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    Photography is all about experimentation and without it you will never learn art.

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    Thanks Guy for the riminder! Just bought it as well. Cheap!
    The other one comes right up in ACR lens profiles itself and this one under filters in PS.

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    Yes right under the filter column. Works very well too
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    Re: Fun with the Sony A7 and A7r series

    Does PT lens provide a better profile than you can manually do in Lightroom using the distortion correction tools?

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    Mustache distortion is hard and has no special dedicated slider so you need a profile.
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    Spot the black sheep ...



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    Worked hard on this one during the workshop good practice in HDR and PP in PS


    This does not sound to good Michiel, hope you get the cam back in time (want to see shots from NYC from you) and we will not be hit by this defect!
    With all due respect I feel this post is "not safe for work" and thus shouldn't have been made in thread that is meant for general public viewing and is not marked as "not safe for work". I feel consideration should be given to others, what kind of situation / hot seat post like this one could land person that innocently opened page while at work or while children are around, and respect that people have a right not to be exposed to nudity in public without agreeing to it. That is why marking threads as NSFW and not posting NSFW content in threads that are not marked as such has been widely accepted and acknowledged as common 'net courtesy. Not respecting that is rude. Thus due to all of this I would appreciate if picture in this post is at least not posted in manner that automatically displays it and is clearly marked as NSFW, if not removed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZoranC View Post
    With all due respect I feel this post is "not safe for work" and thus shouldn't have been made in thread that is meant for general public viewing and is not marked as "not safe for work". I feel consideration should be given to others, what kind of situation / hot seat post like this one could land person that innocently opened page while at work or while children are around, and respect that people have a right not to be exposed to nudity in public without agreeing to it. That is why marking threads as NSFW and not posting NSFW content in threads that are not marked as such has been widely accepted and acknowledged as common 'net courtesy. Not respecting that is rude. Thus due to all of this I would appreciate if picture in this post is at least not posted in manner that automatically displays it and is clearly marked as NSFW, if not removed.
    I don't know if that is to be taken serious, if yes:

    For sure, i did not want to offend someone with this post. I think that should be clear to everyone.

    IMO the pic is inoffensive. Its public everyday life at least where i live.

    It shows a calendar hanging on a wall in a public garage, people come and bring their cars to get repaired and bring their kids. During the shooting with all garage doors wide open kids where playing in the yard...
    Step outside and look at the commercials everywhere or switch on TV...
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    Quote Originally Posted by W.Utsch View Post
    I don't know if that is to be taken serious, if yes:

    For sure, i did not want to offend someone with this post. I think that should be clear to everyone.

    IMO the pic is inoffensive. Its public everyday life at least where i live.

    It shows a calendar hanging on a wall in a public garage, people come and bring their cars to get repaired and bring their kids. During the shooting with all garage doors wide open kids where playing in the yard...
    Step outside and look at the commercials everywhere or switch on TV...
    Yes, this is to be taken seriously. Did it sound like I was joking?

    If you are not capable of realizing that what might be fine for you in your corner of the world is not fine everywhere (I don't need to look around me to know that in United States bare breasts are not being shown in public commercials / TV) then at least you should realize you are not noob on the net, that you do know what NSFW (not safe for work) netiquette says and why, and respect that. Thank you in advance!

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    Sorry, Zoran!

    I dont shoot normally stuff that would offend somebody and will not post it.

    This was just coincidence on location and i did not think about it when posting.

    I don't live on an island, i know the world and the net (lived for 17 years in California).
    It is OK if you complain and i can take critics but you should not write about what i am capable......or not.
    If you felt insulted, again sorry, but do not the same then.


    Best regards
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    PS: Don't want to spread this but i would like to hear others opinion on this matter and my posted pic.

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    Zoran - Would you object as vociferously to, say, a poster of a topless Richard Gere by Gorman as you do to this rather common sight in every mechanic's garage in all corners of the world. Just want to know how you feel about the ubiquitous double standard. Wow - ubiquitous and vociferous in the same post. I'm impressed.
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    Re: Fun with the Sony A7 and A7r series

    Quote Originally Posted by W.Utsch View Post
    Sorry, Zoran!

    I dont shoot normally stuff that would offend somebody and will not post it.

    This was just coincidence on location and i did not think about it when posting.

    I don't live on an island, i know the world and the net (lived for 17 years in California).
    It is OK if you complain and i can take critics but you should not write about what i am capable......or not.
    If you felt insulted, again sorry, but do not the same then.


    Best regards
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    PS: Don't want to spread this but i would like to hear others opinion on this matter and my posted pic.
    I think it is a bit funny, maybe even ironic.

    A "Not Safe For Work" image shown in a … place of work

    So, I guess it depends on where you work.

    All that aside, I find the whole concept of "NSFW" to be a little odd. If you are at work, why are you wasting time looking at photography sites?

    In a way, ALL non-work related web cruising is "NSFW" … because technically, you are screwing off on company time.

    For shame, for shame.

    Now stop reading this nonsense, and get back to work

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    Quote Originally Posted by W.Utsch View Post
    PS: Don't want to spread this but i would like to hear others opinion on this matter and my posted pic.
    Good morning Ladies and Gents,
    Hi Werner,

    by no means I find this picture offensive. Not a sausage!

    Honestly Zoran, when I read your post, I seriously thought you were joking, and only by reading further it became clear that you mean it.

    Personally, what I do find offensive in deed is a certain aggressive political correctness that spreads wherever I look.

    Where does all this end then?

    Bare legs no good either, or is this dependant on how much legs can be seen? Bare breasts no good, or dependant whether you can see nipples? Bare face no good until you can see nothing but two eyes anymore, because otherwise it is not accepted in other parts of the world, and we all have to be political correct?

    Here is a compromise Werner, cover the nipples with some strawberries. Just kidding of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fotografz View Post
    A "Not Safe For Work" image shown in a … place of work
    Yesssss!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Georg Baumann View Post

    Personally, what I do find offensive in deed is a certain aggressive political correctness that spreads wherever I look.

    Where does all this end then?
    Exactly!
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    Dirty window with scratches.

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    I wouldn't open a photography forum in a public area, workplace or otherwise, without first taking note of the people around me. I think taking personal responsibility for one's actions is eminently preferable to expecting someone else to do it for you. Common sense goes a long way.
    As to the photograph itself, it is a depiction to be found in industrial workplaces all over the western world and will be familiar to just about anyone who's ever taken a car in for repair or service. Whether the calendar image itself is artistic or merely exploitative is a different debate, and one which can usefully be stimulated by photographs such as Werner's.
    Werner, I hope you won't allow your future contributions to be self-censored out of consideration for the misplaced sensibilities of others. I for one enjoy your work here very much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michiel Schierbeek View Post
    Dirty window with scratches.
    Throw that lense away, it is scratched beyond repair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by W.Utsch View Post
    Sorry, Zoran!

    I dont shoot normally stuff that would offend somebody and will not post it.
    So, the shots you don't post are the shots you shoot not normally.

    A bit of humor because a discussion about political correctness will not be very fruitful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michiel Schierbeek View Post
    Dirty window with scratches.

    Michiel...I'm not so sure if that "Bust" in the window is PC or not?
    or whether or not Bart's 100 naked sheep and one naked dog in a field is really safe for public viewing.
    So I will refrain from commenting on your Garage/Calendar shot Werner as in fear of any reprisals.
    But then who am I to judge when I have seemingly over exposed my buns (NSTE) not safe to eat.

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    "Garage Classic, Good For Work"




    DSC08877_HDR-BW-sharp-2-536.jpg von -W.Utsch-

    Sorry guys, just had to do that.
    Unfortunately it is not BW anymore.
    I made a big red sticker an will bring that over to Primos Garage, hope they don't throw me out of the door.
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    Re: Fun with the Sony A7 and A7r series

    You gotta be kiddin me!

    Well, I take offence on all the hidden and unsolicited advertising in the picture, please cover details of company names, phone number, address etc. accordingly.

    Good Lord....

    P.S. quick... she is still on page 50! LOL

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    In all fairness I did work in a maintenance shop in my youth in USA and pictures (even in the Men's locker room/ bathroom) were forbidden except if they were posted inside your locked locker. They couldn't be readily seen by anyone to include the cleaning crew just in case someone was offended by seeing a lady in a bathing suit much less nude in anyway.

    I know it's quite a bit different in the parts of Europe I've been to where you can see it on regular TV. Unfortunately people are more apt to sue for money before talking to a business to correct an issue in USA. So with that being the case people tend to err more on the side of caution - especially with the Internet and people getting fired for voicing their opinions on their personal social media pages. I think it's all just a cultural difference though.
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    Re: Fun with the Sony A7 and A7r series

    Here's a few more from the safari. Animals were taken with the Contax 180/2.8 FLE. Landscapes were with the Sony 55 FE and the Rokinon 14.

    untitled-8.jpg by HiredArm, on Flickr

    untitled-2.jpg by HiredArm, on Flickr

    untitled-3.jpg by HiredArm, on Flickr

    untitled-4.jpg by HiredArm, on Flickr

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    Time for reflection...Times change together with attitudes...Barry


    The poignant hangman’s handle and trapdoor.





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    Back to normal nothing offensive (i hope so):
    My newest acquisition: Got a very good deal on this lens about 1/2 the regular price.


    "New Kid On The Block"





    DSC05183.jpg by W.Utsch, on Flickr

    And a first test shot with it. Funny, in some way it fits to the previous discussion.



    "Caution"




    DSC09608.jpg by W.Utsch, on Flickr
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    Quote Originally Posted by W.Utsch View Post
    Back to normal nothing offensive (i hope so):
    My newest acquisition: Got a very good deal on this lens about 1/2 the regular price.
    Werner, I didn't personally see anything offensive.
    But I must admit I'm feeling just a wee bit envious .
    Congratulations on getting your fast 135mm (B4 me)
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    Congrats on your new 135/1.8, Werner! I rented that when I was shooting the a99 and it's one special piece of glass. I've thought about looking for one for the a7r too, but it's HUGE and wondered how it would feel in hand, especially since you need to add the adapter. Looks pretty darn nice attached to your a7r though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by W.Utsch View Post
    "New Kid On The Block" And a first test shot with it. Funny, in some way it fits to the previous discussion.
    Congrats Werner:

    I've always loved that lens. I find it a great (but very heavy) walk-around lens for my A850. It makes anything you shoot look good. I also really like it as a portrait lens but try to only use it on people under 40 years old. It's just too sharp for folks as old as me! I think I've alienated several sisters-in-law using it in the past.

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    Michiel...I'm not so sure if that "Bust" in the window is PC or not?
    or whether or not Bart's 100 naked sheep and one naked dog in a field is really safe for public viewing.
    So I will refrain from commenting on your Garage/Calendar shot Werner as in fear of any reprisals.
    But then who am I to judge when I have seemingly over exposed my buns (NSTE) not safe to eat.

    All I do know is that I am retired and I am enjoying my crisps
    You know why I never go to England anymore; to many tabloids hanging around in your country
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    Thanks all!
    The 135 is big and even more heavy. But i think such a lens has to be (and can only be) big and heavy.
    Though it handles surprisingly good on the A7R. The AF is very good and accurate.

    As a very good review, i second 100%, i point you to phillipreeve.net
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    Congrats Werner!

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    Big congrats Werner

    http://www.photozone.de/sonyalphaff/500-zeiss_135_18ff

    I think Photozone says it all. I can count on two or three fingers how many lenses ever got that high rating from those morning sour guys ;-)
    Certainly a lens I am considering. I just got the nice and awesome good Contax G90 2.8 that completes my set from 21 to 90. The 135 mm misses.
    I will not ask how much you paid, but perhaps you would tell where to look for it?
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    'wooden lobster buoy, study 4' - a7r / FE 55

    Here in Maine, the lobster fishery is king. Today, lobster traps and buoys are all produced from 'modern' materials. Back in the day, this stuff was made from wood. I recently found six of these old, original wooden buoys in a barn in Downeast (way 'up' the coast) Maine. These were all hand-carved/shaped by the fisherman that used them, and then were painted with his specific color combination. They would often carve in a set of numbers or initials to help further identify them. The color coding is still used today to identify a lobsterman's traps. These old buoys are fascinating to look at, for me anyway. It's a glimpse into the past. Here's one of the six images I made in the series.

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    Congrats Werner!

    The 135 is an outstanding piece of beauty and a lot of fun to work with because it can get pretty close to an object as well. I like it the most from my setup because of it's versatility. I imagine it must feel enormous on an A7R.
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    Nice to be in the comfort zone where the lens out-resolves the sensor, as in this case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwood View Post
    'wooden lobster buoy, study 4' - a7r / FE 55
    Love you kept the highlights textured and let the shadows block. That's the way we see. Very good control of the exposure.
    Details, contrast almost Foveon like... however this image is incredible small.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G43 View Post
    Love you kept the highlights textured and let the shadows block. That's the way we see. Very good control of the exposure.
    Details, contrast almost Foveon like... however this image is incredible small.
    here's a version that's a bit larger...

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    Thanks .. still the same answer.

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    Until you make it that large that the eye goes to the slightly and forgivable blown highlights rather than the object that I suppose is the colored wood hammer hanging there?
    Our eyes are attracted to highlights or and contrast. So the whatever is the object our eyes are lead to that. That better not be in a corner of an image as it takes our attention straight out beyond the broader frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michiel Schierbeek View Post
    You know why I never go to England anymore; to many tabloids hanging around in your country
    Michiel...You got me - I can't argue with that!
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    Werner...looking forward to seeing some crazy f1.8 boke
    Phillip is a great photographer IMHO he is always happy to help others.
    It was his work with the 58mm f1.2 Rokkor that made me decide to get one.

    Doug...Small or large nice pic mate, I like the dual toning.

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    Re: Fun with the Sony A7 and A7r series

    Quote Originally Posted by HiredArm View Post
    Here's a few more from the safari. Animals were taken with the Contax 180/2.8 FLE. Landscapes were with the Sony 55 FE and the Rokinon 14.

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    Even though I am a reptile enthusiast and the croc should be my pick, I have to go with those river and falls shots. Great color and exciting vista. Must have been something to see in person.

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    I lived for 17 years in California
    Then you are very well aware of the culture of United States that you very well know many members here are from and thus have even less excuse for your disrepect.

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    It is OK if you complain and i can take critics but you should not write about what i am capable......or not.
    You are obviously not capable of respecting others because picture in question is still fully displayed even after you have been asked to respect common courtesy rule.

    Quote Originally Posted by W.Utsch View Post
    PS: Don't want to spread this but i would like to hear others opinion on this matter and my posted pic.
    You don't want to spread this but then incite others for "popular vote" on it? Funny. In any case respecting netiquette / others is not open for "who is Mr Popularity" vote.

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    Re: Fun with the Sony A7 and A7r series

    Quote Originally Posted by pfigen View Post
    Zoran - Would you object as vociferously to, say, a poster of a topless Richard Gere by Gorman as you do to this rather common sight in every mechanic's garage in all corners of the world. Just want to know how you feel about the ubiquitous double standard.
    pfigen,

    You state you live in Culver City, California. If that is correct then:

    1. You should be very well aware this is _not_ a rather common sight in _every_ mechanic's garage in _all_ corners of the world. For start visit several car dealerships that are in your neighborhood and ask their Human Resources how much of a tolerance they have for pictures like that one hanging in their mechanics' workplaces (they will all say it is zero per their policies) and what are the consequences of breaking that policy (they will all tell you employment termination). Report back what you found.

    2. You should be very well aware of what culture here is / laws are. If you want to pretend to be dumb here please try same experiment elsewhere by posting picture of woman with naked breasts in public visible place, see how that will fly and will they care about your "ubiquitous double standard" ramblings.

    Quote Originally Posted by pfigen View Post
    Wow - ubiquitous and vociferous in the same post. I'm impressed.
    ... and I am not impressed, quite the opposite, because it is rather common that people reach for "big words" as a crutch whenever what they are saying is rather ... empty?

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    Re: Fun with the Sony A7 and A7r series

    TBH, I find it somewhat ironic that there's a need to filter as NSFW a photo of a workplace ...

    However, I do understand the desire not to have nudity, or I guess pictures of pictures of nudity, pop up unexpectedly if viewing in a public place. That said, I do hope we're past Puritan sensibilities as far as photography generally is concerned.
    Ylem ...

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    That said, I do hope we're past Puritan sensibilities as far as photography generally is concerned.
    This has nothing to do with "Puritan sensibilities" (whatever is that supposed to mean). I myself am not a "Puritan" but I still find this post inappropriate. It has nothing to do with fact it was a female body, I am not offended when I see one, but with fact that, I firmly believe, common decency and courtesy were disrespected when this post was made.

    Common decency and courtesy say one shouldn't force onto public display of what one knows general public shouldn't be exposed to without their consent. That was not respected.

    Common net decency and courtesy say one shouldn't post NSFW content in general sections, especially not when there is no NSFW warning that gives chance to those that don't want to be exposed to it avoid it. That was not respected.

    Common decency and courtesy say one should respect local culture. Poster did live 17 years in US / California, knows this is mainly US board and knows there are members from California and thus he can't claim ignorance, he is very familiar with local culture. Thus he didn't respect local culture either.

    It's not about "puritanism". It is about being disrespected.
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    "Knot"




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    "Jewish Cemetery - Heiliger Sand, Worms, Germany"




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    A very special place of grace and peace in my native town of Worms.
    Take a stroll there and think!
    The origin of this cemetery is the year 1076.
    We can be lucky today that it was not disgraced by the Nazis.
    For more information: Jewish Cemetery, Worms - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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