later on by blending a B&W image Nik SE2 (Preset 024 Full contrast and structure to be precise – A highly grainy preset indeed) with the original coloured image and then re-saturating with vibrance to get a particular effect that I was after.
    I agree entirely with “Exposure for the highlights. Spot metering, small spot. Then let the darks fall where they fall.” That is what I do but your assumption that the noise came from the bad exposure in the first place was simply wrong in this particular instance, it’s entirely due to the Nik SE2 preset.

    BTW - UK Supermarket rolls are notorious for being well browned off on the top, yet quite anaemic on the sides and underneath as anybody will tell you here in the UK.

    Werner I much prefer the B&W image again...Cheers Barry

    PS. I’m off to Devon in a little while, so I won’t be replying until later on.
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    Barry, as they say in Holland; it is all a storm in a glass of water.
    The photo did stimulate my apetite, so it must be good.

    Here's some fresh air from Italy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michiel Schierbeek View Post
    Barry, as they say in Holland; it is all a storm in a glass of water.
    The photo did stimulate my apetite, so it must be good.

    Here's some fresh air from Italy.

    I totally agree, lets move on (no more rolls of any description) I'm off to Devon to take some snaps...Nice shot...Cheers Barry

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    Thought that might bring a smile or two, Barry.

    Hoping your parents are well!
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    G43...”One stop lover and the white plate drowns in noise”....The discussion was about the exposure, not the noise, I do hope that was a typo “One stop lover” otherwise I do find that a little offensive. The noise in this particular instance has absolutely nothing to do with a badly exposed image in the first place because it wasn’t! It’s solely to do with the post processing that I applied deliberately later on by blending a B&W image Nik SE2 (Preset 024 Full contrast and structure to be precise – A highly grainy preset indeed) with the original coloured image and then re-saturating with vibrance to get a particular effect that I was after.
    I agree entirely with “Exposure for the highlights. Spot metering, small spot. Then let the darks fall where they fall.” That is what I do but your assumption that the noise came from the bad exposure in the first place was simply wrong in this particular instance, it’s entirely due to the Nik SE2 preset.
    Did not want to offence you Barry. Sorry if I did

    It's difficult to distinguish between eventual less optimal exposure and the outcome of preset filters. I did not catch the image was processed and applied preset filters.

    I like the tone in the image you've chosen BTW.
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    for god's sake barry, take it as my own personal view, not a negative criticism of your abilities. and who cares if an image has 100% non-blown highlights.
    can't believe you went to the trouble to wade through my images to counter attack, and i only mentioned the monitor i use because you brought it up

    most on the forum welcome criticism and comment; I will refrain from any further comments on your work

    and for all to see and comment on, a shot from the first days i had the A7r!


    my comments: wish the focus had been on the red cup with more depth of field, color balance seems a bit off, too much dynamic range to not blow out the wall, but it may have been better if not over exposed one stop and the shadows brought up
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    A7 + Tamron 28-75mm f2.8

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    There appears to be a disturbing absence of fresh bread in this image, although I do perceive the presence of crumbs, bottom left.Tell the truth jlm; did you eat the roll? Did you?
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    actually the shot was an homage to Guy and his need for espresso; and yes those are toast crumbs!

    the morning light was pretty warm, so maybe the color balance is ok
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    I need a cup now. Lol

    I go through this thread everyday and I am amazed at the images you folks are posting. I don't comment as often as I should on the great work but I truly am impressed and also I love the participation you all are involved in. BTW constructive criticism is good it really helps you learn even if you can't always pull a image off yourself sometimes that does not mean your opinions are invalid. Not in the least, sometimes I'm a much better director of shooting than actually doing it myself. Its unfortunate for me sometimes I'm just not out there enough working on my personal work, so I'm jealous you all get to go out and have fun shooting and I enjoy very much what you all post. Remember for most members here this is about fun not making money like I have to do to make a living which is not always fun. LOL
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    so I'm jealous you all get to go out and have fun shooting and I enjoy very much what you all post. Remember for most members here this is about fun not making money like I have to do to make a living which is not always fun. LOL
    I feel for you Guy... Every time I see your shots of all those catwalk models you get to work with!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve P. View Post
    I feel for you Guy... Every time I see your shots of all those catwalk models you get to work with!

    LOL. Yea that job is a bitch, ROTFLMAO
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    ROTFLMAO means.....? Whatta page...tempest in a teapot over a bun and then extra-terrestrial code...maybe?
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    Rolling On The Floor Laughing My sAs Off.

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    Thought that might bring a smile or two, Barry.

    Hoping your parents are well!
    It did
    Many thanks for asking Doug, They seem to be getting on OK with all the help that they are receiving...Cheers Barry


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    Let's go to far away places......

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    Really nice picture Michiel, and my other hobby is steam trains so it touches a string there as well.

    Where was this, on the Veluwe between Apeldoorn and Dieren?

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    Really nice picture Michiel, and my other hobby is steam trains so it touches a string there as well.

    Where was this, on the Veluwe between Apeldoorn and Dieren?
    This is a small running museum line in Hoedekenskerke on Zuid Beveland near your country
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    This is a small running museum line in Hoedekenskerke on Zuid Beveland near your country
    Ah, I know where that is, the line between Goes and Borssele. Until about 25 years ago I was a driver on a colleague museum steam line between Haaksbergen and Boekelo in the Eastern part of the Netherlands. One year for a special event I even drove the Goes - Borssele line with one of our engines that you can see in this picture:

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    Just a couple from a walk around Clerkenwell in London - showing off how good the little Leica C-Summicron 40 is on the A7.



    BTW, I love the resolving power of both the lens and the sensor, you can see through the window a couple quite clearly staring at me like I am from another planet.

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