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Thread: Fun with the Sony A7 Series Cameras( all of them)

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    The 24-70 is in everyday use much better than its reputation or as some internet tests would suggest.

    On the positive side is its versatility and convenience and one should not underestimate these two. The zoom range ist very useful, AF and OSS are working with no problems. The lens is in 90% of its range very sharp almost around the whole frame. Micro contrast is very good.

    But it is a zoom lens and that means some sort of compromise. It can not be as good as premium primes.

    The corners at 24mm never get perfect even stopped down. But do you really ALWAYS need perfect sharpness in the very corners? My answer is: NO, you may sometimes need sharp corners, architecture or some landscape shots come to mind. And only when you want to print these very big.

    On the long end 70mm it is better to stop down a little.
    Besides the extremes 24 and 70 the lens is very good with a peak around 40-50mm.
    The weakest part of the glass is it's distortion which is very strong over the whole range. A compromise to build the lens relatively small and light. The distortion gets easily corrected in cam with Jpegs or with the LR profile. The same applies to some CA's that can occur.
    With the A7R and 36mp i see no problem or image degradation with these software corrections. Even with my excellent Distagon 21/2.8 i have to correct distortion when straight lines are important for the composition.
    I can not speak for the 7 or the 7s. I think it will be no problem with these either as almost all MFT lenses are build with software correction in mind.

    Bokeh is of course not the strong part of the lens.

    So, when would i use it? Every time when i can take only one (or two) lens to the location, size and weight are matters.
    When not? For very critical work and when i can take 3 or 4 primes to the shooting and have time to change lenses. When i am looking for optimal bokeh, i would oc. not use the 24/70.

    I hope my few words could help.
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    Werner:
    Your words were precisely what I wanted to know. Thank you for the time you took composing them.

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    'childhood memories of summer by the sea' - a7r / Samyang 14/2.8

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    John, you are very welcome!

    dwood: Thats a great shot and very good conversion. The Samyang seems to be very good.

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    More wine:


    "Pinot Blanc"




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    dwood: Thats a great shot and very good conversion. The Samyang seems to be very good.
    Thanks, Werner! The Samyang has its issues but is generally pretty impressive. And, relative to other glass, it was almost free.

    BTW, if you post many more of these ZA 135/1.8 shots, you're gonna cost me money! Please stop
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    Re: Fun with the Sony A7 and A7r series

    This thread needs more pictures

    I may already have posted this in color but I recently purchased a new b&W conversion software (Tonality) and was playing with it last night. I was going for an olde time film noir look that almost resembles a painting rather than the original photo.

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    Re: Fun with the Sony A7 and A7r series

    Quote Originally Posted by JMaher View Post
    This thread needs more pictures

    I may already have posted this in color but I recently purchased a new b&W conversion software (Tonality) and was playing with it last night. I was going for an olde time film noir look that was almost resembles a painting rather than the original photo.
    Jim.....keep us posted on the new software. I will be curious to see if it offers anything beyond SEP2. I find that program to be pretty inclusive of all my needs.

    I recently got back into the B&W wet darkroom and became aware of all the digital tools available to us that I perhaps take for granted.

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    Re: Fun with the Sony A7 and A7r series

    Okay wanted to show how the 17mm works with the canon 1.4 Extender which end of day i am pretty dang impressed at the quality of it. All of these are now 24mm equivalents with the ND 1.8 filter on . I did adjust the WB to neutral than dropped the kelvin to taste. This is a good way not to screw up all the colors WB first than just adjust the Kelvin to the warmth you like or coolness you like. I processed these in C1 beta 8. Don't tell anyone. LOL

    All of these are 1 second or longer around F8 or F11. All have rise or fall and all have some tilt to it. I was out to make use of the movements that was my end goal.







    This one shot right into the sun

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    One more this is about a 4 second exposure and that bird did a okay job of holding still. You know I had to bribe him with a fish. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    I processed these in C1 beta 8. Don't tell anyone. LOL
    C18 Beta? You didn't think we we're gonna let this one slip by, did you? I've been doing my initial RAW conversions in C1P7 now for the last month and then sending TIFF's over to LR5 for other minor tweaks, b&w conversions, cataloging, and printing. Please at least tell us that C18 has added some FE lens profiles. And any other stuff you can hint at would be great. Screw the nondisclosure agreement BTW, those pics look great!

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    Re: Fun with the Sony A7 and A7r series

    nothing with profiles yet
    Photography is all about experimentation and without it you will never learn art.

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    no profiles = suck

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    Re: Fun with the Sony A7 and A7r series

    Rich,
    I don't think Tonality does any thing new but I haven't really used the competition in a while and then only as a test. Tonality does do layers with local adjustment brushes which I found to work well.

    Another example from my playing around with it.

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    'chained to the sea floor' - a7r / FE 70-200

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    Re: Fun with the Sony A7 and A7r series

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    Rich,
    I don't think Tonality does any thing new but I haven't really used the competition in a while and then only as a test. Tonality does do layers with local adjustment brushes which I found to work well.

    Another example from my playing around with it.

    Jim

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    Jim.....I like this one.....very nice.

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    Re: Fun with the Sony A7 and A7r series

    Another capture with the A7r/Contax 35/1.4.

    Wide open.....uncropped....with some minor adjustments (WB, levels)

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    "Autumn Leaf"




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    Re: Fun with the Sony A7 and A7r series

    Canon 17mm TSE at F8

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    Re: Fun with the Sony A7 and A7r series

    Very very very tough shot to pull off a sensor. With the huge DR of the Sony sensor this was handled very well. Processed this in LR and shot with the Canon 17mm with Canon extender so in effect a 24mm TSE lens. Has rise and fall and tilt with it as well but i am directly into the sun. Pretty amazing to pull this off without a ton of flare with a ND glass 1.8 filter on no less. Shot at F/14 for 1.6 seconds. Rare i stop down this far but was trying to slow the water but keep the birds sharp.

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    Re: Fun with the Sony A7 and A7r series

    nice, Barry...black, white, red and blue

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    nice, Barry...black, white, red and blue
    Many thanks Doug.



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    Re: Fun with the Sony A7 and A7r series

    FYI folks. Thought this might be of interest for Sony folks. I will be reviewing the new Cambo Aptus view camera with my A7r. Not sure what lenses they are sending but should be a interest for many I hope.
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    Re: Fun with the Sony A7 and A7r series

    Sounds like a good opportunity to put a $9k Rodie on a $2k Sony ...

    (Btw, full disclosure, I do like my A7r but not as much as my Alpa/IQ260/Rodies)
    Ylem ...

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    My thinking too Graham.
    Photography is all about experimentation and without it you will never learn art.

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    Re: Fun with the Sony A7 and A7r series

    More wine:
    From the "Kloster Eberbach" in the Rheingau wine region.
    If you like more information:
    Eberbach Abbey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    "Wine Press From The 17th Century"




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    Re: Fun with the Sony A7 and A7r series

    Werner:

    nice one; definitely Umberto Eco territory.

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    Thanks!
    Yes, forgot that, the "Name of the Rose" was filmed there.

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    This is wonderful, Barry!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlm View Post
    Werner:

    nice one; definitely Umberto Eco territory.
    +1

    Love the tones and light. Beautiful.
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    This is wonderful, Barry!
    Many thanks Godfrey

    Re: Werner's "Wine Press From The 17th Century" Love the tones and light. Beautiful......Agree 100%, a lovely image indeed and well executed. .


    A bit embarrassed to enter my effort of the day after Werner's.
    Spent ages trying to make a (BLENCOMO) silk purse out of a sow's ear and still ended up with a sow's ear!



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    Re: Fun with the Sony A7 and A7r series

    Quote Originally Posted by W.Utsch View Post
    More wine:
    From the "Kloster Eberbach" in the Rheingau wine region.
    "Wine Press From The 17th Century"

    ...maleus maleficarum was my spontaneous thought, then I saw the wine barrels...

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    Scenes from Mount Greylock, MA









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    Re: Fun with the Sony A7 and A7r series

    With the 55 and fill light from a Godox 360.
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    Thanks for the likes and compliments for the "Wein Press" shot.

    We where quite lucky with our visit at the Cloister because the light was beautiful. It was very harsh outside but inside ( normally very dark) it was just perfect.

    BTW i carried only two lenses in a smallish bag: The 24/70 and the 135/1.8.
    The 24/70 was the right choice: OSS was helpful with the indoor shots and smaller apertures for more DOF. The f-range is very handy....

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    That's not a sow's ear Barry, excellent toning and light.
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    That's not a sow's ear Barry, excellent toning and light.
    Many thanks Pieter, most appreciated...Having done two sow's ear in a row (mirrored garden and steam train), I was beginning to think I was on a downhill slope
    Have likewise been enjoying your work of late also on the other Sony thread...Cheers Barry
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    Re: Fun with the Sony A7 and A7r series

    Barry; Strange piece of glass you used for 'The garden tourist'!

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    Barry; Strange piece of glass you used for 'The garden tourist'!
    Michiel...I think the image is probably a little confusing without at least some kind of explanation (verbally and visually).
    It was taken yesterday at a stately home garden here in Cornwall...In the garden itself stood a 3 sided mirror obelisk about 10ft tall.
    The mirrors comprised of a regular mirror on one side a convex and concave mirror on the other 2 sides.
    Needless to say that the convex mirror exaggerated the midriff somewhat, this explains why my non smiling (Garden Tourist) wife was rather hesitant to pose for me.
    In other words it wasnít very flattering to the vanity of the female persuasion...To be honest the convex mirror hasnít exactly done my 32 inch waist any favours either!





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    I had a premonition that the lady acting as a garden tourist could coincidental be your wife.

    My camera is still gone. Hope it will be back in time.
    I have been posting some images in between in the Other cameras-Ricoh GXR thread, but nobody is looking
    Only the best sensor is good enough or brand loyalty keeps my friends away from the outskirts of this forum

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    Ahh,...there you are!
    I was never looking at the Ricoh thread.

    Just added the likes.....
    Very good shots with 21/1.8

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michiel Schierbeek View Post
    I had a premonition that the lady acting as a garden tourist could coincidental be your wife.

    My camera is still gone. Hope it will be back in time.
    I have been posting some images in between in the Other cameras-Ricoh GXR thread, but nobody is looking
    Only the best sensor is good enough or brand loyalty keeps my friends away from the outskirts of this forum
    Your premonition/hunch was right it's an awful picture of her and she still hates me for uploading it - But I have my model release form (M. cert) from 35 years ago, so it was to late for her to stop me!
    Hopefully you should get your camera back before you go to NYC when you pick up your 14mm lens (or possibly you could just hire and tryout the A7S on arrival).
    You have so many great A7R images sitting on Flickr that I don't think you have shown yet in this thread, they should hopefully tide you over until it returns.
    Had no idea that you were posting images elsewhere, as I have no brand loyalty I will go and try and find them and give you a bit of support...Cheers Barry
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    Re: Fun with the Sony A7 and A7r series

    Thanks Gentle Men

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    'sunset at Two Lights' - a7r / FE 70-200

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    Taken earlier today along the Cornish SW coast path.


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    Another image taken along the Cornish SW coast path.



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    Re: Fun with the Sony A7 and A7r series

    Barry - Both very nice! The first one is lovely.

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